world cup

[Luau Cove]

As an Argentinian, "futbol" soccer is part of everyday life. I think north-american people are used to sports with one goal/point after another (Basketball, Baseball, Football, Hockey) and so the "slow" soccer game bores them since you can get to see a draw with not even a goal marked in the whole game.
The thing is, the emotion brought by soccer is different to those of any other sport. Soccer is loved not only by the goals, but because of every other single aspect of the game. For example, the weaker not always lose, or that you don't need to have special plays or offensives.
It's like that. You won't find emotion in soccer if you never played it, or loved it before. It comes from deep inside. That's why the best soccer is not the technical, but the one played by players who learned in the street and are wise rather than prepared.

-->LUAU

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Originally posted by Alberrisford
we have our worldcup on our two main terrestrial channels - BBC1 and ITV1

What do you guys watch the world cup on?

It's on ABC and the ESPN family here. (So, fittingly enough for these boards, Disney is basically showing the World Cup here in the States.)

 

[Nut4Disney]

France has ties Uruguay 0-0, so I think the defending champs have yet to score a goal. Heads are going to roll in Paris this week. :zipit:

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Originally posted by Luau Cove
I think north-american people are used to sports with one goal/point after another (Basketball, Baseball, Football, Hockey) and so the "slow" soccer game bores them since you can get to see a draw with not even a goal marked in the whole game.
The thing is, the emotion brought by soccer is different to those of any other sport. Soccer is loved not only by the goals, but because of every other single aspect of the game.

For the most part, you're right about Americans, but honestly, some people here have that kind of passion for other sports. There are some Americans who are perfectly fine watching a 1-0 baseball game or a 0-0 hockey game, because they love the games that much.

I honestly think that media coverage is probably the primary reason more people in this country aren't interested in the game. There are a ton of kids playing soccer in this country who are going to grow up as fans of the sport, but they're going to have trouble following it in this country.

It could take a while, but if the U.S.A. ever fields a league that is comparable to those around the world, you might gradually see more coverage here, which would in turn lead to more fans. The NHL took a long time to really catch on here (some might say it still hasn't), but the massive promotion of the league by ESPN definitely helped it; now, there are pro hockey teams in Tennessee, Texas, Georgia, Florida, and Arizona, so it can happen.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Originally posted by Maria
Posts in chit chat don´t count!

Thanks for the heads-up!

(So much for my devious "post one word at a time" plot... )

 

[MKCustodial]

Originally posted by Maria
being the cheapest one can be played for poors and riches equally on the streets, than in a football field.

I persoanlly hate seeing people going on the streets and climbing our monuments when Mexico wins... I guess it is part of being latin, but that part I don´t like... actually makes me mad...

Hear, hear! I thought it was a Brazilian characteristic (you all know how much people at WDW LOVE Brazilian groups), but after my CM time, I realized it's latinos in general who have this tendency to go crazy for so little... Go figure.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Originally posted by MKCustodial


Hear, hear! I thought it was a Brazilian characteristic (you all know how much people at WDW LOVE Brazilian groups), but after my CM time, I realized it's latinos in general who have this tendency to go crazy for so little... Go figure.

Ah, don't be so quick to write it off to ethnicity. I don't think it's a Latin thing, I think it's a jackass thing...and we have plenty of those here, too.

If your team wins a title in one of the four major sports after a long drought here, you just don't walk the streets that night, with all the people looting, tipping cars, and setting fires. I have seen this happen numerous times in different cities the last few years, and it's starting to become common on college campuses, too, for those whose teams make the finals...whether they win or lose!

Like I say, a jackass thing...

 

[MKCustodial]

Originally posted by Wilt Dasney


Ah, don't be so quick to write it off to ethnicity. I don't think it's a Latin thing, I think it's a jackass thing...and we have plenty of those here, too.

If your team wins a title in one of the four major sports after a long drought here, you just don't walk the streets that night, with all the people looting, tipping cars, and setting fires. I have seen this happen numerous times in different cities the last few years, and it's starting to become common on college campuses, too, for those whose teams make the finals...whether they win or lose!

Like I say, a jackass thing...

Hold it, Wilt, you went a bit too far. What we're refering to here, and I think Maria will agree, is not acts of vandalism (even though climbing statues is a bit over there). Yes, there are cases of that, and tons of it, with people dying because someone decided to celebrate a victory with a loaded gun. What we mean is this: the first Brazilian game aired at 6 AM. When it was over (around 8 AM) people were out on the streets celebrating, drinking, having barbecues, dancing (a lot of samba music), and many, many people only started working after noon.

So yeah, we have random acts of stupidity and violence, but there's also this characteristic of "everything is reason enough to party" that we tend to attribute to latinos, and that not all of us care to acknowledge. Heck, I don't even consider Brazilians latinos, since I believe we hold considerable physical differences to, say, Mexicans or Argentinans.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Originally posted by MKCustodial


Hold it, Wilt, you went a bit too far. What we're refering to here, and I think Maria will agree, is not acts of vandalism (even though climbing statues is a bit over there). Yes, there are cases of that, and tons of it, with people dying because someone decided to celebrate a victory with a loaded gun. What we mean is this: the first Brazilian game aired at 6 AM. When it was over (around 8 AM) people were out on the streets celebrating, drinking, having barbecues, dancing (a lot of samba music), and many, many people only started working after noon.

So yeah, we have random acts of stupidity and violence, but there's also this characteristic of "everything is reason enough to party" that we tend to attribute to latinos, and that not all of us care to acknowledge. Heck, I don't even consider Brazilians latinos, since I believe we hold considerable physical differences to, say, Mexicans or Argentinans.

Didn't mean any offense, MKCustodial.

I understand what you're saying now, and I can see where that sounds like more of a cultural thing. I guess the closest thing to that here would be people calling in sick to watch the NCAA Tournament, but it's not as big as what you're describing.

I amend my previous statement.

 

[MKCustodial]

Originally posted by Wilt Dasney


Didn't mean any offense, MKCustodial.

I understand what you're saying now, and I can see where that sounds like more of a cultural thing. I guess the closest thing to that here would be people calling in sick to watch the NCAA Tournament, but it's not as big as what you're describing.

I amend my previous statement.

Don't worry, Wilt, didn't take as an offense at all. :lol:

I was just trying to clarify things!

 

[Maria]

Originally posted by MKCustodial

What we're refering to here, and I think Maria will agree, is not acts of vandalism (even though climbing statues is a bit over there). Yes, there are cases of that, and tons of it, with people dying because someone decided to celebrate a victory with a loaded gun. What we mean is this: the first Brazilian game aired at 6 AM. When it was over (around 8 AM) people were out on the streets celebrating, drinking, having barbecues, dancing (a lot of samba music), and many, many people only started working after noon.

So yeah, we have random acts of stupidity and violence, but there's also this characteristic of "everything is reason enough to party" that we tend to attribute to latinos, and that not all of us care to acknowledge. Heck, I don't even consider Brazilians latinos, since I believe we hold considerable physical differences to, say, Mexicans or Argentinans.

Totally agree...

Today in the newspaper, there is an interview with the Director of the National Insitute of Anthroplogy and History, talking about the preparations of this particular beautiful city monument (it is a rotonda hand carved on a huge stone that tells the history of Mexico and has stairs and all) for next sunday´s early hours when Mexico plays against Ecuador... They are going to have special surveillance with police officers so people don´t try to climb it again rolled in our flag...

To celebrate, people go out, gather there, climb it and drive around honking and screaming, and destroying gardens around without intention, just celebrating. It´s not precisely vandalism, but it is close to it... Sometimes you wish we loose, but then you wonder if it would be worse then...

Same thing happens with a HUGE crowd in Mexico City around a monument called "the Angel of Independence" in the most important avenue in the country, what we call "our Champs Ellisees", Reforma Avenue.

 

[Luau Cove]

Originally posted by MKCustodial

Heck, I don't even consider Brazilians latinos, since I believe we hold considerable physical differences to, say, Mexicans or Argentinans.

When you talk about "latinos" you talk about ethnicity or just because our language?

-->LUAU

 

[MKCustodial]

Originally posted by Luau Cove


When you talk about "latinos" you talk about ethnicity or just because our language?

-->LUAU

Actually, that's the whole point. I guess we're all called latinos because of the language, since it all kinda came from Latin as opposed to English and German. But then, Italian and French came from Latin as well, so it's confusing.

And even ethnicity, I guess some countries are more similar than others...

Ah, it's a HUGE mess!! :hammer:

 

[tenchu]

I'm confused. :animwink:

 

[disney_nutter]

Half time score

England1
argentina0
COME ON ENGLAND :sohappy:

 

[tybroid59]

fingers and toes crossed

 

[Dawnie]

I'm so happy I could cry.

England 1 - Argentina 0:sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy:

 

[tybroid59]

I knew they would win :king: :king: :king:

 

[tenchu]

Boo england won!

But i didn't really want argentina to win either.

But boo anyway!

 

[moonchild]

:sohappy: :sohappy: WOO HOO