I know Disney intended Wish to have an indefinite theatrical window, but if the numbers badly drop this weekend I don't think they'll be able to keep it in most theaters through Christmas when Wonka and Migration (though they have their own potential drawbacks) are gunning for the same market starting in two weeks. Exhibitors might be happy to move on. I'm remembering how theaters in my area could not drop The Flash soon enough while Elemental and even The Little Mermaid remake were chugging along.You know people wait longer than what Disney did for Encanto and Strange World at DisneyPlus. Nice try!
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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
There actually isn't a whole lot being released before the end of the year. There is the Beyonce concert movie, Migration, Wonka, Color Purple remake, and Aquaman2. And January doesn't have anything for families opening either.
Anything is possible, but theaters maybe happy to keep Wish playing just to fill out open screens.
Thanks Irish! Those people just don’t know what are they talking about!
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it, even if we may disagree.
That's a fair point, especially since all of those are question marks right now to varying extents. (Migration apparently doesn't have strong "want to see" vibes around it, but then, that does seem like the kind of movie that relies on walk-ups, not presales. Universal has been pushing it since summer, and unlike Wish the plot is easy to grasp from the trailers.) But the buzz on Wish has been unusually toxic for this sort of film, compared to Elemental, so it may be clinging to screens once Wonka arrives.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
It'll be interesting to see the critic scores on Migration.
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Wish is a good movie. I think you will like it.
Pay no mind to these losers! They just want Disney to be shut down for the money and their selfish egos.
Miss Jennifer
Member
THIS. They kept focusing on it, but it didn't come to anything. I thought it would figure into a moment where he realizes that he has become just like the "selfish, greedy thieves" who destroyed his home and family. It's almost as if they were starting out to present an antagonist with sympathetic motives...and decided midway through that they had to make him an irredeemable Disney villain.
Umm, technically...The movie in not a remake; it is an adaptation of the Broadway musical which is it's own adaptation of the book.
The previous non-musical movie was a separate adaption of the book.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
No, I don't think it is. But I do think that whatever data Disney has access to must have scared them pretty badly for them to take such a big risk.
Do you think they're not allowed to do change course or try different things? What does it cost Disney to release Alien in theaters? I don't think it indicates they're any less committed to streaming.
Please don't include snarky and dismissive lines like this.
Don't make claims you can't support. I dismiss things that are unfounded.
To answer your question on what it would cost them to move things to theaters:
Marketing. You market differnetly for theaters. If so many have Hulu and subscirptions are good, you would not waste your time on moving something to theaters as that would be the point of your description of Disney going all in to streaming and moving away from theaters. They are finding the opposite. They need theatrical hits.
Changing a film to theaters instead of to streaming, means they are not "all in on streaming" more than other studios. They are still in the theatrical movie business, they have just had a realy bad time lately.
I did not intend for it to strike a nerve so deeply. Tripe is slang for silly or nonsense, which that theory you presented has none as evidence of what is happening is exactly against it.
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
Ok, ok. Whatever, it’ll still be seen as a remake lol.
The movie in not a remake; it is an adaptation of the Broadway musical which is it's own adaptation of the book.
The previous non-musical movie was a separate adaption of the book.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
I've supported all my assertions. You obviously disagree. I'm just asking you do to so agreeably.
I thought the Alien Romulus film (theatrical release) and Ridley Scott's Alien series (on Hulu/FX) were two different things?
Either way, I don't think they have to market differently for theaters than for streaming. Netflix didn't for Glass Onion, and it brought in $15M in its one-week theatrical release before streaming.
You're not following what I mean by "all-in on streaming." Of course Disney is still releasing films to theaters. But they've moved pretty aggressively to make streaming the emphasis. All-in means they're looking to it as the main focus of their business going forward, and holding nothing back in the process so they are doing all they can to set themselves up for success in DTC.
I'm not making this up. Iger's been saying this, and reiterated it at last week's internal town hall meeting (from Deadline):
“When we look ahead and we see a business that will primarily be a direct-to-consumer business, we obviously have an eye toward how much content do we need in order to make that a successful business? That obviously leads toward what the pricing model needs to be, and actually how much distribution support we need. I think it’s safe to assume as we ultimately turn this into a streaming business, that we believe that adding more content under economical circumstances might be a wise thing.”
Yeah, he also thought 2023 was going to be a fine year and writers and SAG are not reasonable. He says a lot of things. The guy is out in a couple years, don't put too much into what he says when he says "we see."
And no, the Alien film was going to be on Hulu. It got moved to theaters.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
The movie in not a remake; it is an adaptation of the Broadway musical which is it's own adaptation of the book.
The previous non-musical movie was a separate adaption of the book.
Okay. Now do the same explanation for the various versions of Hairspray.
Mr. Waters and I will be waiting here at the bar...
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Too soon?
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
I don't think Wish's failure is a condemnation against original stories.
By design, the movie is very formulaic, stereotypical and self-referential...an intentional celebration of a company's birthday.
In comparison, Elemental was much more original and successful. I don't think that's a coincidence.
By design, the movie is very formulaic, stereotypical and self-referential...an intentional celebration of a company's birthday.
In comparison, Elemental was much more original and successful. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Farerb
Active Member
I agree. I see many people accuse people of not supporting Wish as an original work, but calling Wish original is generous.