News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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nickys said:
And because some buyers don’t know any different. Things never change. We bought in 2010, did a tour at SSR to see the Bay Lake Tower model rooms, made a decision there and then. We had no idea there was a resale market.

There are probably more clued-up buyers now than back then, but they’re not the target audience of those DVC booths in the parks and resorts. It works!
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Obviously initial property sales are the goals…

But then they started this bizarre practice of gobbling up old points to price fix their own market

They could be faced with millions of unused points for quite awhile if the LONG NEEDED economic downturn takes hold.

Good. American companies love to preach “free market” on tv…and spend 99% of their time price gouging and crying for help to fix prices behind the scenes.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

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CastAStone said:
I think they’re just overloaded. And I think specifically raising OKW/SSR/AKV/BRV up to/past $200 halted sales on them FAR more than they planned.
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"Shocking!" - No one. Ever. The missteps within the company have infected DVD as well. Current price points are beyond ridiculous. The Hyatt designs at DVC prices are turning people off, I wonder why?
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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HauntedPirate said:
"Shocking!" - No one. Ever. The missteps within the company have infected DVD as well. Current price points are beyond ridiculous. The Hyatt designs at DVC prices are turning people off, I wonder why?
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Hyatt? I would say upper mid-level Marriott...sadly. The Riviera, while a nice hotel, was completely lacking the Disney Difference...and by that I do not mean "Characters"...It just lacked any sort of special... It was any nice hotel USA. Completely off-brand to my eye. I am still baffled at the idea of abandoning the Disney look and curated style for a chain hotel look... Baffling.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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CastAStone

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Bocabear said:
Hyatt? I would say upper mid-level Marriott...sadly. The Riviera, while a nice hotel, was completely lacking the Disney Difference...and by that I do not mean "Characters"...It just lacked any sort of special... It was any nice hotel USA. Completely off-brand to my eye. I am still baffled at the idea of abandoning the Disney look and curated style for a chain hotel look... Baffling.
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Riviera is Four Seasons level look and feel. Like every Disney Deluxe resort, the service level is Hilton Garden Inn. But the rooms, while styleless, are very nice, and fancy.
 
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fgmnt

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I will say that my family has held BCV for 20 years and there was an attempt at the upsell to a new Riviera contract a year ago, but the money does not make any sense at all like it did 20 years ago. And with the nature of timeshare sales, if you cant further hook in the people you already have, how well are you doing at bringing in new people?
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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The interior was nice...I would not go any farther then that. yes it was nicer than a Comfort Inn, or Holiday Inn... No it was not Four Seasons or Waldorf Astoria nice... the service level was as noted... Marriott Courtyard/ Hilton Garden Inn level. I did not find it "fancy"...I guess that is taste subjective, but it was nice... the Lobby etc felt soulless and disconnected. Poorly designed on the whole. We would never stay there again...
 
Disone

Disone

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CastAStone said:
Riviera is Four Seasons level look and feel. Like every Disney Deluxe resort, the service level is Hilton Garden Inn. But the rooms, while styleless, are very nice, and fancy.
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I cannot agree with this statement. IMO The four seasons Orlando is notably elevated several notches above what the Riviera is. While I don't know the time and place that the four seasons is trying to portray but as soon as you step in the lobby you feel like you've left Florida. The grounds are immaculate. The pools are stunning and the rooms completely out class Disney.

For me personally, the Riviera is more akin to a Hyatt, or a nice Marriott. I can absolutely agree on the second part. Very Hilton garden inn on a service level.
 
Naplesgolfer

Naplesgolfer

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CastAStone said:
Riviera is Four Seasons level look and feel. Like every Disney Deluxe resort, the service level is Hilton Garden Inn. But the rooms, while styleless, are very nice, and fancy.
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The rooms are very nice and large. But the common area's and the facade are mid level Marriott and too small. It is foolish and sad that Disney will never build a Wilderness lodge or Animal Kingdom lodge again. They no longer know what the Disney difference is or care.
 
aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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Naplesgolfer said:
The rooms are very nice and large. But the common area's and the facade are mid level Marriott and too small. It is foolish and sad that Disney will never build a Wilderness lodge or Animal Kingdom lodge again. They no longer know what the Disney difference is or care.
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This, and the fact they are slapping a giant modern city looking building at the poly on seven seas lagoon is the end of it.
 
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Skibum1970

Skibum1970

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Naplesgolfer said:
The rooms are very nice and large. But the common area's and the facade are mid level Marriott and too small. It is foolish and sad that Disney will never build a Wilderness lodge or Animal Kingdom lodge again. They no longer know what the Disney difference is or care.
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When we did our tour, the Studio seemed tiny. It just seems like the DVC studios at other resorts were larger. That may have just been perception, though.
 

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