Would you like a Cake Help Thread?

Would you like a Disney cake help/talk thread?


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sweetpee_1993

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I've ordered/received custom cakes twice. ((You know that, @HouCuseChickie ;) )) The first tasted pretty blah and was a thematic mess. And it came from the bakery at the Contmeporary which I've seen so many amazing cakes come from. I was so sorely disappointed on that one. Second cake, from the bakery at Y&B Club, was much prettier and a fantastic representation of what I sketched & described. The taste, however, was good not great. It's my understanding that the bakeries use a traditional buttercream recipe when you order buttercream. Traditional buttercream is different from the American-ized super-sweet-n-creamy version we associate with that name. It's got eggs in it. I don't know about y'all, but I've neeeeever made buttercream using eggs. I did some reading and, yes, proper buttercream is different than what we Americans think of so it's not going to be what some of us expect. I would still order a custom cake with extremely specific instructions on the design for special occasions but I wouldn't go out of my way on non-special-occasions to order one because, to me, we're more likely to be okay with the taste instead of thrilled and the cakes are expensive. I'm not down with spending that kind of money to not have my socks knocked off in taste and appearance.

I don't see why there shouldn't be a cake thread here! Why not?! Is there really such thing as too many cake threads or too much info on cakes??? I think NOT! Carrie does have a killer blog going. I love her TRs, too. ;)
 

sweetpee_1993

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What's really interesting to me in all of this is that Disney partnered with Wilton several years ago for a number of official Pooh cake items. I have a Wilton/Disney lollipop mold/pan w/Pooh's face as well as the official Winnie the Pooh 4-color food coloring set. So, they're perfectly fine with making it possible for you to make official Pooh cake stuff at home, just not through their resorts.
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I know. But then, that stuff is licensed for home production of baked goods. Not commercial production of baked goods. I don't know. It's a very hazy line they've got going there.

I have a Pooh & hunny pot cake pan/mold that I got...oh...17 years ago??? Chandler's first birthday cake was a Pooh cake. In fact, I made it twice for parties in different states. LOL! I should dig out the pictures. It turned out really great. I should show you what I made for Brian's first birthday, too! He had 101 Dalmations with matching cupcakes that had..get this!..sugar cookie dog biscuits on them! LOL!
 

HouCuseChickie

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Original Poster
I've ordered/received custom cakes twice. ((You know that, @HouCuseChickie ;) )) The first tasted pretty blah and was a thematic mess. And it came from the bakery at the Contmeporary which I've seen so many amazing cakes come from. I was so sorely disappointed on that one. Second cake, from the bakery at Y&B Club, was much prettier and a fantastic representation of what I sketched & described. The taste, however, was good not great. It's my understanding that the bakeries use a traditional buttercream recipe when you order buttercream. Traditional buttercream is different from the American-ized super-sweet-n-creamy version we associate with that name. It's got eggs in it. I don't know about y'all, but I've neeeeever made buttercream using eggs. I did some reading and, yes, proper buttercream is different than what we Americans think of so it's not going to be what some of us expect. I would still order a custom cake with extremely specific instructions on the design for special occasions but I wouldn't go out of my way on non-special-occasions to order one because, to me, we're more likely to be okay with the taste instead of thrilled and the cakes are expensive. I'm not down with spending that kind of money to not have my socks knocked off in taste and appearance.

I don't see why there shouldn't be a cake thread here! Why not?! Is there really such thing as too many cake threads or too much info on cakes??? I think NOT! Carrie does have a killer blog going. I love her TRs, too. ;)

What's funny- I almost never make a true buttercream (i.e. w/eggs) b/c I'm often feeling too lazy. ;) I just like to throw everying in the mixer and let it do its magic. I've read mixed info on what kind of buttercream they use as well. Some have said that it's the egg based variety and then others have posted in the allergy sections saying their buttercream is egg free...yet supposedly, they use the same recipes at all of the bakeries. We had chocolate buttercream on our last cake and it was mega sweet, but the fondant may have also amplified that.

I suspect that first cake you got was a podium cake in diguise. After seeing the various cake complaints, the bulk of them seem to come from the customized white buttercream cakes...which look an awful lot like the pre-made/frozen white podium cakes. As for the second cake...I've got a theory that BW and Y&C execute their cake production in a different manner. I haven't done a side by side taste test, but having seen enough WDW cake pictures...the BW and Y&C cakes always seem smaller height wise than the Contemporary and GF cakes. I'm pretty sure my mom's cake is going to be from BW, so I'm going to try and do a side by side comparison.

I love reading Carrie's stuff (trying to read her Aulani TR, but I keep getting distracted) and I wouldn't know much of what I know about WDW cakes without her (and w/o you referring me to her :)) . I hate feeling like I'm encroaching on her territory, but in the same sense, I also hate sending people to other forums and sites when they have cake questions. Plus, I love having that one thread you can scroll through with tons of cake pics, but then again- I just love looking at cakes in general. :D
 

HouCuseChickie

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Original Poster
I know. But then, that stuff is licensed for home production of baked goods. Not commercial production of baked goods. I don't know. It's a very hazy line they've got going there.

I have a Pooh & hunny pot cake pan/mold that I got...oh...17 years ago??? Chandler's first birthday cake was a Pooh cake. In fact, I made it twice for parties in different states. LOL! I should dig out the pictures. It turned out really great. I should show you what I made for Brian's first birthday, too! He had 101 Dalmations with matching cupcakes that had..get this!..sugar cookie dog biscuits on them! LOL!

Agreed...it's likely all tied up in a bunch of legal jargon. Probably the same with all of the recent copyright concerns.

I would LOVE to see the cakes! I think I've probably posted it on here before, but this was Sammie's 1st bday cake...the whole reason I bought those Pooh products.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/houcusechickie/4885271403/
 

alissafalco

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HouCuseChickie

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That came out great! You're very talented that you can make that!

Thank you! :) This was one of my early cakes...that hunny pot was literally the first time I tried to really sculpt with gumpaste or fondant. I will be posting more of my Disney cakes once the actual cake thread is created. While not from WDW, they are obviously Disney inspired and could help anyone looking for cake ideas for WDW trips or at home. Plus, I will need people to vent to when I try and tackle DD4's 5th bday cake this fall...I promised her the pirate ship from Jake & the Neverland pirates.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
What's really interesting to me in all of this is that Disney partnered with Wilton several years ago for a number of official Pooh cake items. I have a Wilton/Disney lollipop mold/pan w/Pooh's face as well as the official Winnie the Pooh 4-color food coloring set. So, they're perfectly fine with making it possible for you to make official Pooh cake stuff at home, just not through their resorts.
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What is so special about Pooh food coloring? o_O
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I think whatever-the-company's-name-is that owns the rights to Winnie the Pooh is less likely to sue an individual who makes cakes than they are a maaaaajor global entertainment empire such as TWDC. Wouldn't ya think?
The company that owns the rights to Winnie the Pooh would be The Walt Disney Company

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/30/winnie-the-pooh-disney-law-suit
Disney wins Winnie the Pooh copyright case


Walt Disney has won the legal battle over royalty rights to the cartoon character Winnie the Pooh, ending an 18-year feud
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The Walt Disney corporation has won the legal battle over rights to Winnie the Pooh and his fellow characters in Hundred Acre Wood. Photograph:Rex
After an 18-year feud, the fate of a very important bear has been settled. The Walt Disney corporation has fought off a challenge to its ownership of the rights to Winnie the Pooh and his lucrative fellow characters in Hundred Acre Wood.
A judge in Los Angeles has struck out a claim against Disney lodged by the family of Stephen Slesinger, a comic book pioneer who bought the copyright to Pooh in 1930 from the bear's British creator, A.A. Milne.
After Slesinger's death in 1953, his widow licensed the rights to Disney in return for regular royalties – but the family sued in 1991, claiming to have been short-changed by Disney. The Slesingers demanded damages of $2bn (£1.25bn).
Exploiting Pooh is a highly profitable business. Disney has featured Pooh in movies, books, DVDs, games and even as a computer screensaver. The self-described 'bear of very little brain' is one of the most valuable franchises in the Disney stable.
The Slesingers had accused Disney of breach of contract, alleging that the Californian media conglomerate failed to disclose accurate royalty figures for sales of merchandise and that Pooh revenue was intermingled with earnings from characters such as Mickey Mouse.
But judge Florence-Marie Cooper found misconduct on the part of the Slesinger estate which, at one point during the lengthy dispute, hired a private detective who was accused of going through rubbish bins at Disney's headquarters in the hope of obtaining documents.
"Stephen Slesinger Inc transferred all of its rights in the Pooh works to Disney, and may not now claim infringement of any retained rights," said the judge's ruling.
Disney declared itself "pleased" with the outcome. Stephen Slesinger's daughter, Patricia Slesinger, told the Los Angeles Times: "Judge Florence Cooper provided a potential and an elegant middle-ground solution that will allow us to go forward with our business relationship – hopefully without more litigation." Stories of Pooh's adventures were originally created by Milne in the 1920s, based on a toy bear owned by the author's son, Christopher Robin. The legal battle with Disney was settled amid preparations for the publication of the first authorised sequel to Milne's books for 80 years. The new work, Return to Hundred Acre Wood by David Benedictus, will reach bookshops in early October.
 

sweetpee_1993

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The company that owns the rights to Winnie the Pooh would be The Walt Disney Company

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/30/winnie-the-pooh-disney-law-suit
Okay... Well scratch my theory. The info I read was probably dated close to when that article was posted so that may help account for inaccuracy of info. So, officially, the bakeries at WDW can no longer cite legality as their excuse. Folks should be calling them on that so laziness and stock answers aren't accepted.

The reason for Pooh specific icing dyes is to ensure the correct colors for the characters are produced with little room for error. And to make another buck, of course. ;)
 

HouCuseChickie

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Original Poster
What is so special about Pooh food coloring? o_O

The reason for Pooh specific icing dyes is to ensure the correct colors for the characters are produced with little room for error. And to make another buck, of course. ;)

Agreed. Plus having the proper colors from the get go makes it easier (fewer rounds of tinting adjustments) and keeps the consistency of the fondant or gumpaste at the proper pliability level. Too much food coloring while trying to achieve the proper color can turn a fairly firm piece of fondant or gumpaste into squishy mess that's not always easy to save.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Original Poster
I am a cake and cupcake freak! I live for it! So Happy ya'll started this thread! I think it was @HouCuseChickie that had the awesome custom caked in trip reports but the pooh cake bellow is just awesome!

Thanks! I really enjoy making cakes.

I have had a couple of trip reports with cakes made at WDW. I may actually have a whopping 3 cakes for our next trip!

And this is just the preview thread :D Right now, I'm organizing TONS of photos of cakes prepared by the Disney bakeries so the official thread can have a fairly comprehensive starter gallery of cakes. I think we have enough positive feedback here that I can probably start the official thread up over the weekend. :) Now to decide on a name.
 

HouCuseChickie

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Original Poster
Disney takes the Cake.
A Cake a day keeps the doctor away. (quite the misnomer)

I also took a break today to work on potential names. The one I've bolded below was inspired by your suggestion.

WDW Magic Takes the Cake – The Official Cake Talk
WDW Magic Cake Board … the Icing on the Cake
WDW Magic Cake Conversation … Have Your Cake & Eat It Too
WDW Magic Cake Connection … Let Them Eat Cake
WDW Magic Cake Help … It’s a Piece-a-Cake
 

rufio

Well-Known Member
I've also took a break today to work on potential names. The one I've bolded below was inspired by your suggestion.

WDW Magic Takes the Cake – The Official Cake Talk
WDW Magic Cake Board … the Icing on the Cake
WDW Magic Cake Conversation … Have Your Cake & Eat It Too
WDW Magic Cake Connection … Let Them Eat Cake
WDW Magic Cake Help … It’s a Piece-a-Cake

I like the first one! :D
 

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