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EPCOT New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life
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ToTBellHop
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It’s merely being moved into long term storage.He said "shelved."
Things can be taken off the shelf.
Or left there forever.
He also said other interesting things revealed by his source such as surveys indicating that guests desires for IP are driving the 'shoehorned IP' bus, not just corporate synergy dictated from above.
Also from TPI... work had been done toward PLAY!. It's not like it was gutted and left totally empty.
He's also a site we're allowed to link to (but not too often)...
Confirmed: No 'Play' Pavilion at Walt Disney World
www.themeparkinsider.com
The mustache is obviously fake in this photo of Chapek from Friday night.
JustInTime
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He was partially right. The iridescent spires were painted over because it didn’t hold up in the sun. I saw them in person and it looked horrible.
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Prototype82
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I'd believe it when it's official. So much work has been done AND it has IP all over the place? Seems surprising to me that it would be cancelled this far along.
What a great way of describing it !
CaptainAmerica
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Wait, is that a surprise to people? I've been screeching about this since Frozen came to the World Showcase, and especially when it came to the closure of Reflections of Earth.
"Epcot isn't 'Disney' enough" has been a top guest feedback sentiment for decades at this point.
Anyone looking to point fingers for shoehorned IP shouldn't be looking for someone named Bob, they should be looking at their fellow guests.
Mickeynerd17
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Technically the 20k replacement at MK?
It wasn't a villains mountain ride, but it did get a replacement eventually.
CaptainAmerica
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Wasn't Mine Train in and out of New Fantasyland about a dozen times?
TwilightZone
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He said "shelved."
Things can be taken off the shelf.
Or left there forever.
He also said other interesting things revealed by his source such as surveys indicating that guests desires for IP are driving the 'shoehorned IP' bus, not just corporate synergy dictated from above.
Also from TPI... work had been done toward PLAY!. It's not like it was gutted and left totally empty.
He's also a site we're allowed to link to (but not too often
Confirmed: No 'Play' Pavilion at Walt Disney World
www.themeparkinsider.com
I can think of one IP that could fit the play concept...
And several that can fit other concepts...
Health and fitness...
Internet and technology...
Space and ecology...
Weather...
UNCgolf
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I wouldn't consider that shelved/unshelved. They were going to build something there eventually.
I meant a specific project -- where they had plans to build some specific thing, put it away, then came back and built that exact thing years later instead of reconfiguring it into something else. Like if they suddenly started building the Main Street Theater next year.
ToTBellHop
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I would liken this to Legendary Years. A lot of construction occurred, then it was paused. It resumed later with a light retheme (to Little Mermaid). I could see the same happen here.
Mary Poppins is different since they didn’t do anything on that project. It would be easy to ignore if not for the CEO liking it.
gustaftp
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How much more could labor costs have been than any of the other Future World pavilions? They all have lots of staff.
I always felt most of these Play! elements would be a better fit for the original ImageWorks space. But to basically lose this pavilion in an already-extremely watered down overhaul that has done little more than rip out the entire center of the park with nothing to show just furthers my resolve to not return for the foreseeable future. They’ve really up EPCOT, and it’s sad.
But at least the restored entrance looks nice.
I always felt most of these Play! elements would be a better fit for the original ImageWorks space. But to basically lose this pavilion in an already-extremely watered down overhaul that has done little more than rip out the entire center of the park with nothing to show just furthers my resolve to not return for the foreseeable future. They’ve really up EPCOT, and it’s sad.
But at least the restored entrance looks nice.
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TwilightZone
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I can't help to remember a certain part of the Light Magic opening special (I have been fixated with that dreadful show lately, especially with recent events).
One point, I believe it was a clip of Paul Pressler, said that the guests love rides based on movies. Snow white, tomorrowland's subs, and more were all pointed as examples.
Then when one of the hosts goes to the Light Magic audience and asked what their favorite ride was, most adult (and children)'s favorite rides were the ones that WEREN'T based on a movie. Most prominently was Haunted Mansion.
So sure, maybe people do like movie rides...but it seems like a majority would prefer and revisit a ride that is not based on a movie more often.
UNCgolf
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I don't think it's this as much as the fact Haunted Mansion (along with several other attractions that were not based on pre-existing IP) is just better than most other rides. I also think it's easier to build a great attraction without IP because there's inherently more creative freedom, which may help explain why those rides are often better.
With that said, there's no problem with Disney using their IP for attractions. It's good for marketing and of course people enjoy seeing IP they know. The problem is refusing to even consider an attraction that doesn't use IP, since that severely limits design options. Instead of saying, "Come up with the best ideas possible", it's "Look at the IP we own and figure out what you can do with that".
Realistically, it's not "look at the IP we own" either because not all Disney-owned IP is truly on the table. They're not going to sign off on an attraction based on IP they consider irrelevant; it needs to be something from the relatively recent past or something that's shown sustained popularity via merchandise sales, Disney+ views, etc.
_caleb
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Whether PLAY ends up happening or not, it still seems like a no-brainer to me that Disney would have a place to guests to take Instagram photos and TikTok videos with IP props/scenes.
At this point, they’ve pretty much missed the opportunity for what may literally be the easiest thing (besides maybe the Purple Wall) to get people to come out for.
At this point, they’ve pretty much missed the opportunity for what may literally be the easiest thing (besides maybe the Purple Wall) to get people to come out for.
Bocabear
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but isn't that the whole resort? 4 parks full of photo ops and meet and greets? I don't think they then need to create an entire pavilion full of more artificial photo ops... Sure, add an extra photo op in the queue area of each attraction, but there is plenty to photograph already... everywhere...