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MinnieM123

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Oh, yeah, I know the school shooter issue is an American phenomenon. I wouldn't want to be the kid who has to sit next to the window. I think I would the shivering and teeth chattering too much of a distraction to learn. 🥶

I read an article that last month that had photos of an open air classroom in Boston during a TB epidemic. Yikes.

I found it.

(I get a paywall with the WAPO, so I'll respond more in general.) Yes, things were tough back then, but kids are pretty resilient. Doesn't mean it was easy or pleasant, but they somehow adapted. I give them credit. :)
 

Sans Souci

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(I get a paywall with the WAPO, so I'll respond more in general.) Yes, things were tough back then, but kids are pretty resilient. Doesn't mean it was easy or pleasant, but they somehow adapted. I give them credit. :)

I've cut and paste the text for you. I forgot WaPo was behind a paywall.

By Dustin Waters
September 14, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. EDT
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Nine schoolchildren sat at their desks wrapped in chunky layers of flannel, their feet resting on heated soapstones as the frigid New England air stung their faces. In January 1908, amid a tuberculosis epidemic, these Rhode Island students were part of a unique experiment to combat the infectious disease: America’s first open-air school.

More than a century later, educators are touting outdoor classes as a way to combat the spread of the novel coronavirus among America’s schoolchildren.
In the early 1900s, it was estimated that as many as 30 percent of school-age children in Providence carried tuberculosis, a bacterial infection that often attacked the lungs. Although many of the infected children showed no outward symptoms, the infection could lie dormant for years and ultimately contribute to death in adulthood. To combat this, medical experts urged the importance of plenty of sunshine and fresh air.
Boston refused to close schools during the 1918 flu. Then children began to die.
Tuberculosis specialist Mary Packard — one of the first women to graduate from the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine — wrote to the Rhode Island state medical examiner in August of 1907 to propose a plan. Along with fellow Hopkins-educated physician Ellen Stone, Packard had overseen an open-air summer camp for tubercular children. The students who attended the camp were set to return to their cramped classrooms in the city at the start of the school year. The doctors feared that any progress that had been made over the summer would be lost. They suggested the creation of a new type of classroom.
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Work soon began on an unused schoolhouse on Providence’s East Side. The large, open classroom on the second floor was painted a soft shade of green, save for the wall facing south. This was demolished and replaced with a row of large windows operated by pulleys. Despite the harsh winter temperatures, these windows remained open during class — filling the room with fresh air and sunlight.
“It is not claimed that the school is in any way ideal, and, in fact, it has only been undertaken provisionally as an experiment,” Stone wrote in the Journal of the Outdoor Life in 1908. “However, it does seem a step in the right direction, and if a number of open-air rooms could be established in various parts of the city … might they not be of some value in the suppression of tuberculosis?”

The school’s pupils varied in age and grade level, but they did share a similar set of characteristics: They were all underweight, anemic and weak. For some in attendance, it was their first opportunity to participate in an actual classroom due to a lifetime of poor health. Some had recently lost parents to tuberculosis.
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Each child was weighed and examined by a physician after arriving to class. Then the children would be wrapped in large flannel sacks lined with paper and cotton, many of which were donated by a local church’s sewing circle.
Each student’s desk sat atop a movable platform that allowed for the pupils to be easily shuffled around during the day to chase the rays of direct sunlight. Students were led in breathing exercises and singing practice to strengthen their lungs. Owing to its former use as a cooking school, the classroom was outfitted with a cavernous oven that served as a source of warmth.
‘The 1918 flu is still with us’: The deadliest pandemic ever is still causing problems today
News of the school quickly spread, with newspapers across the country running an identical report shortly after the school opened: “Little faces that were sallow and pinched a few weeks ago have a healthy flush, and children who were too tired to play are beginning to show some interest in life. All of this … is what the fresh-air school has accomplished.”
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The Providence open-air experiment was viewed as a success by parents and educators.
“After two years the school committee concluded that the experiment had more than met the expectations of its proponents,” wrote historian Richard Meckel in a 1995 article in Rhode Island History. “Virtually all the children attending the school had gained weight and improved in general health, and even a few had been able to return to normal classrooms.”

But with this initial success came another challenge. The first open-air school had quickly reached its capacity. By 1912, Providence school officials estimated that at least nine additional open-air schools were needed to house the city’s infected students. This was a problem that the initial school’s creators had predicted.
“In the light of the amount of tuberculosis found at autopsy in children dying of other diseases and from accident, we must recognize the fact that many school children are carrying about hidden foci of this disease, and is it not probable that those are who are suffering with anemia, debility, etc., are likely to be the ones?” Stone had written four years earlier. “At all events, any one familiar with the confining atmosphere of even our best city schools cannot but recognize that there are a great many children to whom lessons in the open air for awhile would do much towards increasing their resistance and thus preventing future breakdown from tuberculosis?”
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In 1913, Providence finally opened a second open-air school. That number reached 11 in 1926, and these special facilities would serve the city for another 31 years. By that time, the concept of an open-air classroom had spread to more than 150 American cities, aiding both the minds and bodies of thousands of students.
But advancements in antibiotics in the 1940s allowed doctors to treat tuberculosis with drugs instead of fresh air. As children’s health improved, the need for open-air classrooms in Providence became less urgent. Spanning five decades, the city’s grand experiment with open-air learning came to an end in 1957, when the program’s few remaining classrooms were closed.
Students in Rhode Island return to school on Monday amid a very different health crisis. Many children will be able to attend classes in person instead of virtually, but members of the Providence Teachers Union are worried that some classrooms are not safe. One of the concerns, according to the Providence Journal, is ventilation and classroom windows that are unable to open.
Read more Retropolis:
Boston refused to close schools during the 1918 flu. Then children began to die.
‘It is getting better now’: Family letters from the deadly 1918 flu pandemic
‘The 1918 flu is still with us’: The deadliest pandemic ever is still causing problems today
Reopening too soon: Lessons from the deadly second wave of the 1918 flu pandemic
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MinnieM123

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I've cut and paste the text for you. I forgot WaPo was behind a paywall.

By Dustin Waters
September 14, 2020 at 7:00 a.m. EDT
Add to list
Nine schoolchildren sat at their desks wrapped in chunky layers of flannel, their feet resting on heated soapstones as the frigid New England air stung their faces. In January 1908, amid a tuberculosis epidemic, these Rhode Island students were part of a unique experiment to combat the infectious disease: America’s first open-air school.

More than a century later, educators are touting outdoor classes as a way to combat the spread of the novel coronavirus among America’s schoolchildren.
In the early 1900s, it was estimated that as many as 30 percent of school-age children in Providence carried tuberculosis, a bacterial infection that often attacked the lungs. Although many of the infected children showed no outward symptoms, the infection could lie dormant for years and ultimately contribute to death in adulthood. To combat this, medical experts urged the importance of plenty of sunshine and fresh air.
Boston refused to close schools during the 1918 flu. Then children began to die.
Tuberculosis specialist Mary Packard — one of the first women to graduate from the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine — wrote to the Rhode Island state medical examiner in August of 1907 to propose a plan. Along with fellow Hopkins-educated physician Ellen Stone, Packard had overseen an open-air summer camp for tubercular children. The students who attended the camp were set to return to their cramped classrooms in the city at the start of the school year. The doctors feared that any progress that had been made over the summer would be lost. They suggested the creation of a new type of classroom.
AD

Work soon began on an unused schoolhouse on Providence’s East Side. The large, open classroom on the second floor was painted a soft shade of green, save for the wall facing south. This was demolished and replaced with a row of large windows operated by pulleys. Despite the harsh winter temperatures, these windows remained open during class — filling the room with fresh air and sunlight.
“It is not claimed that the school is in any way ideal, and, in fact, it has only been undertaken provisionally as an experiment,” Stone wrote in the Journal of the Outdoor Life in 1908. “However, it does seem a step in the right direction, and if a number of open-air rooms could be established in various parts of the city … might they not be of some value in the suppression of tuberculosis?”

The school’s pupils varied in age and grade level, but they did share a similar set of characteristics: They were all underweight, anemic and weak. For some in attendance, it was their first opportunity to participate in an actual classroom due to a lifetime of poor health. Some had recently lost parents to tuberculosis.
AD

Each child was weighed and examined by a physician after arriving to class. Then the children would be wrapped in large flannel sacks lined with paper and cotton, many of which were donated by a local church’s sewing circle.
Each student’s desk sat atop a movable platform that allowed for the pupils to be easily shuffled around during the day to chase the rays of direct sunlight. Students were led in breathing exercises and singing practice to strengthen their lungs. Owing to its former use as a cooking school, the classroom was outfitted with a cavernous oven that served as a source of warmth.
‘The 1918 flu is still with us’: The deadliest pandemic ever is still causing problems today
News of the school quickly spread, with newspapers across the country running an identical report shortly after the school opened: “Little faces that were sallow and pinched a few weeks ago have a healthy flush, and children who were too tired to play are beginning to show some interest in life. All of this … is what the fresh-air school has accomplished.”
AD

The Providence open-air experiment was viewed as a success by parents and educators.
“After two years the school committee concluded that the experiment had more than met the expectations of its proponents,” wrote historian Richard Meckel in a 1995 article in Rhode Island History. “Virtually all the children attending the school had gained weight and improved in general health, and even a few had been able to return to normal classrooms.”

But with this initial success came another challenge. The first open-air school had quickly reached its capacity. By 1912, Providence school officials estimated that at least nine additional open-air schools were needed to house the city’s infected students. This was a problem that the initial school’s creators had predicted.
“In the light of the amount of tuberculosis found at autopsy in children dying of other diseases and from accident, we must recognize the fact that many school children are carrying about hidden foci of this disease, and is it not probable that those are who are suffering with anemia, debility, etc., are likely to be the ones?” Stone had written four years earlier. “At all events, any one familiar with the confining atmosphere of even our best city schools cannot but recognize that there are a great many children to whom lessons in the open air for awhile would do much towards increasing their resistance and thus preventing future breakdown from tuberculosis?”
AD

In 1913, Providence finally opened a second open-air school. That number reached 11 in 1926, and these special facilities would serve the city for another 31 years. By that time, the concept of an open-air classroom had spread to more than 150 American cities, aiding both the minds and bodies of thousands of students.
But advancements in antibiotics in the 1940s allowed doctors to treat tuberculosis with drugs instead of fresh air. As children’s health improved, the need for open-air classrooms in Providence became less urgent. Spanning five decades, the city’s grand experiment with open-air learning came to an end in 1957, when the program’s few remaining classrooms were closed.
Students in Rhode Island return to school on Monday amid a very different health crisis. Many children will be able to attend classes in person instead of virtually, but members of the Providence Teachers Union are worried that some classrooms are not safe. One of the concerns, according to the Providence Journal, is ventilation and classroom windows that are unable to open.
Read more Retropolis:
Boston refused to close schools during the 1918 flu. Then children began to die.
‘It is getting better now’: Family letters from the deadly 1918 flu pandemic
‘The 1918 flu is still with us’: The deadliest pandemic ever is still causing problems today
Reopening too soon: Lessons from the deadly second wave of the 1918 flu pandemic
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Thank you for sharing that!

Wow. What an article, huh?! The most interesting thing to me was a sentence about how that virus could lay dormant in children for years -- and then contribute to death in adulthood. Yikes!
 

Sans Souci

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Thank you for sharing that!

Wow. What an article, huh?! The most interesting thing to me was a sentence about how that virus could lay dormant in children for years -- and then contribute to death in adulthood. Yikes!

TB doesn't seem to have gotten the coverage the Spanish Flu has, for some reason. My MIL told me her mother caught TB and she was put in a TB sanatorium for a long time. She said was really hard for her because she was only 5 at the time and she was one of 6 kids. She said visitors were not allowed, for obvious reasons. She said she felt her mom's long absence affected their relationship.

I saw an episode of the PBS' American Experience about TB and how society changed as a result. The said a lot of growth in Western/Southwestern cities was driven by the thought that drier air was a "cure" for TB.

 

Songbird76

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Thank you for sharing that!

Wow. What an article, huh?! The most interesting thing to me was a sentence about how that virus could lay dormant in children for years -- and then contribute to death in adulthood. Yikes!
I had to be tested for TB once...I'm not sure how old I was...I think junior high? My friend was apparently a carrier. She didn't have it herself, but she could give it to other people, so I had to get tested, but I was negative.
 

Figgy1

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Good morning-

I completed week 6 of my 12 week program, so I am half way there. Today was a full body workout.

I am hoping to get out for a walk today, but the radar is telling me otherwise. 👎

I found a way to work with my cravings for sweet things. I've only been using my light box for a week--week and a half, so it takes a while to get some relief for SAD. It needs to build up, anyway, I have been making overnight oats with a scoop of vanilla protein, 2 TBS of powered peanut butter mixed with non-dairy (coconut) milk. Before I eat it in the AM, I mix a few dark chocolate chips in. I'm not going to act like this is the healthiest thing in the world, but it's better than baking cakes and cookies (and eating them) all week long. These serious cravings should go away in another 2-3 weeks. I'm still a bit down and irritable, but I have more energy. It just takes a while until I feel "normal" again.

I ordered a set of tarot cards that I'd wanted for a while. They were marked down for Prime Days, so I bit. They are arriving today, so I'll be "getting to know them" a bit a today. :cool:
Prime days are dangerous;) Please let us know how the tarot cards work out.
 

Figgy1

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I had to be tested for TB once...I'm not sure how old I was...I think junior high? My friend was apparently a carrier. She didn't have it herself, but she could give it to other people, so I had to get tested, but I was negative.
I know my dh gets tested at work but I'm not sure how often, to be honest I don't keep up with his required shots either except for the flu shot because seeing we both usually have a reaction I schedule them at the start of a 3 day weekend, his job takes care of the rest. When my older ds was in a regular building and I was in the classroom on a regular basis I had to be tested for TB either every or every other year.
 

Figgy1

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Good morning I spent some time with Leslie Sansone and did some stretching. It looks like indoor workouts until spring but I can add time little by little.:joyfull: I finished canning up applesauce for the year fingers crossed, I'll see how much the boys use up between now and right before Thanksgiving when the last farm market closes for the year
 

HouCuseChickie

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TB doesn't seem to have gotten the coverage the Spanish Flu has, for some reason. My MIL told me her mother caught TB and she was put in a TB sanatorium for a long time. She said was really hard for her because she was only 5 at the time and she was one of 6 kids. She said visitors were not allowed, for obvious reasons. She said she felt her mom's long absence affected their relationship.

I saw an episode of the PBS' American Experience about TB and how society changed as a result. The said a lot of growth in Western/Southwestern cities was driven by the thought that drier air was a "cure" for TB.


It's interesting that you mention this, because when my grandparents spoke of illnesses in their younger days, it was always TB and Polio. I had heard of the Spanish Flu, but it got lumped in with all of the other flus in discussion and didn't sound nearly as scary from the tone of voice they used for it. That's not to say it wasn't serious, but it's interesting that I don't remember it coming up like the other illnesses.
 

HouCuseChickie

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So, I still haven't found it in me to do any kind of normal working out, but I have tried to be a bit more active. It may not sound like the most strenuous stuff, but if you could have seen the vine and flower bed situation I remedied, the disaster area in our big kitchen counter spaces, and the softball heap that was the back of our great room, it was some sweat producing work that lasted an hour+ in each case. I also have some battle scars from the vines and the great room clean up.

Some of the vines are thorny and my arms look like a cat and I got into a tussle. When I was wiping down the bench seating in the great room after cleaning it off, a piece of glass left over from a window replacement we had done a few months ago left a nasty gash in my right ring finger. The bench is ivory and the glass was clear and flat, so it was well hidden.

Other than that, we had a Thanksgivingish dinner the other night and cooked the last of the turkeys from my 2019 hoarding haul. We didn't do all of the holiday sides, but it's always so nice to have turkey just for the heck of it.

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Sans Souci

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So, I still haven't found it in me to do any kind of normal working out, but I have tried to be a bit more active. It may not sound like the most strenuous stuff, but if you could have seen the vine and flower bed situation I remedied, the disaster area in our big kitchen counter spaces, and the softball heap that was the back of our great room, it was some sweat producing work that lasted an hour+ in each case. I also have some battle scars from the vines and the great room clean up.

Some of the vines are thorny and my arms look like a cat and I got into a tussle. When I was wiping down the bench seating in the great room after cleaning it off, a piece of glass left over from a window replacement we had done a few months ago left a nasty gash in my right ring finger. The bench is ivory and the glass was clear and flat, so it was well hidden.

Other than that, we had a Thanksgivingish dinner the other night and cooked the last of the turkeys from my 2019 hoarding haul. We didn't do all of the holiday sides, but it's always so nice to have turkey just for the heck of it.

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I remember you talking about your turkey haul last year! The pies look delicious. Are they pumpkin or sweet potato?

Your gardening/cleaning day definitely sounds like a workout to me. My back yard is an absolute mess. I gave up in the summer. I just wasn't feeling it.
 

Sans Souci

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Hello-

I did an abs and arms workout today and then I went out for a walk. It gets so buggy this time of the year. Bleh.

About a week and a half ago, my grandma entered a nursing home type-place. It was like a studio, no roommate, no shared bathroom, etc. She had to quarantine for 14 days, because she was a new resident. While she was there, she collapsed and hit her head. She had to go the ER, where she was admitted and then discharged to 5 weeks of rehab once she was stabilized. Well, she tested positive for covid today. She is 85 and she has a neurodegenerative disease, so I am thinking this is going to be hard for her to combat. I've not seen her since last Thanksgiving and we really don't want to travel this year. My husband and I simply don't feel confident in air travel right now. Plus, this is popping again in the Chicago area. I couldn't visit her if I wanted to, anyway, since she is in the rehab center. I'm just really angry with whole 💩 show.
 

ajrwdwgirl

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Hello-

I did an abs and arms workout today and then I went out for a walk. It gets so buggy this time of the year. Bleh.

About a week and a half ago, my grandma entered a nursing home type-place. It was like a studio, no roommate, no shared bathroom, etc. She had to quarantine for 14 days, because she was a new resident. While she was there, she collapsed and hit her head. She had to go the ER, where she was admitted and then discharged to 5 weeks of rehab once she was stabilized. Well, she tested positive for covid today. She is 85 and she has a neurodegenerative disease, so I am thinking this is going to be hard for her to combat. I've not seen her since last Thanksgiving and we really don't want to travel this year. My husband and I simply don't feel confident in air travel right now. Plus, this is popping again in the Chicago area. I couldn't visit her if I wanted to, anyway, since she is in the rehab center. I'm just really angry with whole 💩 show.

Sorry to hear about your grandma, tough situation for sure.
 

Songbird76

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Hello-

I did an abs and arms workout today and then I went out for a walk. It gets so buggy this time of the year. Bleh.

About a week and a half ago, my grandma entered a nursing home type-place. It was like a studio, no roommate, no shared bathroom, etc. She had to quarantine for 14 days, because she was a new resident. While she was there, she collapsed and hit her head. She had to go the ER, where she was admitted and then discharged to 5 weeks of rehab once she was stabilized. Well, she tested positive for covid today. She is 85 and she has a neurodegenerative disease, so I am thinking this is going to be hard for her to combat. I've not seen her since last Thanksgiving and we really don't want to travel this year. My husband and I simply don't feel confident in air travel right now. Plus, this is popping again in the Chicago area. I couldn't visit her if I wanted to, anyway, since she is in the rehab center. I'm just really angry with whole 💩 show.
Did she get Covid in the ER/rehab or from the new facility when she moved in? I'm so sorry this happened! What about your mom....your mom wanted her to live with her, right? Or is this a different grandma?
 

Figgy1

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Hello-

I did an abs and arms workout today and then I went out for a walk. It gets so buggy this time of the year. Bleh.

About a week and a half ago, my grandma entered a nursing home type-place. It was like a studio, no roommate, no shared bathroom, etc. She had to quarantine for 14 days, because she was a new resident. While she was there, she collapsed and hit her head. She had to go the ER, where she was admitted and then discharged to 5 weeks of rehab once she was stabilized. Well, she tested positive for covid today. She is 85 and she has a neurodegenerative disease, so I am thinking this is going to be hard for her to combat. I've not seen her since last Thanksgiving and we really don't want to travel this year. My husband and I simply don't feel confident in air travel right now. Plus, this is popping again in the Chicago area. I couldn't visit her if I wanted to, anyway, since she is in the rehab center. I'm just really angry with whole 💩 show.
Prayers and pixie dust. Take care of yourself because sometimes we all do forget to do so at times. xoxo
 
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