Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[sullyinMT]

In very rural areas the issue is twofold. One, people live very spread out which makes it that even if you have the same per Capita healthcare capacity a lot of the population is very far from the provider.

The second issue is getting high quality providers to work in very rural areas.

For specialists you always have to go to the larger towns. There's not going to be a cardiology practice in a town of 1000 people.

Or even in my town/city of 170k, my son sees the one pediatric nephrologist. We’re lucky that she’s capable and that we know to be advocates for him. And that she consults regularly with Seattle Children’s very capable team.

Often, even when there are specialists, people must accept what they get and not pitch a fit.

I’m not alone with my awesome coworkers in enjoying the better work life balance of a smaller program. But the pay would be much better even in a place like Sioux Falls, SD, and the Sanford system. And that does make recruiting replacements very difficult.

 

[Lilofan]

That simply isn’t true. EMTALA requires any CMS participating hospital to provide an appropriate emergency medical screening and administer stabilization care if required. Hospitals can, and do, deny care regularly to those not needing emergency stabilization.

Not exactly. Privately owned hospitals may deny but not public funded tax payer expense hospitals cannot deny care. I should have been more specific ( in emergencies ) in my previous post in which hospitals not denying care.

 

[Lilofan]

I love how people state unequivocal facts that they have no way of knowing. My Mom's primary care doctor had COVID in April 2020. When the vaccines were first made available in December 2020, he had his antibodies tested and the test was positive. He decided not to get vaccinated while the supply was constrained so that he didn't use a dose that somebody else needed. He continued to regularly be tested for antibodies and was still positive in April 2021. He got vaccinated shortly thereafter when supply was no longer an issue.

Stating that natural antibodies don't last more than about six months is 100% false in at least some cases. How do you know the guy in the video wasn't tested for antibodies the day before?

Are you kidding that he knowingly had Covid in April 2020, and did not get the vaccine in December 2020 as a doctor and do you mean to say he kept practicing and in contact with people until April 2021 when he got the shot? He as a doctor should have taken steps to get vaccinated as early as December 2020 to protect himself and others he came in contact with. I don't buy the doctor excuse to defer not getting vaccinated when the vaccine was available to health care staff beginning late last year.

 

[Lilofan]

Another good point actually. It’s more akin to whatever stadium the Jets and Giants are sharing these days, if vaccines are required there (I’m not a big NFL guy). Or Yankee Stadium/Citi Field.

Add NFL stadiums- Seattle, Las Vegas, Buffalo, New Orleans , vaccine proof required to enter sports stadium.

 

[Timmay]

Not exactly. Privately owned hospitals may deny but not public funded tax payer expense hospitals cannot deny care. I should have been more specific ( in emergencies ) in my previous post in which hospitals not denying care.

You’re still not correct. I would highly suggest going to the CMS website and reading about EMTALA. It has nothing to do with private vs. “public funded” hospitals. It applies to hospitals that participate in Medicare/Medicaid reimbursement.

 

[seascape]

Florida for the second staight day is at 264. Hopefully this indicates Florida reached its peak. The country though is still going up and it at 195. NY is at 362 and NJ is at 351. NYC is at 470 and Essex Couny NJ is 451. These are horrible numbers. In fact for those who claimed NY and NJ with their restrictions are the way should consider NY's 7 day average number of cases per 100k is 37% higher than Florida and the current average death rate in NY is 5 times higher in NY than Florida. Something is very wrong here and to give you one example, one of my friends Aunt now has her second covid19. She had her first prior to the vaccine coming out, she was vaccinated and boosted. She had no problems with her first case but now is on O2 and has lung damage.

 

[DisneyFan32]

Here’s some good news for 2022: this could be the year the pandemic comes to an end | Raghib Ali

Reduced hospital admissions, new medicines and stronger vaccines are reasons for real optimism, says clinical epidemiologist Raghib Ali

www.theguardian.com

 

[seascape]

Another terrible statistic that proves we are not handling Covid19 correctly is that 7.62% of all Covid19 cases were in the last 7 day. Covid19 has been here for 2 years or 104 weeks. Yes, that shows the great job the CDC is doing.

 

[JoeCamel]

Yes, that shows the great job the CDC PEOPLE ARE doing.

 

[correcaminos]

Kid woke up with mild sore arm but slept fine.

Another terrible statistic that proves we are not handling Covid19 correctly is that 7.62% of all Covid19 cases were in the last 7 day. Covid19 has been here for 2 years or 104 weeks. Yes, that shows the great job the CDC is doing.

CDC? Ha! People are the ones messing up. Most of your posts have been negative on cases and you really think the CDC is to blame? People suck royally. End of story.

 

[carolina_yankee]

Are you kidding that he knowingly had Covid in April 2020, and did not get the vaccine in December 2020 as a doctor and do you mean to say he kept practicing and in contact with people until April 2021 when he got the shot? He as a doctor should have taken steps to get vaccinated as early as December 2020 to protect himself and others he came in contact with. I don't buy the doctor excuse to defer not getting vaccinated when the vaccine was available to health care staff beginning late last year.

@DisneyCane said that his doctor continually tested for antibodies and had them so he waited to be vaccinated while vaccinations supplies were limited. When vaccines started becoming more prevalent and it was further out from his covid encounter, he got vaccinated. He used science. He had antibodies and used that as his determiner. If he violated a rule, that's a different argument, but he was neither anti-vax nor unconcerned for his health or the health of his patients. He made sure he had protection (the antibodies).

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Are you kidding that he knowingly had Covid in April 2020, and did not get the vaccine in December 2020 as a doctor and do you mean to say he kept practicing and in contact with people until April 2021 when he got the shot? He as a doctor should have taken steps to get vaccinated as early as December 2020 to protect himself and others he came in contact with. I don't buy the doctor excuse to defer not getting vaccinated when the vaccine was available to health care staff beginning late last year.

My primary care doctor told me he wasn’t vaccinated last summer when I asked him about my concerns with the vaccine. He works for a major healthcare / hospital system in my area.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Florida for the second staight day is at 264. Hopefully this indicates Florida reached its peak. The country though is still going up and it at 195. NY is at 362 and NJ is at 351. NYC is at 470 and Essex Couny NJ is 451. These are horrible numbers. In fact for those who claimed NY and NJ with their restrictions are the way should consider NY's 7 day average number of cases per 100k is 37% higher than Florida and the current average death rate in NY is 5 times higher in NY than Florida. Something is very wrong here and to give you one example, one of my friends Aunt now has her second covid19. She had her first prior to the vaccine coming out, she was vaccinated and boosted. She had no problems with her first case but now is on O2 and has lung damage.

What restrictions does NJ have? Masks in schools and State buildings and on public transportation (which is nationwide). In the past couple of weeks, a handful of cities/towns in northern NJ have implemented mask mandates on their own, but the overwhelming majority of places (both in North Jersey and the rest of the state) have no such mandates. All our governor has done for months now is say, "Nothing is off the table," over and over without actually doing anything. I think he thinks that vague threat will either scare people I to being responsible or provide him cover for sitting on the fence.

 

[carolina_yankee]

Covid appears to have run through nearly every family in my congregation at this point (all vaccinated). Generally mild symptoms. No evidence of at-church spread so masking works. However, the COVID disruption is telling. Schools are open but one COVID teen said only four people were in-person in his classes. Our after school tutoring program is canceled until February becuase volunteers won't come in and only a tiny handful of students were able to come.

It simply doesn't matter what people think about open or close - sick people can't perform and when they are sick at huge levels you basically can't tell the different between open and close.

I've been averaging 80 on-site for worship lately and I'm preparing for 10 tomorrow. Quite frankly, that's why we're not going online only. With smaller numbers in a big space, people feel safe! But if I get sick, we're closed.

So, no Disney or in-person dining for me!

 

[carolina_yankee]

Ok... so you don’t think broadway shows should be running?

Many of them are having a hard time opening each night. Understudies have understudies who have understudies. It's hard to pull all of that off at a level that the audience expects.

Also, I believe the Met is no requiring everyone to be boosted, not just double-vaxed, in order to attend. You might get away with acting if you feel poorly, but you're not singing.

 

[Jrb1979]

Covid appears to have run through nearly every family in my congregation at this point (all vaccinated). Generally mild symptoms. No evidence of at-church spread so masking works. However, the COVID disruption is telling. Schools are open but one COVID teen said only four people were in-person in his classes. Our after school tutoring program is canceled until February becuase volunteers won't come in and only a tiny handful of students were able to come.

It simply doesn't matter what people think about open or close - sick people can't perform and when they are sick at huge levels you basically can't tell the different between open and close.

I've been averaging 80 on-site for worship lately and I'm preparing for 10 tomorrow. Quite frankly, that's why weren't not closing. With smaller numbers in a big space, people feel safe!

Agreed, there is no reason to close things. People also have to stay home when sick. The other problem is people have quickly decided the no longer like their personal space.

 

[Andrew C]

 

[correcaminos]

Sounds great for the globe

 

[Shellyl64]

Sounds great for the globe

These people sound like people who really care about others. Let’s just hope Big Pharma doesn’t come out against them in the name of money.

 

[Incomudro]

What restrictions does NJ have? Masks in schools and State buildings and on public transportation (which is nationwide). In the past couple of weeks, a handful of cities/towns in northern NJ have implemented mask mandates on their own, but the overwhelming majority of places (both in North Jersey and the rest of the state) have no such mandates. All our governor has done for months now is say, "Nothing is off the table," over and over without actually doing anything. I think he thinks that vague threat will either scare people I to being responsible or provide him cover for sitting on the fence.

I don't envy the position any governor is in: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
As a NJ resident, who voted for Murphy's opponents both times - I actually like Murphy's efforts on this.
He was very prudent and cautious when things first broke out - actually went too far for me then, closing parks and other outdoor areas - but, at the time who really knew what we were dealing with and how bad things would get?
So, though I didn't like all of what he did... I understood.
Since then, and since things have remained manageable - he has loosened restrictions and keeps an eye on things.
If things get out of control, he'll put those things that are on the table into action.
If not, he'll carry on as we are.