Sirwalterraleigh
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I don’t think you are interpreting developments correctly
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wouldn't this be the best time for construction on WDW?
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DVCakaCarlF
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What? Your telling me no one is going to cut the grass? Water plants? Touch up paint?
Disstevefan1
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We need a cast member to post here to get the real answer, but it seems to me construction (construction workers are NOT Disney cast members and are not paid by Disney) is much different from normal regular maintenance like landscaping and maybe painting done by Disney cast members. I would be surprised if this normal maintenance is stopped because letting stuff like that go causes MORE work later.
Would this be a GREAT time for fix all those little things wrong with existing attractions, YES! But stuff like this is for sure deemed NOT essential work.
Would this be a GREAT time for fix all those little things wrong with existing attractions, YES! But stuff like this is for sure deemed NOT essential work.
lazyboy97o
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Why would a Cast Member know? Construction is done by general contractors, not maintenance.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I don’t think we have any clue how far the “limits” are gonna go...at current time
Tom P.
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I think there is only so far the American people will tolerate. This is not China. We are not conditioned from birth to accept government limiting our freedoms, especially our freedom of association. That is so valued that it is enshrined as the very first amendment to the Constitution.
Right now, people are panicked and are, for the most part, listening to what their leaders and the experts are saying in terms of the kinds of extreme measures that are needed. But will that hold in a month? Two months? There comes a point at which, rightly or wrongly, the people are going to demand to be allowed to resume their lives, virus or no virus. There comes a point at which you just can't keep society shut down.
Now, when this comes to a business like Disney, the government has more latitude. And it would be easier to tell Disney that no maintenance crews can be out working than it would be to tell John Q. Public that he can't mow his own lawn. But, still, I think there is a point at which people will think the government is pushing too far. I can't imagine we will get to the point where Disney is not allowed to perform lawn maintenance on their property, for example. I could be wrong. But right now, I don't see that level of restriction being tolerated.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
This isn’t the right place for this...but unless we get really lucky, it’s not gonna matter where we are.
There have already been displays of “social disobedience” already that just look so silly the minute they Happen. And dangerous.
We should talk about this elsewhere/later I think.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I don’t fully trust Orlando biz journal...they are sketchy at best. It’s like believing Jim hill when he says a ride is “a go”...
But this doesn’t look like good news...for sure.
But this doesn’t look like good news...for sure.
DVCakaCarlF
Well-Known Member
I’m not familiar with Disney’s construction by any means, but, from my experience, there are huge financial implications by stopping contractors from working. Has Disney even commented on this news?
When the govt shutdown, all public work ceased because there was no supervision by govt employees. Furthermore, there were no penalties for delays, and, on top of it, the contractors could submit for “additional“ costs due to stopping and starting work.
If Disney’s contracts are anything like I think they are, they have equal or steeper terms.
I want to say this news cannot be entirely true.
When the govt shutdown, all public work ceased because there was no supervision by govt employees. Furthermore, there were no penalties for delays, and, on top of it, the contractors could submit for “additional“ costs due to stopping and starting work.
If Disney’s contracts are anything like I think they are, they have equal or steeper terms.
I want to say this news cannot be entirely true.
DVCakaCarlF
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I’ve reread the article, and, I have to agree, it’s not well written and doesn’t have any comment from Disney. Furthermore, it’s the only news agency reporting on the topic. Lastly, any article that spreads news about people not getting paid is just looking attention.
Again, I cannot believe it’s entirely true.
Tom Morrow
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As much as I'd love to see projects and repairs done during this closure, it's very clear that this is going to last much longer than what is comfortable. I'd rather them save every possible penny so the inevitable mass layoffs are minimized.
JustAFan
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Another source (Mike @BlogMickey) says, "Many guests have been wondering if some of the construction projects taking place around Walt Disney World will be finished or have a significant amount of progress when the parks will reopen. As it turns out, Disney will be halting construction during the theme park closures.
Our sources have indicated that projects such as the Tron Lightcycle Run, Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser Hotel, Cirque du Soleil’s Drawn to Life, large portions of the EPCOT overhaul, and more have been halted as construction workers are told to go home."
Djsfantasi
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The Construction industry actually has a high risk for transmittal of the virus. Some states / cities have stopped all construction for that reason.
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Sorry if I was not clear. I was speaking of the maintenance regularly by cast members and if a castmember could verify if that normal maintenance is still going on.
As for the contractors I presume that is halted at least for this 15 day period to flatten the curve.
Phonedave
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Unfortunately it is a damned if you do damned if you don't. Putting aside teh social distancing and slowing the spread reasons for shutting down construction for the moment.
If Disney stops construction to cut expenditures, and is able to save Disney jobs, that is great
However
By the same token, if Disney stops construction, a large number of construction workers are going to be out of work.
And once this thing clears up, anybody who owns a small business, works in any kind of construction, works retails, works a job where the majority of their paycheck comes from tips, or works in tourism is not going to have the money to go to WDW anytime soon, so Disney can assume that revenue stream is going to dry up.
It's not going to be good no matter how you slice it.
-dave
Nubs70
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At this point, any business, large or small, needs to preserve capital by managing cash flow. If cash intake is dramatically reduced, then cash outflow needs to be slashed accordingly. The quicker reductions in cash outflow (labor, material, overhead) can be done, the more cash available gives more time to ride out the storm on the horizon.
Labor reductions in all businesses, while painful, must happen in order to have a viable business to return to when this situation resolves.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
OBJ has been wrong a lot in the past. That doesn’t mean I would dismiss them out of hand...they seem right here...but skepticism is warranted and ok
DVCakaCarlF
Well-Known Member
The fact that this article is being quoted as scripture is part of the problem. American Business Journals is a paid subscription service, and, anything exciting is going to get clicks.
I wouldn’t consider them an original source.
World_Showcase_Lover007
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Probably can’t get a steady supply line of construction materials. Most materials arent just sitting around on a pallet, they are ordered and delivered with each phase, as needed. If I have to pay each construction worker $150/day, I don’t want to risk them showing up with no materials to work with.
Ok, I actually have no idea how construction work operates, but this seems like the logical process. Plus I’ve seen This Old House a few times
Ok, I actually have no idea how construction work operates, but this seems like the logical process. Plus I’ve seen This Old House a few times