Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Polkadotdress]

I really wonder what options they think they have. There isn't a transplant program in the country that won't require full vaccination.

The article makes it seems like his refusal to vaccinate was the only thing keeping him from getting a transplant, but knowing how scarce donor hearts are, I suspect this is not the case. I doubt there was an available, properly matched donor. More than likely, he was never on the wait list to begin with. He probably needed full vaccination even before becoming eligible.

I’m wondering if the Covid vaccine was the only vaccine he lacked, or if there were others as well? I understand you need to be fully vaxx’d against many diseases to get a transplant like this.

 

[Lilofan]

It is not funny at all. It is sad how much we and the world depend on them. The country who unleased this virus on the world, and literally has active concentration camps, gets to also profit by selling our government tests. Not to mention the millions of other products made there. We should have started shifting manufacturing out of China to places like in South America long ago.

That's a pipe dream. Perhaps the work environment under the gun, staff live on premises and to work and produce for worldwide and USA companies would not happen in a grand scale in South America . Example, Apple has contracts with a company in Schzen China that produces 500K iPhones per day. That would be a dream in South America. China produces approx 75% of our meds ( pain killers, antibiotics, etc ) , we are dependent on them.

 

[Andrew C]

That's a pipe dream. The work ethic perhaps under the gun, staff live on premises and to work and produce for worldwide and USA companies would not happen in a grand scale in South America . Example, Apple has contracts with a company in Schzen China that produces 500K iPhones per day. That would be a dream in South America. China produces approx 75% of our meds , we are dependent on them.

It’s not a pipe dream. It’s called difficult work that will take time to achieve. Need to start somewhere, unless we want to have our manufacturing depend almost solely on a country involved in in-country genocide.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

That's what happens when US manufacturing capability gets decimated over decades.

I was watching a documentary the other day about how Americas manufacturing capabilities were a major factor in the allies winning WW2 and all I could think is we’re screwed if we ever get in another world wide conflict, especially since any major conflict would likely pit us against China.

 

[Lilofan]

It’s not a pipe dream. It’s just called hard and difficult work that will take time to achieve. Need to start somewhere, unless we want to have our manufacturing depend almost solely on a country involved in in-country genocide.

So the approx 500K barrels per year of crude oil we get from Saudi Arabia who we have good relations but they have just a bit of human rights issues? Our country has business relations with countries with their own issues, not just China.

 

[Andrew C]

So the approx 500K barrels per year of crude oil we get from Saudi Arabia who we have good relations but they have just a bit of human rights issues? Our country has business relations with countries with their own issues, not just China.

Another country where it’s not necessary for us to be dependent on. But we are talking about China here given the Covid tests were brought up

 

[correcaminos]

That's what happens when US manufacturing capability gets decimated over decades.

Out of curiosity, where was the device you posted this from made?

Just to be a twit, not one of my current mobile devices or accessories is made in China.

 

[Lilofan]

Just to be a twit, not one of my current mobile devices or accessories is made in China.

Sure, but Vietnam and India who manufactures similar items don't have the greatest working conditions either.

 

[hopemax]

The cliches that come to mind are: “you reap what you sow,” and “you get what you pay for.”

Our dependency on certain countries is the result of a million business decisions. Economic decisions. This thread is filled with examples of people prioritizing business and economic decisions over public health. This forum is filled with threads of justifications for business decisions.

Unless corporate America changes their minds, this is what we’ve got. The people keep saying the country should be run “more like a business.” Political leaders defer to business leaders all the time, and people shake their heads that this is a good thing. You want a different outcome, it starts with whose voices carry the most weight. Conscientious concerns, ethics, morality they all take a back seat to the quarterly earnings reposts. The pandemic crystallized that even more than what everyone thought before.

 

[correcaminos]

Sure, but Vietnam and India who manufactures similar items don't have the greatest working conditions either.

Not the point..... it was a joke. Then again I didn't buy an American product. I expect also Bangladesh or Korea or Vietnam when I buy brands like Samsung. Much like my Mini, I know darn well where that's from.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Not the point..... it was a joke. Then again I didn't buy an American product. I expect also Bangladesh or Korea or Vietnam when I buy brands like Samsung. Much like my Mini, I know darn well where that's from.

Automation is starting to make some production in America competitive again, my previous car was a Nissan Altima that was made in Tennessee, my current Mazda is made in Japan but they are in talks to build (or perhaps already building) a plant in Alabama for the next CX5.

 

[correcaminos]

Automation is starting to make some production in America competitive again, my previous car was a Nissan Altima that was made in Tennessee, my current Mazda is made in Japan but they are in talks to build (or perhaps already building) a plant in Alabama for the next CX5.

Yeah my Hondas for many years were often made up the road from where I live (okay kind of far, but people do commute to the Honda plant from my neighborhood). I think my spouse's was US made too. I just happen to like Samsung for mobile devices over others. If I went to US Motorola I'd be getting a Chinese phone. At least Samsung you expect it. I would love some manufacturing to come back to states side. Some countries are finding China isn't the best to do and have pulled out. Who knows if that can happen. But that's nothing to do with covid. Just life in general.

 

[mf1972]

Reminiscent of the times when we were supposed to worry about ‘farts’ passing covid.

Lifting the lid on coronavirus flatulence

The highly infectious virus is spread via aerosols (droplets of saliva or nasal discharge spread by coughing or sneezing by the infected person with the mouth uncovered). New speculation reveals that it could spread via fecal matter and even via farts or flatulence. Researchers believe that...

www.news-medical.net

going by this, my wife labeled me as a super spreader

 

[mkt]

Much like my Mini, I know darn well where that's from.

A combination of parts made all over the world whose final assembly is either England, Germany, or the Netherlands.

 

[mkt]

Automation is starting to make some production in America competitive again

Yes, but the jobs being created aren't enough to offset the ones the US lost.

my previous car was a Nissan Altima

my condolences

my current Mazda is made in Japan but they are in talks to build (or perhaps already building) a plant in Alabama for the next CX5.

That plant is already under construction, but what hasn't been announced is if the US plant will just be final assembly of imported components, or full assembly.

 

[mkt]

I was watching a documentary the other day about how Americas manufacturing capabilities were a major factor in the allies winning WW2 and all I could think is we’re screwed if we ever get in another world wide conflict, especially since any major conflict would likely pit us against China.

Looks more like Russia, and yes we are.

 

[JoeCamel]

Looks more like Russia, and yes we are.

Oh, we gonna be both, China is holding Taiwan up like Ukraine so if Russia does invade then they might take a run at the R.O.C
This is more of a threat than Covid I think but it may be triggered by Covid. 2022 is going to be a very turbulent year on a global scale with all the strains and tugs from different directions.

 

[correcaminos]

A combination of parts made all over the world whose final assembly is either England, Germany, or the Netherlands.

England - Oxford for mine. Sadly in the future it does look like China will be a place for many electrics, but I am glad both of the Minis I have owned are Oxford cars. The last one is more i3 really than Mini under the bonnet but it's a fun little car.

 

[mkt]

England - Oxford for mine. Sadly in the future it does look like China will be a place for many electrics, but I am glad both of the Minis I have owned are Oxford cars. The last one is more i3 really than Mini under the bonnet but it's a fun little car.

China has a greater variety and range of electric vehicles than any other country, so it makes sense.

 

[JoeCamel]

China has a greater variety and range of electric vehicles than any other country, so it makes sense.

But if you push the electrics hard they burn up like a Harbor Freight drill motor. Too many corners cut to get the price point.