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Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DisneyCane

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Question for those who know.

My 15 year old daughter had both shots and recently had Omicron.

Do I have to wait to take her to get boosted?
It would appear that neither prior infection nor vaccination are very effective in preventing infection from Omicron. Both may very well help to prevent serious illness but based upon the sheer number of cases (which are just some percentage of infections), it would appear that there is no good protection against infection.
 

correcaminos

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It would appear that neither prior infection nor vaccination are very effective in preventing infection from Omicron. Both may very well help to prevent serious illness but based upon the sheer number of cases (which are just some percentage of infections), it would appear that there is no good protection against infection.
Boosters are showing 75% in an article just posted here recently. I'd say that's good and pretty effective. Delta to Omicron isn't strong. We have no data really on Omicron preventing reinfection of omicron. So both of your statements are not entirely factual and neither do anything to answer the question.
 

DisneyCane

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Boosters are showing 75% in an article just posted here recently. I'd say that's good and pretty effective. Delta to Omicron isn't strong. We have no data really on Omicron preventing reinfection of omicron. So both of your statements are not entirely factual and neither do anything to answer the question.
Not against infection. The 75% (for 10 weeks) is against symptomatic infection.
 

correcaminos

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Not against infection. The 75% (for 10 weeks) is against symptomatic infection.
Do you know what that actually means? It means no one is getting symptoms to need to test. Which does not equate to not working against the infection at all. The 10 week stuff is not a fact either as we do not have enougn data to prove one way or another. So please again stop with your antivax arguments. I'm honestly surprised you're here still posting away tbh. Doesn't it get old to try to put down science so much and to what end? Time for me to step away from posts like this.
 

DisneyDebRob

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IMO this is another step to help.
I’ll give this 10 minutes before the “ that’s not nearly enough”, “who’s going to pay for this” and “ it really won’t help” posts to start.
 

lisa12000

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All plan B restrictions to end in england - including WFH, vaccine passports and mask mandates including in the classroom, and the legal requirement to isolate to end at the latest March 24th but could be earlier (mask recommendations will remain but there will be no legal penalty for not wearing one anywhere)

That’s it for england in terms of restrictions for now and we weathered Christmas period without many. For all the crap ness of our govt atm for me one thing boris and the team got right.
 

mmascari

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I’ll give this 10 minutes before the “ that’s not nearly enough”, “who’s going to pay for this” and “ it really won’t help” posts to start.
10 minutes here or in general (twitter/pundits/news articles)?

For the latter, I think it was in the very same articles and was way less than 10 minutes on Twitter and from pundits. 😄

On the flip side, it's actually possible they listen to feedback and that this really is just a start. And everything needs to start somewhere. Can't change the past, but we can start to improve.


PS: Reminder for anyone that hasn't done it yet, order your free tests. Only takes 30 seconds to do it. Response and feedback to that should show if it works or not and if people want it or not. Leading to more of that type of response.

PPS: The analytics site showed 700,000 people all on the test site and the ordering page at the same time at several different times throughout the day yesterday. I cannot imagine supporting a web application scaling to that load. Imaging 700,000 people trying to post at the exact same time here. 😬 Looking right now, there's only 150,000 people on the order page right now. "only"
 

seascape

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IMO this is another step to help.
I’ll give this 10 minutes before the “ that’s not nearly enough”, “who’s going to pay for this” and “ it really won’t help” posts to start.
It doesnt hurt but if you look at the numbers in NY, NJ and FL they are dropping quickly. NJ already down just under 50%. By the time the free test kits arrive in February all 3 states will be much lower. As a whole the country is down from about 810k cases a day to 757k a day. That is a 7.4% drop nationally from the peak. However, I still like the idea of tests and masks, its just a little late to start.
 

DisneyDebRob

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10 minutes here or in general (twitter/pundits/news articles)?

For the latter, I think it was in the very same articles and was way less than 10 minutes on Twitter and from pundits. 😄

On the flip side, it's actually possible they listen to feedback and that this really is just a start. And everything needs to start somewhere. Can't change the past, but we can start to improve.


PS: Reminder for anyone that hasn't done it yet, order your free tests. Only takes 30 seconds to do it. Response and feedback to that should show if it works or not and if people want it or not. Leading to more of that type of response.

PPS: The analytics site showed 700,000 people all on the test site and the ordering page at the same time at several different times throughout the day yesterday. I cannot imagine supporting a web application scaling to that load. Imaging 700,000 people trying to post at the exact same time here. 😬 Looking right now, there's only 150,000 people on the order page right now. "only"
The Disney web sites can handle up to 10 people on before they crash so that is amazing! 😉
 

Chip Chipperson

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10 minutes here or in general (twitter/pundits/news articles)?

For the latter, I think it was in the very same articles and was way less than 10 minutes on Twitter and from pundits. 😄

On the flip side, it's actually possible they listen to feedback and that this really is just a start. And everything needs to start somewhere. Can't change the past, but we can start to improve.


PS: Reminder for anyone that hasn't done it yet, order your free tests. Only takes 30 seconds to do it. Response and feedback to that should show if it works or not and if people want it or not. Leading to more of that type of response.

PPS: The analytics site showed 700,000 people all on the test site and the ordering page at the same time at several different times throughout the day yesterday. I cannot imagine supporting a web application scaling to that load. Imaging 700,000 people trying to post at the exact same time here. 😬 Looking right now, there's only 150,000 people on the order page right now. "only"

If the site isn't crashing at that level of traffic then maybe Disney should try to poach some of the IT people who built it.
 

DisneyCane

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Do you know what that actually means? It means no one is getting symptoms to need to test. Which does not equate to not working against the infection at all. The 10 week stuff is not a fact either as we do not have enougn data to prove one way or another. So please again stop with your antivax arguments. I'm honestly surprised you're here still posting away tbh. Doesn't it get old to try to put down science so much and to what end? Time for me to step away from posts like this.
I'm not putting down science (whatever that means). I just don't ignore data and pretend that things do what they don't do.

Some people have become like college football fans arguing that their team should be ranked number one and are blind to any of the team's flaws.

The 10 week stuff is "fact" as much as anything can be so soon after Omicron appeared. I didn't make it up or cite some Looney tune on Facebook. It came from a SCIENTIFIC study in the UK. I'm elevating science, not putting it down.
 

DisneyCane

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IMO this is another step to help.
I’ll give this 10 minutes before the “ that’s not nearly enough”, “who’s going to pay for this” and “ it really won’t help” posts to start.
It will help people who want to wear them. Personally, I'd rather "risk" COVID as a vaccinated and boosted individual than walk around in an N95. The cloth masks are uncomfortable enough. I'm not wearing something that leaves indentations on my face if it is worn properly.

Whomever wants my 3 can have them!
 

dovetail65

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One word... Mandalorian ;)
And more.

I signed up for Disney+ first day and out of the entire family dad(me) that watches Disney+ most. I like it all, both old movies, new series and the nature shows.

As long as Disney pumps out the new shows like Mandalorian and they don't even need be that good, Disney+ will make it. I likes all the new series so far even the series with not so good reviews, I just eat them up.

Disney can survive if even one in ten people are like me, they just can't go a year without new content. I was Disney I would pump out a new series every 4 to 6 months(max). My only complaint is stop with the 6 or 10 episodes and just pump out 20 plus episode seasons.
 
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mmascari

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If only they also had the efficiency of Amazon to deliver items sooner
It took Amazon 15 days to deliver the test I ordered from them. In the process they also indicated it was delayed and then switched delivery carrier from Amazon to UPS on the last day, without providing the UPS tracking information. This was despite the Amazon driver coming to the house with other stuff the same day anyway. (Amazon stops at the house often, too often probably.)

If they can beat that bar, they're doing fine.


https://analytics.usa.gov/ is the site with the page usage stats for anyone who wants to see the server load. Yesterday a story said that at one point there were more people looking at the COVID Tests page than all other GOV pages combined. In the 7 and 30 day views, it's interesting that USPS is the most used site, followed by the CDC (for 30 days). At 7 days, COVID Tests has already passed the CDC, and it's in the top 10 on the 30 day chart too. That's a lot of people.
 

dovetail65

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It took Amazon 15 days to deliver the test I ordered from them. In the process they also indicated it was delayed and then switched delivery carrier from Amazon to UPS on the last day, without providing the UPS tracking information. This was despite the Amazon driver coming to the house with other stuff the same day anyway. (Amazon stops at the house often, too often probably.)

If they can beat that bar, they're doing fine.


https://analytics.usa.gov/ is the site with the page usage stats for anyone who wants to see the server load. Yesterday a story said that at one point there were more people looking at the COVID Tests page than all other GOV pages combined. In the 7 and 30 day views, it's interesting that USPS is the most used site, followed by the CDC (for 30 days). At 7 days, COVID Tests has already passed the CDC, and it's in the top 10 on the 30 day chart too. That's a lot of people.
I ordered the 4 free tests and had no issues at the https://www.covidtests.gov link.

It's a joke though, 4? Some households have 10 or more people in the home. I am guessing the less wall off a family is and the more difficult it is for them to get tested, the more people they have in the home. Better than nothing I guess. I'll probably take those 4 tests to FL since it seems getting tested there is tough. It amazes me that a place like FL that relies on tourism doesn't have the best system in the entire world in place for testing. FL should be a model for testing, not sure why they aren't. They just do not put their resources there I guess.

We are lucky, here in IL I can go online enter my information go take a test with less than a 5 minute wait and it's only 15 minutes from my home. I can also choose one of 3 different tests. Try going on Walgreens, CVS etc, they have 3 day waits, plus. Our county facility has from 10 to over 100 openings per day. The county sends the results to email in either an hour or 24 to 48 hours if you do the PCR test. So far between all of us in the home we have used our county 10 times(it is subcontracted) , never more than a 5min wait.

The at home tests are nice and we have done 4 so far (could only get my hands on 4 tests ordered and picked up same day at Walmart). Still, it is so convenient right now for us with the county facility and we know the results are going to be better.

As far as anyone saying the N95 hurt or leave mark and they will take their chances just vaccinated with no masks can only say that if they never had a family member on a ventilator or a friend die on one. They would never take that chance(well maybe they would and do) saying the N95 band hurts I am not wearing it after seeing 2 months of suffering for the person to die anyhow and yeah, from omicron. If they can see that and still not wear an N95 based on comfort, well I don't know what to think about that. The ratio of positive tests to deaths may be lower, BUT 1700 people a day are still dying, the same as under Delta. I guess the population is so numb to it.

Here is a story that makes me so proud. I wake up this morning and go to say goodbye to my 20 year old, he is off to the second day of a new job at his school. He has one of my real 3M N95 masks on that I still have from before Covid. These masks are tight as hell and he has an Afro for the most part so it is really tight. It looks so tight, but dam no air is getting past the sides of this thing.

I say, here is a new style N95 you can wear this mask it is still an N95, it is more comfortable and not as tight. You know what the kid says to me. Well I am not feeling well and I don't want to get anyone sick. This blew my mind. My 20 year old didn't say yeah give me the mask that is more comfortable, it's still an N95. He doesn't say I do not want to get sick. His entire mindset was that he didn't want to get anyone else sick! You can try to teach that, but for the most part that is empathy gained through out a person's life. If every single person in the USA thought this way there is a good chance Covid would already be beat.

I am bragging again. I am so proud of him, a 20 year old son of a Conservative Republican still thinking about others before himself, not his personal rights, not comfort and not if he will get sick, but about others. So my day started out good!
 
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