LittleBuford
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Under different circumstances, I would totally have got myself some Star merch, but the associations I have with the film are now so depressing that the thought of owning a product related to it brings me no joy.
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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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MagicHappens1971
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Granted that one of the hallmark issues with the film is that it was made to resemble 2D animation & doesn’t at all, I don’t think that’ll be their takeaway.
The oblivious takeaway will be that people don’t want “original” stories. Let’s keep the IP machine going….. although this film is technically not “original” either as the premise is that it predates all Disney fairytales.
Sir_Cliff
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Maybe this is naïve, but I'm hoping the recent announcement of upcoming films that suggested some have been delayed or pulled reflects a realisation they need to work harder on quality control.
They've now had too many films across several brands/franchises that haven't connected with audiences or critics and I hope they are realising that they can no longer just slap the Disney or Marvel brand on a film or even produce a film based on a recognisable franchise and expect it to find an audience in the current climate. I also hope is that this extends to their view of the live action remakes.
In that respect, I think the lesson won't just be 'rely on established IPs or franchises', because even that hasn't been working for them. If you put Elemental and Wish next to each other, for example, the obvious lesson is that the better and indeed more original film eventually found an audience despite a difficult environment and, in turn, became a hit on Disney+. The logical take away would not be to just ditch original stories, but to go back to being the gold standard in animated storytelling.
Advisable Joseph
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That could be the problem: confused expectations. It was definitely influenced by old Disney animation, but really the art design is supposed to look like a moving watercolor storybook illustration instead, as a sort of combination of techniques, I think.
Now I think the short Far From the Tree is supposed to look like traditional animation
What do you think of that? Wish could have looked like that if intended.
Since Wish's test screenings were highly successful, we know Byron Howard (Tangled, Zootopia, Encanto) and company liked it: the film's art was technically good, but not everyone will necessarily like the idea behind it.
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That’s what I’ve been saying that this whole time! But a lot’ve sad haters don’t listen to me!
Just wait until February or March that Wish will do justice on Disney+!
Phroobar
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Everything you said doesn't make a it a good movie. It was bad. Not Plan 9 from Outer Space bad but still bad.
mickEblu
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That look of Wish was inspired by movies like Into the Spiderverse and TMNT Mutant Mayhem. Both with grittier settings and content the lends theme selves to that animation style. Disney tried going with some half hearted attempt to appear modern but also feel natural for a fairytale setting. The outcome was forgettable and not visually captivating.
Phroobar
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Loss of money doesn't make a movie bad.“Plan 9 From Outer Space” lost less money
Phroobar
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The Last Wish did the fairytale look better.
mickEblu
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It did but also works better with the irreverent tone of those movies.
Advisable Joseph
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A lot of people are confused. The movie finally unveils the look Disney had been working on for the cancelled Gigantic, yet people assume that the look was half-hearted or a cynical, last minute affectation.
Reading between the lines, many online forum members and Redditers, etc., cannot accept that Wish is a moving watercolor storybook illustration, even though audience reviews at Rotten Tomatoes laud Wish for that.
And I don't think Wish is being rejected in Japan or Germany, or even Spain or the UK, although I would still need to follow the box office more.
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Disney Irish
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No one ever claimed life was going to be fair. Disney is in a slump this year, they’ve had them before. They will course correct and this will hopefully be a distant memory in the near future.Sigh! Life is so unfair! I’m not looking forward for the new year anyway.
Advisable Joseph
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I have a strong suspicion that Wish's problem in the US was coming out a week after Trolls Band Together. Kids gave Wish 4.5 stars, after all.Sigh! Life is so unfair! I’m not looking forward for the new year anyway.
Vegas Disney Fan
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It’ll do fine on D+ but even if it doesn’t it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, I think you’re too invested in it’s success or failure, Disney will live and learn from this years box office struggles and adjust accordingly.
Don’t worry about Disney, focus on having a Merry Christmas and a happy new year. Disney will be fine, there’s no reason to worry about a couple movies doing bad.
Farerb
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What is there to accept? People are calling it the way they see it. I don't doubt that this was their intention, it just doesn't look like watercolor storybook illustration. Do you really think that it's visually on par with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Bambi or Sleeping Beauty? These films look beautiful, Wish is the ugliest film Disney ever made.
LittleBuford
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Not by a long shot. That crown goes without doubt to Chicken Little.
Phroobar
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Gosh, what if it doesn't do well on Disney+? What if it gets less viewers than that weird Percy Jackson show?
Don’t go there!
