'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

[TP2000]

Just to double check that I wasn't going crazy, and that party I went to last night was celebrating 2023 and not 1973, I Googled this topic.

Sure enough, Gallup now states that 94% of Americans approve of inter-racial marriage. Like I thought. The married couple's differing races in Strange World was no big deal.

The percentage of non-whites who still disapprove of inter-racial marriage is about the same as whites today. Like I thought.

U.S. Approval of Interracial Marriage at New High of 94%

Ninety-four percent of U.S. adults now approve of marriages between Black people and White people. Just 4% approved when Gallup first asked the question in 1958.

news.gallup.com

 

[Chi84]

Just to double check that I wasn't going crazy, and that party I went to last night was celebrating 2023 and not 1973, I Googled this topic.

Sure enough, Gallup now states that 94% of Americans approve of inter-racial marriage. Like I thought. The married couple's differing races in Strange World was no big deal.

The percentage of non-whites who still disapprove of inter-racial marriage is about the same as whites today. Like I thought.

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U.S. Approval of Interracial Marriage at New High of 94%

Ninety-four percent of U.S. adults now approve of marriages between Black people and White people. Just 4% approved when Gallup first asked the question in 1958.

news.gallup.com

Did you read the article? It says “solid majorities now support same-sex marriage.” Is there some magic number where children seeing these these couples on film becomes acceptable to you? Some jurisdictional time they’re required to be hidden?

 

[TP2000]

Did you read the article? It says “solid majorities now support same-sex marriage.” Is there some magic number where children seeing these these couples on film becomes acceptable to you? Some jurisdictional time they’re required to be hidden?

That would be up to the parents to decide. I am a childless adult. I don't even really like kids, to be brutally honest.

That said, there is a massive difference between supporting gay marriage and the support for putting gay characters into children's films. Those are two completely different topics and issues. I defer to the parents on how they want to raise their own children, based on their family's culture and values and religions, or perhaps lack thereof for religion.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I dated two Black men in the Carolinas several decades ago (but not at the same time!). Trust me, I am fully aware of the opinions the Black community held on inter-racial couples back then. And that still exist today.



I went to a dinner party up in OC last week, in my old neighborhood. I was seated across the table from a Japanese-American man and his Chicano wife, both in their 60's and have been married for almost 40 years. The party hostess would be someone people would identify as Black, her husband is white. I have absolutely no idea what dinner parties you've been invited to in OC, but mingling with avowed racists has not been my experience at all for the past several decades when I lived there.

LMAO. K, TP.

You were still likely mingling with racists and bigots. Anyone who grew up in Southern California likely is fully aware of how notoriously bigoted and racist Orange County is. Racism was recently just declared a public health crisis out there. Also, just because someone dates or sleeps with someone outside their race, it doesn’t automatically mean they’re not racist. Just because you know interracial couples, that doesn’t mean there aren’t Americans out there shuddering at the interracial couple in Strange World.

I’m not about to get deep into whether or not some Americans are still racist or not with you, because, obviously, of course this is still a thing and always will be. Some of the same folks complaining about gay representation are also warning their white children right now about bringing home a person of color, forbidding them not to do it. These folks are conservative bigots, more likely than not. We know this.

This has gotten into politics, so I’m stopping here. Why don’t you actually watch the movie, if you haven’t already?

 

[TP2000]

Did you read the article? It says “solid majorities now support same-sex marriage.”

Just to clarify, that one sentence is the only mention of same-sex marriage in that article I read and posted. It links to a separate article about gay marriage, if anyone is interested.

The support for gay marriage now stands at 70% among Americans, less than the 94% who support inter-racial marriage.

Record-High 70% in U.S. Support Same-Sex Marriage

U.S. support for legal same-sex marriage continues to grow, now at 70% -- a new high in Gallup's trend dating to 1996.

news.gallup.com

 

[TP2000]

LMAO. K, TP.

You were still likely mingling with racists and bigots.

No, I was not. And I will sleep soundly tonight knowing quite clearly that I was not mingling with racists.

If I had been at a party or event where someone made a racist remark, or used bigoted language, I would have exited that situation almost immediately. I can not remember any time within the past few decades where I have been in that type of situation in Southern California, or in my own OC neighborhood that was noticeably racially diverse (and quite friendly!).

The party I went to last night celebrated 2023, not 1953. I happily live in the year 2023.

 

[Chi84]

That would be up to the parents to decide. I am a childless adult. I don't even really like kids, to be brutally honest.

That said, there is a massive difference between supporting gay marriage and the support for putting gay characters into children's films. Those are two completely different topics and issues. I defer to the parents on how they want to raise their own children, based on their family's culture and values and religions, or perhaps lack thereof for religion.

You’re not making any sense. 94% of Americans support interracial marriage, so it’s okay to show them in children’s films; 70% support same-sex marriage, but it’s up to the moral sensibilities of parents to keep children from seeing them. At what percentage point did it become no longer okay for parents to object to interracial couples?

 

[TP2000]

You’re not making any sense. 94% of Americans support interracial marriage, so it’s okay to show them in children’s films; 70% support same-sex marriage, but it’s up to the moral sensibilities of parents to keep children from seeing them. At what percentage point did it become no longer okay for parents to object to interracial couples?

Again, these are issues you need to ask the parents. I am not a parent.

But if you are asking me as a childless adult, let's pretend that I am tasked with babysitting some children and am taking them to the movies. If the children are aged 6 and 8, I would not take them to a movie with an openly gay character in it. That is subject matter that should be handled by the parents when the parents want to discuss sexuality with their kids.

But if I am babysitting children who are aged 14 and 16, I would be far more comfortable taking them to a movie with an openly gay character in it. At that age, it's almost always healthy for them to see that type of thing in movies and media.

There is a giant difference between an 8 year old boy and a 14 year old boy. There is a chasm of difference between a 6 year old boy and a 16 year old boy. I don't blame parents one bit for knowing that instinctively and being cautious and purposeful of when they introduce certain concepts into their child's development.

 

[LittleBuford]

Apparently a majority of parents with small children around the world share that opinion too.

You have zero evidence that Strange World’s failure has anything to do with its gay content (such as it is).

We’ve also been asked to move on from that particular obsession of yours and actually discuss the film itself. Watching it would be a start.

 

[LittleBuford]

Why don’t you actually watch the movie, if you haven’t already?

Because his aim is merely to stir the pot, not to contribute to this thread in good faith. He’s demonstrated that time and time again.

 

[TP2000]

You have zero evidence that Strange World’s failure has anything to do with its gay content (such as it is).

We’ve also been asked to move on from that particular obsession of yours and actually discuss the film itself. Watching it would be a start.

I have absolutely no plans to watch the movie. I have plans to discuss it's financial impact on the Walt Disney Company, and the future impact of future films however.

That said, all this talk pretending it's still the 1960's and we're all secret Klan members here has inspired me to dust off an old favorite film tonight! I'm going to watch Guess Who's Coming To Dinner, which I absolutely adore! I have the Blu-Ray they released a few years ago, but it's at home and I'm at the beach house. But it's streaming in HD on Amazon Prime for 4 bucks!

Look at that, streaming actually works sometimes!

If anyone hasn't watched that movie, it's a masterpiece. It's surprisingly funny in spots, but that last 10 minutes in the living room with Spencer Tracey's final speech makes me tear me up every damn time. Every. Damn. Time.

 

[LittleBuford]

I have absolutely no plans to watch the movie.

We know. See my previous post.

 

[Californian Elitist]

No, I was not. And I will sleep soundly tonight knowing quite clearly that I was not mingling with racists.

If I had been at a party or event where someone made a racist remark, or used bigoted language, I would have exited that situation almost immediately. I can not remember any time within the past few decades where I have been in that type of situation in Southern California, or in my own OC neighborhood that was noticeably racially diverse (and quite friendly!).

The party I went to last night celebrated 2023, not 1953. I happily live in the year 2023.

I said what I said.

Who here has seen the movie?

 

[TP2000]

We know. See my previous post.

Yes. You aren't the only person here who feels you can't discuss a movie you haven't seen.

I haven't discussed the artistic merits of the film here, as I haven't seen it. From what I've read, it actually has some stunning visuals and fun environments? And a unique plot twist that children would probably find really fun to ponder.

But the financials behind this giant flop right at a time of corporate crisis.... Oof!

 

[Chi84]

Again, these are issues you need to ask the parents. I am not a parent.

But if you are asking me as a childless adult, let's pretend that I am tasked with babysitting some children and am taking them to the movies. If the children are aged 6 and 8, I would not take them to a movie with an openly gay character in it. That is subject matter that should be handled by the parents when the parents want to discuss sexuality with their kids.

But if I am babysitting children who are aged 14 and 16, I would be far more comfortable taking them to a movie with an openly gay character in it. At that age, it's almost always healthy for them to see that type of thing in movies and media.

There is a giant difference between an 8 year old boy and a 14 year old boy. There is a chasm of difference between a 6 year old boy and a 16 year old boy. I don't blame parents one bit for knowing that instinctively and being cautious and purposeful of when they introduce certain concepts into their child's development.

You seem to think you know a lot about parents and kids.

Actually, your post does not answer my question at all and I’m pretty sure you know it. I can tell from your last few posts that you’re just playing with people here. Enjoy.

 

[TP2000]

I said what I said.

You tried to claim that I hang out with racists. I do not.

You were still likely mingling with racists and bigots.

Saying that people you've never met in real life hang out with racists is not just wildly impolite and inappropriate, it is slanderous.

You simply owe me an apology. I'll wait...

 

[TP2000]

You seem to think you know a lot about parents and kids.

I know very little about parenting. But what I do know about it, I have great respect for them.

Actually, your post does not answer my question at all and I’m pretty sure you know it. I can tell from your last few posts that you’re just playing with people here. Enjoy.

Your question was odd, to say the least. I felt I did a pretty good job answering it with my babysitting at the movies analogy.

 

[LittleBuford]

I said what I said.

Who here has seen the movie?

The unfortunate thing is that I had to actively work not to think of this thread while watching it. For me at least, the discussion here tainted what was otherwise a very pleasurable experience. It’s a terrible shame that such a well-intentioned film should have been turned into a dumping ground for reactionary grievances.

 

[Californian Elitist]

You tried to claim that I hang out with racists. I do not.



Saying that people you've never met in real life hang out with racists is not just wildly impolite and inappropriate, it is slanderous.

You simply owe me an apology. I'll wait...

No, I didn’t. I said you likely mingled with them in Orange County, a notoriously racist and bigoted county. I stand by that.

I owe you nothing, but if you want to ever try and get one from me in the future, send me a PM.

 

[Californian Elitist]

The unfortunate thing is that I had to actively work not to think of this thread while watching it. For me at least, the discussion here tainted what was otherwise a very pleasurable experience. It’s a terrible shame that such a well-intentioned film should have been turned into a dumping ground for reactionary grievances.

I too actively thought of this thread while watching it, sadly. I partially blame myself, though. I didn’t have to keep engaging in the thread, but I chose to do so.