Win or Lose (Pixar Disney+ series)

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DisneyWarrior27

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Disney Irish said:
Disney hasn't done a lot of the daily drop for their series, I think only a couple times in 5 years. So I doubt this series would be a daily drop.

I honestly think it'll be fine. If the series is good it'll find an audience, even amid other series dropping on the service at the same time.
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We’ll see.

Sure the only daily drop I remember Disney doing for Disney+ was Season 2 of What If but it still was an animated show that benefitted in viewership ratings because of a daily drop.

Also, I would like to believe it will be fine and find an audience even if it’s good, but that’s what many assumed about Star Wars: The Acolyte and look how that turned out, cancelled after 1 season, despite critics liking it without loving it.

So, I hope they think carefully about how they roll this series out to make it a hit.
 
Disney Irish

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DisneyWarrior27 said:
We’ll see.

Sure the only daily drop I remember Disney doing for Disney+ was Season 2 of What If but it still was an animated show that benefitted in viewership ratings because of a daily drop.

Also, I would like to believe it will be fine and find an audience even if it’s good, but that’s what many assumed about Star Wars: The Acolyte and look how that turned out, cancelled after 1 season, despite critics liking it without loving it.

So, I hope they think carefully about how they roll this series out to make it a hit.
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While I personally liked Acolyte, a majority of the audience didn't like it for a variety of reasons. And that had no competition against it. So just having no competing series isn't a guarantee of higher audience engagement, and neither is dropping is daily. What is more of a guarantee of higher audience engagement is having a quality series that the audience wants to watch.

So again I don't really see the need in this case for it to drop daily just to avoid having episodes releasing at the same time as Daredevil episodes. Again there seemingly isn't going to be much cross over in the audience. Even if Daredevil was an animated show I wouldn't see a need to change the release schedule, as again its a different audience.

TV lasted for many decades with shows releasing at the same time, and they did just fine. And understand your want to make sure this show has every possibility for success, but releasing it at the same time as Daredevil I don't believe hinders its success.
 
DisneyWarrior27

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While I personally liked Acolyte, a majority of the audience didn't like it for a variety of reasons. And that had no competition against it. So just having no competing series isn't a guarantee of higher audience engagement, and neither is dropping is daily. What is more of a guarantee of higher audience engagement is having a quality series that the audience wants to watch.

So again I don't really see the need in this case for it to drop daily just to avoid having episodes releasing at the same time as Daredevil episodes. Again there seemingly isn't going to be much cross over in the audience. Even if Daredevil was an animated shows I wouldn't see a need to change the release schedule, as again its a different audience.

TV lasted for many decades with shows releasing at the same time, and they did just fine. And understand your want to make sure this show has every possibility for success, but releasing it at the same time as Daredevil I don't believe hinders its success.
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Well, we’ll see what happens next year.

But I would be cautious in just assuming Win Or Lose will be fine when animation doesn’t get enough marketing or love at Disney and MCU stuff does, which is why I worry about Daredevil: Born Again stealing the rug from down under with Win Or Lose, even with Daredevil: Born Again being rated TV-MA.
 
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DisneyWarrior27 said:
Well, we’ll see what happens next year.

But I would be cautious in just assuming Win Or Lose will be fine when animation doesn’t get enough marketing or love at Disney and MCU stuff does, which is why I worry about Daredevil: Born Again stealing the rug from down under with Win Or Lose, even with Daredevil: Born Again being rated TV-MA.
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Um have you been asleep this year, Pixar just had the highest grossing animated movie of all time release this year and was advertised everywhere. So they are marketing animation like crazy. I understand that with WDAS and Pixar over the last couple years it seems like Disney isn't in the animation business anymore, but nothing could be further from the truth. Shows like this and Dream and movies like Inside Out 2 show they still are deeply invested in animation and specifically in Pixar.

So again I wouldn't worry about Daredevil. Just hope the show is good, which I don't have any doubts at this point, and it'll do fine.
 
DisneyWarrior27

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Um have you been asleep this year, Pixar just had the highest grossing animated movie of all time release this year and was advertised everywhere. So they are marketing animation like crazy. I understand that with WDAS and Pixar over the last couple years it seems like Disney isn't in the animation business anymore, but nothing could be further from the truth. Shows like this and Dream and movies like Inside Out 2 show they still are deeply invested in animation and specifically in Pixar.

So again I wouldn't worry about Daredevil. Just hope the show is good, which I don't have any doubts at this point, and it'll do fine.
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Alright.
 
BrianLo

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MisterPenguin said:
Not cancelled, moved to a later debut (Feb 19)...

variety.com

‘Inside Out’ Spinoff Series ‘Dream Productions’ and Pixar’s ‘Win or Lose’ Set Disney+ Release Dates and Unveil New Footage

Pixar has set Disney+ release dates for its two upcoming television series, the 'Inside Out' spinoff 'Dream Productions' and 'Win or Lose.'
variety.com variety.com
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I can’t believe they delayed this series again… it was fully presentable two years ago now.

Though I get wanting to strike while the inside out iron is hot. But yeesh.
 
Phroobar

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BrianLo said:
I can’t believe they delayed this series again… it was fully presentable two years ago now.

Though I get wanting to strike while the inside out iron is hot. But yeesh.
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It just doesn't look that good. It reminds me Recess. Been there. Done that.
However an Inside Out show has potential for some fun situations.
 
Farerb

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Neither look too good to me. I hope Pixar doesn't do anymore TV series after that. They just hurt them
 
Farerb

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Prince-1 said:
So two shows that have not been released, "hurt them"??? Lol, ok.
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Putting more projects the studio has to do beside one or two films a year makes the studio spread thin. Animation is hard enough and to do high quality animation for TV is unsustainable financially. I rather Pixar focus on theatrical films and make them the best possible films they can instead of also making mediocre TV shows.
 
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Farerb said:
Putting more projects the studio has to do beside one or two films a year makes the studio spread thin. Animation is hard enough and to do high quality animation for TV is unsustainable financially. I rather Pixar focus on theatrical films and make them the best possible films they can instead of also making mediocre TV shows.
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I'm sorry but why can't a studio have two animations departments, one for movies and one for D+ series. Doesn't mean they are spread thin just because they have different animators working on different projects.
 
Prince-1

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Farerb said:
Putting more projects the studio has to do beside one or two films a year makes the studio spread thin. Animation is hard enough and to do high quality animation for TV is unsustainable financially. I rather Pixar focus on theatrical films and make them the best possible films they can instead of also making mediocre TV shows.
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Again, it’s hard to know if the shows are going to be mediocre without, ya know, actually seeing them. They may be crap or they might be great. Time will tell.
 
DisneyWarrior27

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Farerb said:
Putting more projects the studio has to do beside one or two films a year makes the studio spread thin. Animation is hard enough and to do high quality animation for TV is unsustainable financially. I rather Pixar focus on theatrical films and make them the best possible films they can instead of also making mediocre TV shows.
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Why do you think after Win Or Lose S1 and Dream Productions was completed that 14% of Pixar was laid off?
 
CinematicFusion

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It was clarified after you were corrected from your incorrect post.

But yes lets move on, I've commented on this series already in multiple posts, why haven't you?
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I think there might be some confusion. My earlier comment wasn’t about assigning fault but rather emphasizing that inflation is a complex issue influenced by multiple factors. The goal was to provide context and encourage a balanced perspective, not to oversimplify or make it about just one side.

As for the Disney series, I’ve already shared my thoughts and agree with Disney’s released statement: “When it comes to animated content for a younger audience, we recognize that many parents would prefer to discuss certain subjects with their children on their own terms and timeline.” I think this is a thoughtful approach that shows respect for families while fostering meaningful conversations.
 
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BrianLo

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I wonder if Win or Lose changed its release date again?…

Me:
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