Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[dovetail65]

It took Amazon 15 days to deliver the test I ordered from them. In the process they also indicated it was delayed and then switched delivery carrier from Amazon to UPS on the last day, without providing the UPS tracking information. This was despite the Amazon driver coming to the house with other stuff the same day anyway. (Amazon stops at the house often, too often probably.)

If they can beat that bar, they're doing fine.


https://analytics.usa.gov/ is the site with the page usage stats for anyone who wants to see the server load. Yesterday a story said that at one point there were more people looking at the COVID Tests page than all other GOV pages combined. In the 7 and 30 day views, it's interesting that USPS is the most used site, followed by the CDC (for 30 days). At 7 days, COVID Tests has already passed the CDC, and it's in the top 10 on the 30 day chart too. That's a lot of people.

I ordered the 4 free tests and had no issues at the https://www.covidtests.gov link.

It's a joke though, 4? Some households have 10 or more people in the home. I am guessing the less wall off a family is and the more difficult it is for them to get tested, the more people they have in the home. Better than nothing I guess. I'll probably take those 4 tests to FL since it seems getting tested there is tough. It amazes me that a place like FL that relies on tourism doesn't have the best system in the entire world in place for testing. FL should be a model for testing, not sure why they aren't. They just do not put their resources there I guess.

We are lucky, here in IL I can go online enter my information go take a test with less than a 5 minute wait and it's only 15 minutes from my home. I can also choose one of 3 different tests. Try going on Walgreens, CVS etc, they have 3 day waits, plus. Our county facility has from 10 to over 100 openings per day. The county sends the results to email in either an hour or 24 to 48 hours if you do the PCR test. So far between all of us in the home we have used our county 10 times(it is subcontracted) , never more than a 5min wait.

The at home tests are nice and we have done 4 so far (could only get my hands on 4 tests ordered and picked up same day at Walmart). Still, it is so convenient right now for us with the county facility and we know the results are going to be better.

As far as anyone saying the N95 hurt or leave mark and they will take their chances just vaccinated with no masks can only say that if they never had a family member on a ventilator or a friend die on one. They would never take that chance(well maybe they would and do) saying the N95 band hurts I am not wearing it after seeing 2 months of suffering for the person to die anyhow and yeah, from omicron. If they can see that and still not wear an N95 based on comfort, well I don't know what to think about that. The ratio of positive tests to deaths may be lower, BUT 1700 people a day are still dying, the same as under Delta. I guess the population is so numb to it.

Here is a story that makes me so proud. I wake up this morning and go to say goodbye to my 20 year old, he is off to the second day of a new job at his school. He has one of my real 3M N95 masks on that I still have from before Covid. These masks are tight as hell and he has an Afro for the most part so it is really tight. It looks so tight, but dam no air is getting past the sides of this thing.

I say, here is a new style N95 you can wear this mask it is still an N95, it is more comfortable and not as tight. You know what the kid says to me. Well I am not feeling well and I don't want to get anyone sick. This blew my mind. My 20 year old didn't say yeah give me the mask that is more comfortable, it's still an N95. He doesn't say I do not want to get sick. His entire mindset was that he didn't want to get anyone else sick! You can try to teach that, but for the most part that is empathy gained through out a person's life. If every single person in the USA thought this way there is a good chance Covid would already be beat.

I am bragging again. I am so proud of him, a 20 year old son of a Conservative Republican still thinking about others before himself, not his personal rights, not comfort and not if he will get sick, but about others. So my day started out good!

 

[maui2k7]

Biden administration to ship free 400 million N95 masks across the US starting this week

The Biden administration plans to begin shipping free masks this week, making them available late next week, as the omicron surge breaks records.

amp.usatoday.com

IMO this is another step to help.
I’ll give this 10 minutes before the “ that’s not nearly enough”, “who’s going to pay for this” and “ it really won’t help” posts to sta

Help what?

At this point everyone is going to get exposed eventually to Omicron and delivering n95 masks in late January will be past the peak. This should have been planned for a long time ago and not after the barn doors were let open. If these were all made available in November and replenished frequently so everyone can use a new one daily, yes we would have limited the pressure on hospitals. At this point, this is too little too late.

 

[Nubs70]

Not against infection. The 75% (for 10 weeks) is against symptomatic infection.

mRNA vaccines do not block Omicron

 

[DisneyCane]

Help what?

At this point everyone is going to get exposed eventually to Omicron and delivering n95 masks in late January will be past the peak. This should have been planned for a long time ago and not after the barn doors were let open. If these were all made available in November and replenished frequently so everyone can use a new one daily, yes we would have limited the pressure on hospitals. At this point, this is too little too late.

The silver lining is that people can stock up before the next variant wave. Most places are already past the Omicron peak. By the end of January it is likely that most are almost done with the Omicron wave. By mid February NY, NJ, FL and the other states that started around the same time should be back to pre-Omicron daily cases.

 

[maui2k7]

The silver lining is that people can stock up before the next variant wave. Most places are already past the Omicron peak. By the end of January it is likely that most are almost done with the Omicron wave. By mid February NY, NJ, FL and the other states that started around the same time should be back to pre-Omicron daily cases.

Three masks per person max is not much of a stockpile as they are disposable and should not be reused. They need a lot more every week if they want people to build a useful stockpile.

 

[dovetail65]

Help what?

At this point everyone is going to get exposed eventually to Omicron and delivering n95 masks in late January will be past the peak. This should have been planned for a long time ago and not after themore pole that un de del barn doors were let open. If these were all made available in November and replenished frequently so everyone can use a new one daily, yes we would have limited the pressure on hospitals. At this point, this is too little too late.

It still helps and it is NOT too late, that shows a fundamental misunderstanding on how to keep our population safe from a virus that mutates. I am glad we didn't have that attitude with Polio or WW2, both we were losing badly at one point.


So under this thought we do nothing? So what happens when next week the next Covid mutation kills us ten times faster? Then we need start the mask and vaccination machine again? We need start getting people used to wearing N95 again? Then try to convince everyone yet again we need vaccinations and N95's? NO this is an ongoing battle until the experts say we have won or we have a vaccine regimen that stops 1700 people a day dying. Something done is always better than nothing done, we do not give up.

The masks and vaccination habits the Fed Gov are trying to get us to adhere to are just as much for the next mutation than what has already or is happening now.

The too little too late that even some experts talk about is ridiculous and for the most part taken out of context,. We need get everyone in the habits and have the equipment available in our hands NOW for the next wave. There is uncertainty, and getting ready and staying prepared can't harm anyone, being unprepared and going back to old ways because we lost one battle can end up killing even more millions.

 

[maui2k7]

For some light hearted humor... This is available for purchase on Amazon - LOL... Oscar Mayer Face Mask

 

[DCBaker]

New COVID-19 testing location has opened at the Maingate Complex -

“The temporary testing site will be located in the Maingate Complex at 3020 Maingate Lane in Kissimmee, off U.S. 192 just west of Interstate 4.

The site will offer free rapid antigen and PCR testing seven days a week from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. To get a test here, you must schedule an appointment with Northshore Clinical Labs on its website.”

New COVID-19 testing site to open in Kissimmee

Osceola County will open a new COVID-19 testing site on Wednesday.

www.clickorlando.com

 

[dovetail65]

New COVID-19 testing location has opened at the Maingate Complex -

“The temporary testing site will be located in the Maingate Complex at 3020 Maingate Lane in Kissimmee, off U.S. 192 just west of Interstate 4.

The site will offer free rapid antigen and PCR testing seven days a week from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. To get a test here, you must schedule an appointment with Northshore Clinical Labs on its website.”

New COVID-19 testing site to open in Kissimmee

Osceola County will open a new COVID-19 testing site on Wednesday.

www.clickorlando.com

Thanks, who knows I may need it next month. I am boostered up and so far haven't gotten Covid from my daughter or her boyfriend which to my mind prove the N95 work. So far so good with me testing negative and she is already testing negative., so I how we are out fo the woods in this house.

Traveling on a plane and then a fun filled month at Disney where the employees apparently don't even need be vaccinated now(that really irks me), I may get it, who knows. At least this place is only a 12 min drive for testing.

 

[Kevin_W]

mRNA vaccines do not block Omicron

They do not work as well as against previous strains, but they do still work. Particularly high against hospitalization, but still a god ratio vs symptomatic disease at all.

 

[JoeCamel]

Three masks per person max is not much of a stockpile as they are disposable and should not be reused. They need a lot more every week if they want people to build a useful stockpile.

What makes you think the manufacturer's can produce unlimited masks to be given away? YoOu might want a "stockpile" for yourself but then we are back to the TP thing.

 

[mkt]

mRNA vaccines do not block Omicron

Vaccines don't block viruses. They're not brick walls.

They just provide your body with the training to fight severe illness.

Saying that, Pfizer expects an omicron specific vaccine by March, and Moderna's not far behind.

 

[dovetail65]

They do not work as well as against previous strains, but they do still work. Particularly high against hospitalization, but still a god ratio vs symptomatic disease at all.

Why do people keep saying mRNA are not effective agsint Omicron, when they are as good as it gets for right now.



This study I believe is only SEVEN DAYS OLD so believe that mRNA does nothing against Omicron and the people that think that can argue with the scientific studies if they want, it's silly. I have to go with the experts, not someone on a newscast. This was something I pointed out to dad a couple days ago when he said the same thing to me about mRNA not working against Omicron. I mean yeah a targeted Vaccine would be better and lab results are lab results, still it's the best information we have so far:

• A recent study shows that two doses of mRNA (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) or one dose of viral vector (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccines were insufficient to produce adequate immunity to a lab-created Omicron variant or pseudovirus.
• The Omicron pseudovirus infected cells at a higher rate than other pseudovirus variants.
• The results demonstrated a booster dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine provided the best immune protection from the Omicron pseudovirus.

Omicron: mRNA booster vaccine offers best protection

A new lab study finds that a booster dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine provides the best protection from the Omicron pseudovirus.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

 

[maui2k7]

What makes you think the manufacturer's can produce unlimited masks to be given away? YoOu might want a "stockpile" for yourself but then we are back to the TP thing.

I don't think there will be an unending supply for free from the manufacturers. I do not plan on stockpiling any masks.

 

[DisneyCane]

Vaccines don't block viruses. They're not brick walls.

They just provide your body with the training to fight severe illness.

Saying that, Pfizer expects an omicron specific vaccine by March, and Moderna's not far behind.

Prior to COVID-19, when has this ever been said about a vaccine? When kids get vaccinated, does the pediatrician say, "this is to make sure they don't get a severe case of measles?"

I'm having trouble finding the quotes from Dr. Salk about protecting people from severe cases of Polio.

 

[danlb_2000]

mRNA vaccines do not block Omicron

mRNA vaccines do reduce the chance of infection. Not as much as against previous variants but they do help.

 

[drizgirl]

Why do people keep saying mRNA are not effective agsint Omicron, when they are as good as it gets for right now.



This is SEVEN DAYS OLD so believe the mRNA does nothing against Omicron and argue with the scientific studies if you want, it's silly. I have to go with the experts, not someone on a newscast. This was something I pointed out to a couple days ago when he said the same thing to me about mRNA not working against Omicron. I mean yeah a targeted Vaccine would be better, still:

• A recent study shows that two doses of mRNA (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) or one dose of viral vector (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccines were insufficient to produce adequate immunity to a lab-created Omicron variant or pseudovirus.
• The Omicron pseudovirus infected cells at a higher rate than other pseudovirus variants.
• The results demonstrated a booster dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine provided the best immune protection from the Omicron pseudovirus.

Omicron: mRNA booster vaccine offers best protection

A new lab study finds that a booster dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine provides the best protection from the Omicron pseudovirus.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

We are 8 days post WDW/Universal trip and have stayed healthy (vaxxed and boostered). My friend and her family who were all vaccinated but not boosted (and didn't go to Disney) are all recovering from Covid. My friend got very sick and went to the ER yesterday (although was not admitted).

Anecdotal of course, but consistent with the boosters making a big difference.

Well, I guess I should say my friend and her husband both were boostered, just too late since they came down with symptoms one day post booster.

 

[danlb_2000]

Prior to COVID-19, when has this ever been said about a vaccine? When kids get vaccinated, does the pediatrician say, "this is to make sure they don't get a severe case of measles?"

I'm having trouble finding the quotes from Dr. Salk about protecting people from severe cases of Polio.

This has always been said about the Flu vaccine. Never heard anyone say that the Flu vaccine will 100% prevent infection.

 

[danlb_2000]

Prior to COVID-19, when has this ever been said about a vaccine? When kids get vaccinated, does the pediatrician say, "this is to make sure they don't get a severe case of measles?"

I'm having trouble finding the quotes from Dr. Salk about protecting people from severe cases of Polio.

This is also one of the classic anti-vaxer talking points. "They changed the definition of vaccine since this one doesn't prevent infection".

 

[Touchdown]

This has always been said about the Flu vaccine. Never heard anyone say that the Flu vaccine will 100% prevent infection.

And Pneumonia vaccine. Respiratory infections are just too common. It really is the easiest access point for an infection to take hold in humans.