Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Chomama]

Which U.S. States Meet Recommended Positivity Levels? - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

The WHO has said in countries with expansive testing, the range for positivity is between 3-12%. Which states are testing enough to meet this goal?

coronavirus.jhu.edu

Thx!

 

[Patcheslee]

Beginning Jan 4th Indiana will begin limiting rapid testing at state run sites to symptomatic people under 18 or symptomatic people over 50.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Interesting new study, not yet peer reviewed.

Covid Science: Virus leaves antibodies that may attack healthy tissues

The following is a summary of some recent studies on COVID-19. They include research that warrants further study to corroborate the findings and that has yet to be certified by peer review.

www.reuters.com

 

[Kevin_W]

I'd posted a few pages back about visiting Disneyland on New Years. Well, guess who came home with a nice Covid infection. (Though from the incubation period, it's likely I picked it up before visiting DL).

I'm mildly irritated, as th ewhole time we were in CA we lived in KN95 masks, used copious sanitizer, and I've had 3 shots of Moderna. I guess the good news form the shots is that so far I've only got a low fever, nausea, and a mild cough. I hope that's it and that my wife and daughter don't get it (both negative on rapid antigen so far).

 

[Bullseye1967]

ER doc in Philadelphia. Full thread at bottom, but a couple key tweets.

Sorry to tell you but this guy may be a great doc but he has an agenda. When I see things like :
1) Hospitalized for Covid: mostly unvaxxed or elderly/chronic ill & unboosted"
It gets my BS thoughts up. Did he miss the category of healthy people who are vaccinated but not boosted.

We have 3 categories here.
1. Unvaccinated
2. Chronically Ill
3. Unboosted

What about Vaccinated and not boosted? What about Chronically Ill that are vaccinated?

 

[Kevin_W]

Quality stuff. Great to hear an intelligent field report from the front lines. We really gotta get testing sorted out so people aren't going to the friggin ER for a covid test. What a travesty.

I cannot believe that we're back to early-2020 levels of test availability. I was a clear positive on an Abbot antigen test, but wanted ot schedule a PCR just to confirm. It's 5-8 days out around here for scheduling.

 

[seascape]

You're correct. Both NY and NJ will tax you on income earned in their state. If you live in NJ but work in NYC, you pay taxes in NJ, NY, and NYC. NJ and PA used to have an agreement related to taxes paid by residents who worked in the other state, but it ended a few years ago because they each felt like the other state was getting the better end of the deal. I don't believe they ever renegotiated a new deal but I could be wrong.

I was talking about retired citizens. It does not matter what state a person earned a pension from or their IRA or 401K. The taxes are due to the state you live in. Same is true for money earned from any investment, dividends and stock capital gains. Now, as for sale of a home, that is subject to the capital gain in the state you sell the property regardless of where you live. NJ lets seniors with incones up to $100,000 pay no state income tax, but hit $100,001 in income and you are taxed the full amount. It really isn't hard to have that if you are retired and have a pension or both husband and wife worked.

Now on to today's dreadful numbers accrding to the NY Times. The US reported 1,003,043 new cases in single day! That is bad enough, but it does not include any of Florida's 85,707 cases the Miami Herald said Florida reported on Monday. Anyway, NY is now at 340 per 100k, NJ is at 308 and Florisa according tl the Miami Herald is at an average number od cases of 53,195 a day or 248 per 100k.

 

[Willmark]

We should make it harder for the unvaccinated to move about and live normally. They are the sole reason we are still dealing with this bullcrap.

Sure and when we’re done you have no issue applying this practice to other diseases, no?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sure and when we’re done you have no issue applying this practice to other diseases, no?

It’s already applied to other diseases.

 

[DisneyFan32]

'Very unsettling': Scientists see troubling signs in humans spreading Covid to deer

The findings are a reminder that human health is intertwined with that of animals and that inattention to other species could prolong the pandemic.

www.nbcnews.com

Looks like Bambi will getting ran away for this nor Santa will not need another reindeers for next Christmas.

 

[DisneyFan32]

COVID Omicron News: Pediatric cases rise, scientists study new French variant

Scientists are tracking a new variant in southern France where at least 12 people have been infected. Doctors are calling it a "highly mutated" variant.

abc7ny.com

ARE YOU MICKEY MOUSE KIDDING ME! Another new variant was found in France?! No way! I hope it's less dangerous than other variants like Delta and Omicron.

 

[Bob Harlem]

COVID Omicron News: Pediatric cases rise, scientists study new French variant

Scientists are tracking a new variant in southern France where at least 12 people have been infected. Doctors are calling it a "highly mutated" variant.

abc7ny.com

ARE YOU MICKEY MOUSE KIDDING ME! Another new variant was found in France?! No way! I hope it's less dangerous than other variants like Delta and Omicron.

That one predates Omicron and is already smothered out. I.e.e B.1.640.2 actually predates Omicron - in all that time there are exactly... 20 sequenced cases (compared to the >120k Omicrons in less time) First one was Nov 4 (Before Omicron) Last one was Dec 6, before the omicron wave. I wouldn't worry about this at all.

 

[DisneyCane]

It’s already applied to other diseases.

Which ones and for what except enrolling in school or international travel?

As far as I know there is no other disease for which vaccination is required for any typical activity. Has there ever been a vaccination required for an adult to get in order to be able to go to restaurant?

 

[Roy G. Dis]

The case counts are jaw dropping but the sooner we move on to discussing another metric the better. Even hospitalizations don't seem to tell much of a story as people are going to the hospital and getting over Covid before they even really get seen.

I don't have the answer as to what metric should replace it right now.

Deaths is the ultimate truth but lags too far from today's reporting.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Which ones and for what except enrolling in school or international travel?

As far as I know there is no other disease for which vaccination is required for any typical activity. Has there ever been a vaccination required for an adult to get in order to be able to go to restaurant?

There is no need for anything else because the school requirements result in something like 90%+ getting vaccinated.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The case counts are jaw dropping but the sooner we move on to discussing another metric the better. Even hospitalizations don't seem to tell much of a story as people are going to the hospital and getting over Covid before they even really get seen.

I don't have the answer as to what metric should replace it right now.

Deaths is the ultimate truth but lags too far from today's reporting.

The hospitalization count doesn't include people sent home. So, it's a pretty reliable metric of serious illness from COVID. The fact that the hospitalization rate is increasing lets us know that the spike in cases isn't a fluke.

And, I've said it many times before: there's a failure of government on many levels and in many administrations/parties that there is not randomized testing of the population to gauge what's really happening with number of infections.

We'll know in a week what the effect of the case and hospital spikes will have on the death rate.

 

[Willmark]

It’s already applied to other diseases.

Rounding them up and restricting travel?

Given the propensity for posts getting reported and/or deleted I danced around it.

Let’s expand it then: if people are fine with restricting travel (which sounds like a ban on movement), next step after that doesn’t work? (because it sure doesn’t look like it has. Or perhaps we need to lock things down even more?)

So next step is denying care, right? It’s been mentioned here in this very thread before. After all, it’s only a pandemic of the unvaccinated? Surely it’s the right strategy? Person didn’t get the vaccine then they should be made to deal with the consequences of their choices? And if that’s the case we should apply the same standard to other diseases?

(I give this post about ~10 minutes before it’s reported).

 

[Polkadotdress]

I cannot believe that we're back to early-2020 levels of test availability. I was a clear positive on an Abbot antigen test, but wanted ot schedule a PCR just to confirm. It's 5-8 days out around here for scheduling.

Not sure what state you're in, but down here in FL it's the same. I stood in line for 8 hours recently for a PCR test at a county site. Do you have any of those available in your area?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Rounding them up and restricting travel?

Given the propensity for posts getting reported and/or deleted I danced around it.

Let’s expand it then: if people are fine with restricting travel (which sounds like a ban on movement), next step after that doesn’t work? (because it sure doesn’t look like it has. Or perhaps we need to lock things down even more?)

So next step is denying care, right? It’s been mentioned here in this very thread before. After all, it’s only a pandemic of the unvaccinated? Surely it’s the right strategy? Person didn’t get the vaccine then they should be made to deal with the consequences of their choices? And if that’s the case we should apply the same standard to other diseases?

(I give this post about ~10 minutes before it’s reported).

1. Who is being "rounded up?"

2. As another poster already stated, vaccination requirements for school cover so many people that there is no need for vaccine passports for things like concerts for other diseases.

3. Depending on where you are traveling, you DO need to have certain vaccinations in order to travel internationally.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Rounding them up and restricting travel?

Given the propensity for posts getting reported and/or deleted I danced around it.

Let’s expand it then: if people are fine with restricting travel (which sounds like a ban on movement), next step after that doesn’t work? (because it sure doesn’t look it has.)

So next step is denying care right? It’s been mentioned here in this very thread before. After all, it’s only a pandemic of the unvaccinated? Surely it’s right strategy? Person didn’t get the vaccine they should be made to deal with the consequences of their choices? And if that’s the case we should apply the same standard to other diseases?

(I give this post about ~10 minutes before it’s reported).

The only people talking about rounding anyone up is people like you, who are so aghast at the idea but had no problem with the idea of “rounding up” and isolating the vulnerable. It was a great idea when it was others being “rounded up,” but isn’t so great now that it is you and yours.

If care is having to be rationed it tends to be focused on those with the best chances of survival. This also isn’t something new. The only person I’ve seen suggest just setting a cap on COVID admissions is part of the “let it rip” crowd.