Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Disney Analyst]

Impressive, when did the clock start there?

Hmm, we started Vaccinations for priority groups late December 2020, early 2021.

As a 30 year old, I did not become eligible for my first dose until May 2021. Got second dose July, Third dose this January.

We started ages 5-11 end of November 2021 or December 2021.

I'm not sure what percent of kids have a first dose, but it's pushed the province to 90%, so that's good.

 

[JoeCamel]

Hmm, we started Vaccinations for priority groups late December 2020, early 2021.

As a 30 year old, I did not become eligible for my first dose until May 2021. Got second dose July, Third dose this January.

We started ages 5-11 end of November 2021 or December 2021.

I'm not sure what percent of kids have a first dose, but it's pushed the province to 90%, so that's good.

Wow, a year....
We can only stare with envy

 

[Salted Nut Roll]

This is good. Very good. Things are finally starting to look up (knocking wood).

Europe entering Covid pandemic 'ceasefire', says WHO

The WHO's Europe director says the continent may soon enter a "period of tranquillity" from Covid.

www.bbc.com

 

[Polkadotdress]

Finally!!

Meanwhile, here in the US…

 

[HairyChest]

Meanwhile, here in the US…

It may not be an issue if a good percentage of those unvaccinated got COVID already.

 

[Lilofan]

Finally!!

No surprise here. Kudos to Canada with great numbers however with the " unvax tax " that the Canadian unvaccinated folks were going to be faced with, provided just the right incentive for some to change their minds and roll up their sleeves. Instituting the unvax tax here in the USA would be just wishful thinking.

 

[Disney Analyst]

No surprise here. Kudos to Canada with great numbers however with the " unvax tax " that the Canadian unvaccinated folks were going to be faced with, provided just the right incentive for some to change their minds and roll up their sleeves. Instituting the unvax tax here in the USA would be just wishful thinking.

I mean, that was only considered in Quebec mind you. So that financial penalty was never going to be a thing here in BC.

Is Quebec still even going to do it now? I can’t remember.

 

[JoeCamel]

It may not be an issue if a good percentage of those unvaccinated got COVID already.

Probably will be an issue for them, word being probably. I know a way to take the uncertainty out of it....

Omicron largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses | Imperial News | Imperial College London

The Omicron variant largely evades immunity from past infection or two vaccine doses according to the latest Imperial modelling.

www.imperial.ac.uk

What we know now about COVID immunity after infection – including Omicron and Delta variants

Infection seems to add a boost to immunity – but vaccination is still vital and breakthrough infections should be avoided as much as possible.

theconversation.com

How long does immunity after Omicron infection last?

Two main factors affect how well your acquired immunity after Omicron infection will protect you.

cosmosmagazine.com

 

[Lilofan]

I mean, that was only considered in Quebec mind you. So that financial penalty was never going to be a thing here in BC.

Is Quebec still even going to do it now? I can’t remember.

Wake up incentive seems to be working ( ie 90% first shot ). BC's 2 shot vaccine percentage is a commendable 78% so there was no unvax tax financial incentive penalty to convince your part of the country. In Quebec, the unvax tax talk was to convince the unvax to change their minds and get vaccinated. Results first shot Canada - 90%. Great job. When it affects peoples finances, whatever works..

 

[matt9112]

Yep, I agree. What I have a problem with, is people looking at this article, and just because they like the conclusion running with it as the final word on the topic.

I mean the economic damage coupled with the money printer going brrrrrrr.....i don't even care about the mortality rate in a vacuum. I care about how it affects the health of an entire society/culture/nation. We spent more money on this thing than we can comprehend yet it was all worth it? Especially since the virus was only dramatically deadly for a very specific cohert of individuals. Franky individuals that are no longer producers. Yes of course young people died too theres always outliers but everyone was screaming from the rafters as if there were wheelbarrows full of dead lining the streets. The closest thing we got was overflowing morgues. (The right now demand economy at work) we legitimately put pause on the world economy because a fraction of the population might die. To be fair back than nobody knew and i wouldn't blame anyone for being cautious early on but the fact some places have vax passports right now? Laughable.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I mean the economic damage coupled with the money printer going brrrrrrr.....i don't even care about the mortality rate in a vacuum. I care about how it affects the health of an entire society/culture/nation. We spent more money on this thing than we can comprehend yet it was all worth it? Especially since the virus was only dramatically deadly for a very specific cohert of individuals. Franky individuals that are no longer producers. Yes of course young people died too theres always outliers but everyone was screaming from the rafters as if there were wheelbarrows full of dead lining the streets. The closest thing we got was overflowing morgues. (The right now demand economy at work) we legitimately put pause on the world economy because a fraction of the population might die. To be fair back than nobody knew and i wouldn't blame anyone for being cautious early on but the fact some places have vax passports right now? Laughable.

The lockdowns were two years ago and no country in North America or Europe is considering lockdowns again. So, why are you going on and on and on and on about it as if you're worried it's going to happen again? Such an obvious canard.

And as been told to you to many a time, the lockdowns were instituted in the previous U.S. administration to flatten the curve to prevent overwhelming the health care system. Remember full ICUs and the scramble for ventilators?

The other hope for a lockdown was to actually stop a pandemic, which could only have been successful if there was robust contact tracing and quarantining, which the previous administration failed to provide. And, a strict quarantining at our borders, which the previous administration failed to provide as it allowed continued flow of people from favored nations.

There are no lockdowns coming, so, you can stop fuming about it like it's going to happen again.

 

[Communicora]

It may not be an issue if a good percentage of those unvaccinated got COVID already.

Unfortunately, immunity from previous infections isn't as durable as vaccination, especially with Omicron. However, they might give us a slight respite for a few months.

 

[danlb_2000]

I mean the economic damage coupled with the money printer going brrrrrrr.....i don't even care about the mortality rate in a vacuum. I care about how it affects the health of an entire society/culture/nation. We spent more money on this thing than we can comprehend yet it was all worth it? Especially since the virus was only dramatically deadly for a very specific cohert of individuals. Franky individuals that are no longer producers. Yes of course young people died too theres always outliers but everyone was screaming from the rafters as if there were wheelbarrows full of dead lining the streets. The closest thing we got was overflowing morgues. (The right now demand economy at work) we legitimately put pause on the world economy because a fraction of the population might die. To be fair back than nobody knew and i wouldn't blame anyone for being cautious early on but the fact some places have vax passports right now? Laughable.

You seem to be implying that economic damage overwhelming came from the lockdowns, but a lot of it also came from the pandemic itself. When movie theater's re-opened did the audiences come flooding back?

 

[JoeCamel]

You seem to be implying that economic damage overwhelming came from the lockdowns, but a lot of it also came from the pandemic itself. When movie theater's re-opened did the audiences come flooding back?

Business travel?

 

[TehPuddingMan]

Unfortunately, immunity from previous infections isn't as durable as vaccination, especially with Omicron. However, they might give us a slight respite for a few months.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You seem to be implying that economic damage overwhelming came from the lockdowns, but a lot of it also came from the pandemic itself. When movie theater's re-opened did the audiences come flooding back?

It’s amazing how this canard keeps getting preached. We saw people start reacting on their own before lockdowns. We saw essential businesses disrupted by illness during lockdowns. We continue to see disruptions without lockdowns. The idea that things would have just carried on just fine has no basis in what has happened and continues to happen.

 

[danlb_2000]

Business travel?

That is another good example. My company just went to a big tradeshow in our industry. There were no mandates that would have impacted the ability of exhibitors or attendees from going but attendance from both groups was down from pre-pandemic levels.

 

[lazyboy97o]

That is another good example. My company just went to a big tradeshow in our industry. There were no mandates that would have impacted the ability of exhibitors or attendees from going but attendance from both groups was down from pre-pandemic levels.

And those types of events were being cancelled left and right before any restrictions were imposed.

 

[Lilofan]

That is another good example. My company just went to a big tradeshow in our industry. There were no mandates that would have impacted the ability of exhibitors or attendees from going but attendance from both groups was down from pre-pandemic levels.

My family member and his fellow peers were supposed to go to Vegas last month for the annual computer tech event that attracts more than 125K attendees. The week long event still went on but many companies traveling and taking part in the CES convention cancelled. This creates a ripple effect of losses for discretionary income fueled Las Vegas. One part of International Drive in Orlando has the big event center surrounded by hotels and dining options catering to convention guests. How they are still operating without these guests must be challenging.

 

[mmascari]

Unfortunately, immunity from previous infections isn't as durable as vaccination, especially with Omicron. However, they might give us a slight respite for a few months.

Do any of the opinion articles/pundits who are big into prior infection actually call it prior infection or do they all refer to it as natural immunity?

That seems like an easy and huge tell about an opinion piece or biased agenda. Calling it natural immunity is super misleading. Like there's some number of people that are just naturally immune and wouldn't even catch COVID. The ones that say prior infection are at least honest about it. I would assume any peer reviewed study is going to call it prior infection since that's what they're talking about.