EPCOT Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind SPOILER Thread

[wdwmagic]

You mentioned that EPCOT needed the capacity. I'm of the opinion that of all the parks, EPCOT needs capacity the least. What EPCOT needs is quality. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that this is a higher capacity attraction, but despite the downtime of other major attractions in the park, most of the rides are fairly efficient.

EPCOT needs ride capacity, not just bodies capacity.

 

[BrianLo]

But I was totally right that the Diznoids were saying this would have AAs, show scenes, and all sorts of stuff that was just not happening.

I also was the one saying the motion sickness was bubbling up. I was told I was wrong. And here we are with changes being made before the ride opens to the public.

If you are going to do your victory lap, you also insisted, quite recently, that the vehicles didn’t rotate.

The attraction has show scenes, by the way.

 

[BrianLo]

EPCOT needs ride capacity, not just bodies capacity.

Epcot has at least four indoor rides that are functionally walk ons most of the day. No other WDW park has that. I’m not sure if any other park even has one? Maybe Star Tours?

I agree with @RSoxNo1 that Epcots issue is perceived quality. DHS is more the capacity issue. Rat and Guardians definitely help.

 

[Hawg G]

If you are going to do your victory lap, you also insisted, quite recently, that the vehicles didn’t rotate.

The attraction has show scenes, by the way.

Ummm, I never said they didn’t rotate. It’s a Vekoma rotating coaster.

No, it has screens with ZERO surrounding sets. The lift has some rudimentary set dressing, and the there a sphere you go around.

 

[BrianLo]

Ummm, I never said they didn’t rotate. It’s a Vekoma rotating coaster.

No, it has screens with ZERO surrounding sets. The lift has some rudimentary set dressing, and the there a sphere you go around.

Gringotts rotates cars in sync with the one Goblin while your going about 5 mph. So folks are thinking this coaster will be rotating cars in sync with a GRAVITY SECTION with no sensors for car position, to keep all cars facing a central, static object?

Wow, someone gets it. Going from backwards to forwards at high speed, sure. Rotating to keep folks faced in a certain direction as they go around curves and helixes at speed? I just don’t see it. And, I just don’t see the point of spending a lot of money for that capability.

I’ve ridden Gringotts when the cars didn’t rotate properly before the final launch, and it wasn’t really comfortable. To rotate to see set pieces and screens like Gringotts, a coaster that is much closer to what the video shows, it makes sense.

I do really feel this will end up like the Dwarf Hill swinging. It’s essentially pointless, and most folks probably don’t even notice it until the brake run.

Here you go!

 

[UNCgolf]

Epcot has at least four indoor rides that are functionally walk ons most of the day. No other WDW park has that. I’m not sure if any other park even has one? Maybe Star Tours?

I agree with @RSoxNo1 that Epcots issue is perceived quality. DHS is more the capacity issue. Rat and Guardians definitely help.

Magic Kingdom has at least a couple (Little Mermaid and Carousel of Progress were always walk-ons the last couple of times I was there), but it also has far more rides than any other park.

 

[Touchdown]

Orion would have a word with you about best coaster set in space.

Orion is not set in space, it’s set in X-base in the back of Kings Island.

 

[celluloid]

Magic Kingdom has at least a couple (Little Mermaid and Carousel of Progress were always walk-ons the last couple of times I was there), but it also has far more rides than any other park.

Also to add The Railroad and Mark Twain are rarely more than a wait for the vehicle arriving when they are open. And Peoplemover when it worked properly(and if can get back to that status) never truly has a wait either.

EPCOT needs more quality rides from baby to grandma. Frozen and Rat may be a good start even though they are IP heavy for most of us.(and Frozen replaced an existing situation of baby to grandparent thrilll)

Most EPCOT rides are either a height requirement with a lower capacity or a dated/underwhelming snoozefest.

 

[Professortango1]

Also to add The Railroad and Mark Twain are rarely more than a wait for the vehicle arriving when they are open. And Peoplemover when it worked properly(and if can get back to that status) never truly has a wait either.

EPCOT needs more quality rides from baby to grandma. Frozen and Rat may be a good start even though they are IP heavy for most of us.(and Frozen replaced an existing situation of baby to grandparent thrilll)

Most EPCOT rides are either a height requirement with a lower capacity or a dated/underwhelming snoozefest.

Epcot still has some of my favourite attractions like Spaceship Earth and Living With the Land. Journey needs an update and is another all ages ride. Sadly, Universe of Energy was another ride I enjoyed as a kid and as an adult.

Where the park lacks is attractions in World Showcase. Germany and Japan and UK/Canada really need attractions. That and a replacement of Nemo and turning Seas into something worth visiting again.

 

[Professortango1]

If you are going to do your victory lap, you also insisted, quite recently, that the vehicles didn’t rotate.

The attraction has show scenes, by the way.

I wouldn't call what the attraction has "show scenes." Disneyland's Space Mountain has the same elements (themed lift, screens, and a physical rock we circle around) and I wouldn't say SM has show scenes, rather themed elements.

 

[celluloid]

Epcot still has some of my favourite attractions like Spaceship Earth and Living With the Land. Journey needs an update and is another all ages ride. Sadly, Universe of Energy was another ride I enjoyed as a kid and as an adult.

Where the park lacks is attractions in World Showcase. Germany and Japan and UK/Canada really need attractions. That and a replacement of Nemo and turning Seas into something worth visiting again.

That is fair. And I don't mean I don't enjoy those said attractions. They are snooze fests to most because of their lack of care and upkeep to their concepts with Imagination obviously being the worst offender from what it once was before the changes. I totally agree with you. It is just sad the bones of the attractions are there and what we want them to be. And the newer ones lack capacity or accessibility.

 

[lentesta]

You mentioned that EPCOT needed the capacity. I'm of the opinion that of all the parks, EPCOT needs capacity the least. What EPCOT needs is quality. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that this is a higher capacity attraction, but despite the downtime of other major attractions in the park, most of the rides are fairly efficient.

Here's how much ride capacity EPCOT is losing per day, over the past month. My ride capacity numbers can be off, so take this with a grain of salt:

• Frozen Ever After: 70 minutes/day, roughly 1,260 riders
• Remy's Ratatouille Adventure: 65 minutes, 2,400 riders
• Spaceship Earth: 63 minutes, 2,600 riders
• Test Track: 94 minutes, 2,500 riders

All told, EPCOT's losing a bit over 12,000 rides/day. That's roughly one Peter Pan closed all day, every day, give or take.

But that's not the whole issue, right? When a G+ ride breaks down, don't guests get a good-anywhere G+? But there's no excess capacity to handle those new G+ riders at the still-running attractions.

There's tons of capacity at the film festival, at The Seas pavilion, and Imagination. But nobody's paying $160/day for them.

 

[gorillaball]

Here you go!

Dang that internet...

 

[gorillaball]

Even I think Hawg is quite a bit too relentless and lacking of nuance in his criticism of WDW.

So it’s really bad that he seems to have turned out to be right on this, huh?

If, indeed, they are already tuning down the primary selling point of the ride, that will be the second time they built a very expensive ride on that side of Future World without understanding it would make a lot of people ill. That’s a HUGE indictment of the foresight and engineering abilities of the designers and executives.

Bolded for emphasis to make sure we don't run off the rails with one person saying it's been maybe adjusted. Has there ever been a thrill ride that didn't make some people ill? and during test and adjust previews isn't that probably a good thing to do, evaluate? IF, indeed

Lastly - adjusted does not mean turning off.

 

[disneygeek90]

Expect changes in regards to the vehicle rotations. They MAY have already been implemented but they are addressing it since enough people didn't feel too well after riding.

I’m sort of surprised to hear how many are having issues. I’d be pretty upset to see them tune this thing down. It’s an absolute blast and it legitimately feels like you’re surfing and gliding through space.

 

[BrianLo]

I wouldn't call what the attraction has "show scenes." Disneyland's Space Mountain has the same elements (themed lift, screens, and a physical rock we circle around) and I wouldn't say SM has show scenes, rather themed elements.

It’s a bit pedantic, but a show scene isn’t quite the same thing as a set or set piece or even something that is good or coherent. But the ride has different ‘scenes’ and even traverses between two sectioned off areas of the warehouse with multiple queue setup scenes. Including the load, launch and post.

It’s perhaps dumb, but internally you know Disney has labeled the galaxarium as ‘scene one’. I’m being pedantic though, this doesn’t really matter.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I feel like people are assuming they're "toning it down" when the implication seemed more to be that they were "fine tuning".

I don't know personally that either of those are happening, but we should be conscious of the difference.

 

[Jrb1979]

I feel like people are assuming they're "toning it down" when the implication seemed more to be that they were "fine tuning".

I don't know personally that either of those are happening, but we should be conscious of the difference.

Fine tuning or not it's a shame they can't leave it as is.

 

[Chester&Hester Enthusiast]

Here you go!

I personally can't wait to see where they move the goalposts to next!

 

[BrianLo]

I personally can't wait to see where they move the goalposts to next!

It's all about inflaming some senseless Disney versus Universal fanboy war. No one is biting because no one cares.

The irony is that Disney's biggest critics are generally the biggest fans. As clearly evidenced here.