WSJ: Even Disney Is Worried About The High Cost Of A Disney Vacation (gift link)

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
Wait until AI and hyper-targeting gets implemented (e.g., where two people, looking at the website at the same time, get quoted different prices based on what the server can infer about the visitor - income bracket, past purchases, geographic area). It’s already happening in retail.
Wait until AI can read your remaining credit balance by looking at your face.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Ordinary Guests see the extra special treatment that the Bought and Paid for Influencers and Grifters get that they don't.

The actual guest experience is not all cupcakes and pixie dust like the Instagram, TikTok, or Youtube shills make it out be.
Perhaps the word needs spread about this?


Maybe more air need not give to be given to every ex cp who didn’t want to go home or orlandite that decides they’re the next “insider”?

Let’s start here: don’t ask kids who are grabbing every tweet rumor and reposting it as “a scoop” to give “details” about something they are just parroting? It’s been happening more and more…

And also do “interview” them on your lame podcasts…to keep it from the 9 people who tune in…
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Can you imagine the surge pricing over Christmas and New Years? On top of the variable pricing they have in place?

You’re going to have to book a WDW vacation like DCL if you want the best “deals”
That’s where it gets fishy

Those times are not NEARLY as bad as they traditionally have been.

So if all of the sudden prices are jumping…what guarantee does any customer have that it’s not being arbitrarily?

Or to translate: can they resist not committing fraud?
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
Ordinary Guests see the extra special treatment that the Bought and Paid for Influencers and Grifters get that they don't.

The actual guest experience is not all cupcakes and pixie dust like the Instagram, TikTok, or Youtube shills make it out be.
What do mean grifters? You mean people like wdw pro?
 

monothingie

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop
Premium Member
What do mean grifters? You mean people like wdw pro?
The social media people whose livelihood relies on Disney to provide them special access, comps, and swag in exchange for swooning positive exposure on their platforms.

Pro gets his clicks by the exact opposite side, but he doesn’t have a global media company buying him off.
 

monothingie

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop
Premium Member
That’s where it gets fishy

Those times are not NEARLY as bad as they traditionally have been.

So if all of the sudden prices are jumping…what guarantee does any customer have that it’s not being arbitrarily?

Or to translate: can they resist not committing fraud?
Just like park reservations, LL, Premiere Pass, etc.

Crystal Ball GIF by Fall Out Boy
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I'm confused here. Isn't there dynamic/surge pricing for day tickets and room reservations already in place?

No - that’s just different prices - they are still fixed and published- hence predictable. Based on schedules- not current bookings.

Dynamic would be variable based on booking patterns and susceptible to lower predictability.

Nevermind the frustration that you maybe paying way more than someone else getting the same product
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
No - that’s just different prices - they are still fixed and published- hence predictable. Based on schedules- not current bookings.

Dynamic would be variable based on booking patterns and susceptible to lower predictability.

Nevermind the frustration that you maybe paying way more than someone else getting the same product
Okay, I understand now what is meant, thanks.

But... When Disney offers their usual discount rooms and I grab them immediately, I'm paying less for that than other guests that didn't grab the discount when it was offered.

It's almost like a reverse surge. The standard rack rate is a default surge in this case.

There are also deals on tickets at times. And people who buy more tickets at a time get discounts for each extra day. And APers who go often enough are paying a lot less for park entrance than those without AP.

The point being is that there are already lots of cases of people paying different amounts for the same thing.

And just some parallel points of information. Disney does surge pricing for the tickets to their Broadway shows (Disney pretty much invented Broadway surge pricing). And airlines use surge pricing. As do hotels.

Although, I think it works in Disney's favor to keep raising the base/default price and offering discounts when it behooves them as a sort of reverse-surge tactic. It becomes more palatable when people think they missed out on a limited-time discount than to find an upcharge surge fee as the cause of them paying more.
 

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