Woman in Tea-Cup fight sentenced

kimmychad

Member
Im replying to the lifetime ban comment . How would they go about doing this and also , we need to be able to forgive people and let them learn from their mistakes . Some people think the dont have to grow up and make a bad judgement , but I think she deserves a second chance . Now she should be on probation for a year , to monitor her behavior.

I have always been intrigued by the "Ban phrase", I have to say quite honestly I dont see how they could figure a way to imply this.
I know that tickets could be bought through anyone etc.... so ???

John

yes some people need forgiving and all that but violence at disney? im pro war, pro death penalty etc., but disney i visit to escape the real world, if people cant behave, stay home. and they use a biometric scan for their tickets, and that information can be kept.
 

SKYWAY 4 ME

Active Member
yes some people need forgiving and all that but violence at disney? im pro war, pro death penalty etc., but disney i visit to escape the real world, if people cant behave, stay home. and they use a biometric scan for their tickets, and that information can be kept.

I agree as well. :)
 

Sherrybaby

New Member
I'm not saying I don't agree with the punishment, however, when a child molester gets out after 30 days (see the news this does happen) or even after posting bail with no time served.... I think that 90 days is a bit extreme. I'm sure the "cutter" is having a ball over all of this and that sort of person is not going to change--she will do it again. She got away with it this time PLUS she put someone in jail.

I'm not saying I'd beat someone up if they cut but I might push them away from me if they were too close, etc. If it turned into an altercation I guess that's the way it goes.

My son was about 6 years old when he accidentally sprayed an older boy in front of us with his mist fan. The mother got so irate and started screaming and my girlfriend and I were just apologizing over and over again. She really did look scary and started getting into her bag while she was screaming so we just got out of line and went to security. We do think she was getting out a weapon. I don't know what happened after that and I don't care but the fact of the matter is that people are rude and mean everywhere. Disney, Wal-Mart, grocery store, on the road, etc.

Just look at the sarcastic and flaming posts on this board. We represent the people who go to Disney. What we do here certainly does not say much about the population at Disney World in the way that we treat each other. I'm surprised more things like this don't happen.

Sherry.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
There's actually a member on here who was banned from WDW for bringing a weapon on property.

I won't name names though :zipit:
 

fyn

Member
Im replying to the lifetime ban comment . How would they go about doing this and also , we need to be able to forgive people and let them learn from their mistakes . Some people think the dont have to grow up and make a bad judgement , but I think she deserves a second chance . Now she should be on probation for a year , to monitor her behavior.

I have always been intrigued by the "Ban phrase", I have to say quite honestly I dont see how they could figure a way to imply this.
I know that tickets could be bought through anyone etc.... so ???

John

While I don't know for certain, and I doubt Disney allows public disclosure of their security system, I imagine its not unlike the security systems many casinos use. They take a picture of your face from some hidden camera, and its run through a database of 'banned' people. If your face comes up as a match, a security analyst checks it, then radios a guard to escort you off-premises.

That's at least how I'd do it. :lookaroun
 

goofntink

Member
Just to add to this story.Now that the lady has been found guilty and sentenced,the women who she attacked is now announced she is deciding with her attorney about pursuing legal action against Disney for her injuries.
 

AlishaMisha

Member
I know someone who got banned from Disney for going to Pin trading Sessions outside of Pin Trading Central and creating counterfeit pins to trade with guest without telling them they were fantasy pins.

How do they enforce this? I have always wondered but have no real idea.
 

TrojanUSC

Well-Known Member
In terms of banning people from the parks, it's relatively easy. The term WDW Managers and Cast Members use is a bit more accurate, "trespassed." From a legal perspective, the Orange County Sheriff's Department issues what is called a "tresspass warrant." It is a legally binding document that prohibits a person from entering Walt Disney World property. Doing so results in an immediate arrest, or at the very least, a severe warning. Most of the time these are issued for at LEAST one year, but often five.

In addition, depending on the severity of the offense causing the trespass warrant, you might get a ride to downtown Orlando directly from the Magic Kingdom to the Orange County booking center and jail (let me just tell you how fun it is to drive a family there from the park, when their loved one has just been arrested).

From a WDW operations side, there is no sure fire way to "ban" somebody. The ticketing system (ATS) has a list of people who are banned from purchasing tickets, and Guest Relations maintains a separate guest service recovery tool that documents GR and Service abuses. If either of these are flagged when a cast member enters a persons name, they notify security.

Personally, I've had to have two people thrown out of the park and trespassed. One of which was a guy who was using fake IDs to obtain comp tickets with an array of fake name and fake service issues/problems. The other was a guy who lost his mind on gay days, using obscene names and threatening me, grabbing my tie, if I didn't do something to get these "f'ing f**gots out of the park." Awful guy and deserved to be banned from the most Magical Place on Earth. :animwink:
 

she-luvs-disney

New Member
Sounds about fair. Either that or have her ride It's A Small World non-stop for 24 hours straight. That would straighten her right out (of course it might set back her anger management training).





hahahaha. that's a good one. i'll be chuckling over that one throughout the course of my day. i would hate to be a cm that would have to clean that mess up! yuck!
 

mcranmer

New Member
As far as banning anyone from the parks, couldn't they use the fingerprint detection at all of the gates? That is, take her finger prints, and when she puts her fingers in the device, have it detect that she is not allowed in. I know that this is not what the fingerprint devices are for as they are meant more for making sure people don't share tickets, but why wouldn't this work?
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
As far as banning anyone from the parks, couldn't they use the fingerprint detection at all of the gates? That is, take her finger prints, and when she puts her fingers in the device, have it detect that she is not allowed in. I know that this is not what the fingerprint devices are for as they are meant more for making sure people don't share tickets, but why wouldn't this work?

That's interesting, but I doubt they are allowed to keep that information for more than a set length of time. I think the purpose of that was to prevent people from scanning themselves in and then passing the ticket to someone else to scan themselves in. The print is matched with the specific ticket, but there may or may not be identification (i.e., someone who paid in cash isn't going to have their name linked to that card, only their fingerprint).
 

raiden

Member
Looks like the next several months she will be spending her time in the most unmagical place on earth:ROFLOL:.Then 50 hours of unmagical work:ROFLOL:. Well damn, if you do something that stupid at Disney(especially at the tea cups) you deserve to be in jail with people of your caliber! The year of a million felonies!
 

hcswingfield

Active Member
I've been to WDW multiple times, and have only seen two altercations break out. Both times they were over cutting in line at the tea cups. Both times the kid slid under the rail, and then the parents said, "I need to get where my child is" rather than making the child come back. Both times there was someone else in line who got really angry over it. Maybe Disney should modify the queue so that it's harder to cut!
 

TrojanUSC

Well-Known Member
That's interesting, but I doubt they are allowed to keep that information for more than a set length of time. I think the purpose of that was to prevent people from scanning themselves in and then passing the ticket to someone else to scan themselves in. The print is matched with the specific ticket, but there may or may not be identification (i.e., someone who paid in cash isn't going to have their name linked to that card, only their fingerprint).


No, because the finger print/biometric data is actually stored on your ticket media -- not on the Disney computers. Disney is also quite clear they only use this to prevent ticket fraud and ticket transfers.
 

Eyorefan

Active Member
I've been to WDW multiple times, and have only seen two altercations break out. Both times they were over cutting in line at the tea cups. Both times the kid slid under the rail, and then the parents said, "I need to get where my child is" rather than making the child come back. Both times there was someone else in line who got really angry over it. Maybe Disney should modify the queue so that it's harder to cut!

I think you just found the plaintiff lawyer's argument.
 

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