'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[TP2000]

I owe you nothing, but if you want to ever try and get one from me in the future, send me a PM.

If you had tried to claim that I hung out with racists via PM, I would ask for that apology for your slander via PM.

You claimed I hung out with racists on an open thread. The apology for your lie and that slander should be delivered via the thread.

 

[Chi84]

I said what I said.

Who here has seen the movie?

I’m watching it right now! It’s just fair as far as I’m concerned. It’s definitely a beautiful film, but I can understand how some might think boxes were being checked.

That type of thing doesn’t bother me at all. Nor would it bother kids unless you teach them it should. (I am the parent of two children so at least have some experience in discussing them.) And while I agree that parents are ultimately responsible for raising their children, I’ve seen too many horrible examples of parenting to extol their virtues without question.

 

[Californian Elitist]

If you had tried to claim that I hung out with racists via PM, I would ask for that apology for your slander via PM.

You claimed I hung out with racists on an open thread. The apology for your lie and that slander should be delivered via the thread.

You can re-read what I wrote, if you want.

I told no lies, I slandered no one. You are purposefully misunderstanding it to try and get a fake, insincere apology from me. I’m not sorry for what I said. As someone who briefly lived in Orange County, I too likely mingled with racists and bigots.

Again, for the last time, I have nothing to apologize to you for. You’re wasting your time trying to get one from me. In the future, if you think I owe you one, send me a PM. You’ve done it before.

Anyways, the movie.

 

[BrianLo]

Again, these are issues you need to ask the parents. I am not a parent.

But if you are asking me as a childless adult, let's pretend that I am tasked with babysitting some children and am taking them to the movies. If the children are aged 6 and 8, I would not take them to a movie with an openly gay character in it. That is subject matter that should be handled by the parents when the parents want to discuss sexuality with their kids.

But if I am babysitting children who are aged 14 and 16, I would be far more comfortable taking them to a movie with an openly gay character in it. At that age, it's almost always healthy for them to see that type of thing in movies and media.

There is a giant difference between an 8 year old boy and a 14 year old boy. There is a chasm of difference between a 6 year old boy and a 16 year old boy. I don't blame parents one bit for knowing that instinctively and being cautious and purposeful of when they introduce certain concepts into their child's development.

I’m curious because obviously straight content can be broached in an age inappropriate manner, as can gay content.

But say we have a Disney movie that society has deemed age appropriate and Disney literally subs out the character model for the opposite sex; what to you makes that age inappropriate?

I’m not talking about middle America or other parents, but what do you think is the change? What specifically elevates the contents appropriateness by substituting a gender or sex?

My suspicion is honestly just because as you’ve pointed out it’s the broader disapproval of gay relationship that is still a good 15-20 years behind the curve of interracial marriage. Rather than an actual meaningful difference in true age appropriate content.

 

[TP2000]

You can re-read what I wrote, if if you want.

I do not mingle with racists and bigots. You have no power over me to say that I do.

 

[Chi84]

But say we have a Disney movie that society has deemed age appropriate and Disney literally subs out the character model for the opposite sex; what to you makes that age inappropriate?

As someone who has watched the movie, this is exactly what was done in Strange World.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I do not mingle with racists and bigots. You have no power over me to say that I do.

No, you just like making racist and bigoted comments, over and over and over again.

 

[LittleBuford]

I’m curious because obviously straight content can be broached in an age inappropriate manner, as can gay content.

But say we have a Disney movie that society has deemed age appropriate and Disney literally subs out the character model for the opposite sex; what to you makes that age inappropriate?

I’m not talking about middle America or other parents, but what do you think is the change? What specifically elevates the contents appropriateness by substituting a gender or sex?

My suspicion is honestly just because as you’ve pointed out it’s the broader disapproval of gay relationship that is still a good 15-20 years behind the curve of interracial marriage. Rather than an actual meaningful difference in true age appropriate content.

This is very astutely put.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Anyways, any other thoughts on the score?

 

[LittleBuford]

Anyways, any other thoughts on the score?

I’ll need to rewatch (or rehear!) it to pay proper attention.

 

[TP2000]

I’m curious because obviously straight content can be broached in an age inappropriate manner, as can gay content.

Yes. But every child already has the point of reference of a mother and father. They live with them every day. They know what that is.

But say we have a Disney movie that society has deemed age appropriate and Disney literally subs out the character model for the opposite sex; what to you makes that age inappropriate?
I’m not talking about middle America or other parents, but what do you think is the change? What specifically elevates the contents appropriateness by substituting a gender or sex?

I think it's because it would require an explanation with an 8 year old of why that mom had a wife instead of a husband, or some such variation of that. It seems to be a topic most parents are not ready or willing to have with an 8 year old in the car ride home.

With a 12 year old? More likely. With a 14 year old? Of course. The exception to that is with families that have values and cultures that are stricter than the 2020's American average. Muslim families, for instance. Or devout Catholics in countries like Mexico or Central America.

My suspicion is honestly just because as you’ve pointed out it’s the broader disapproval of gay relationship that is still a good 15-20 years behind the curve of interracial marriage. Rather than an actual meaningful difference in true age appropriate content.

I agree with that to an extent. Just look at that Gallup polling on several cultural topics, the trend line is clear.

I have no doubt that gay characters in children's films will be less of a big deal in 2040 than they are today. But the issue is that Burbank needs to sell movie tickets in 2023. Should Disney be the culture's agent of change? Or should it follow along and mesh with the current zeitgeist and cultural mores? If you want to make money using Disney's established business model, they need to stick with the latter.

 

[LittleBuford]

Am I the only one who felt Ethan didn’t look boyish enough? As I mentioned before, the design of his face looked more like that of an adult woman to me.

 

[LittleBuford]

I'd totally buy a plush version of the dog and the little blue creature

Splat would love you to adopt him!

Splat Plush – Strange World | shopDisney

Christened by Ethan Clade, Splat is one of the weird inhabitants of Disney's Strange World. Ethan is a member of the Clade family of explorers who embark on an incredible journey to the treacherous land. Now you can bring one of the colorful creatures home in the form of this sparkly blue Splat...

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[TP2000]

No, you just like making racist and bigoted comments, over and over and over again.

List 'em. Quote 'em. I have 19 years of posting history to go through, so there's plenty of material for you to work with.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I’ll need to rewatch (or rehear!) it to pay proper attention.

It’s beautiful! Let me know what you think.

 

[TP2000]

Am I the only one who felt Ethan didn’t look boyish enough? As I mentioned before, his designed looked more like that of an adult woman to me.

It's not just you. Someone else here posted that he looked like Whoopi Goldberg, and from several angles he does in fact look like a 30 year old woman instead of a 14 year old boy.

Weeks ago I posted the original casting call for Ethan's voice actor from several years ago. Disney released initial concept art on what Ethan looked like, and he definitely looked like a teenage boy back then. Somehow he morphed into a more womanly aesthetic.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Am I the only one who felt Ethan didn’t look boyish enough? As I mentioned before, the design of his face looked more like that of an adult woman to me.

Yes, I thought the same thing. I’m not sure how old he is, but he looks grown.

This is why I mentioned the hand-drawn artwork at the credits. The hand-drawn version of Ethan looked much more appropriate and pleasing to the eye.

 

[Figgy1]

Splat would love you to adopt him!

Splat Plush – Strange World | shopDisney

Christened by Ethan Clade, Splat is one of the weird inhabitants of Disney's Strange World. Ethan is a member of the Clade family of explorers who embark on an incredible journey to the treacherous land. Now you can bring one of the colorful creatures home in the form of this sparkly blue Splat...

www.shopdisney.com

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! My wish list has just grown by one

 

[LittleBuford]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! My wish list has just grown by one

And it’s free shipping today!

 

[Chi84]

Am I the only one who felt Ethan didn’t look boyish enough? As I mentioned before, the design of his face looked more like that of an adult woman to me.

I didn’t think that, but I was bothered by the oversized round noses on the characters. They reminded me of clown noses.