Willow

Phroobar

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No, not really. It has a limited cult following now, but it's just that, limited. If Disney thought this would light the world on fire, shame on them (I have no idea what they expected). I'm guessing it was just a content push, and they had no real plans for it. You do this series to fill a genre gap in your programing in my opinion. And if you do a great job, you can build on it and expand because of the word of mouth.
True. It was more of a Lucasfilm footnote like Tucker and Radioland Murders. The toys were just small statues made by Tonka. As @TP2000 says, there wasn't any kids dressed up as Willow for Halloween.

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Phroobar

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There isn't a lot of Lucasfilm properties that aren't Star Wars or Indiana Jones.

American Graffiti - could be a cool 50s series but was kind of done by Happy Days.
Twice Upon A Time - totally needs to be rereleased on bluray & steaming. Very weird animation.
Mishima: A life in four chapters - bio pic
Labyrinth - Total target for Disney+
Howard the Duck - Can't be any worst than phase 4 MCU
Willow - crash and burn
Tucker: A man and his dream - bio pic
The Land Before Time - cow sucked dry by Universal years ago
Radioland Murders - could be a fun target for Disney+ if they include the Muppets!
Red Tails - I guess this could be adapted for Disney+ or Hulu.
Strange Magic - Total target for Disney+
 

Phroobar

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It's funny, but a lot of people here get mad when you use that as a way to gauge pop culture influence. It's not the end all be all, but it is representative of how popular something is.
They only get mad when Disney stuff is gauged that way for pop culture influence. The stores are drowning in Buzz Lightyear, Encanto, Raya, Wakanda Forever and now Little Mermaid stuff. Heck even Obi-Wan Kenobi and Andor stuff won't go away.
 
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Wendy Pleakley

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No, not really. It has a limited cult following now, but it's just that, limited. If Disney thought this would light the world on fire, shame on them (I have no idea what they expected). I'm guessing it was just a content push, and they had no real plans for it. You do this series to fill a genre gap in your programing in my opinion. And if you do a great job, you can build on it and expand because of the word of mouth.

I think it has enough name recognition that it would likely draw more people in than an original fantasy series. It's basically some free advertising.

I suspect if it had been good, people would have watched regardless of remembering, or not remembering, the original.

It just didn't hit the mark.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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It's funny, but a lot of people here get mad when you use that as a way to gauge pop culture influence. It's not the end all be all, but it is representative of how popular something is.

I think the problem is people using an arbitrary thing like Halloween costumes to dismiss a franchise, because they want it to be so and don't have anything else to go on.

Hence people who were insistent Avatar was not a popular franchise, trying to find something to justify their assertion, that the most popular movie of all time was immediately forgotten by everyone. Some of us were not surprised when that turned out not to be the case.
 

erasure fan1

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I think the problem is people using an arbitrary thing like Halloween costumes to dismiss a franchise, because they want it to be so and don't have anything else to go on.

Hence people who were insistent Avatar was not a popular franchise, trying to find something to justify their assertion, that the most popular movie of all time was immediately forgotten by everyone. Some of us were not surprised when that turned out not to be the case.
That's true. That's why I said it isn't the end all be all. With Avatar, I still stand behind saying for being as high grossing as it was, it left almost zero pop culture footprint. Did that translate into a bad box office for part 2? Obviously not. What Avatar has done, is blow everyone away with spectacle. Both were must see on the big screen and promoted that way. I don't think anything in Willows first season gives most a reason to want a season 2.
 

MoonRakerSCM

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God... This thread is giving PTSD... That awkward freeze frame cut in the second to last scene... Uggghhhh.

I had to rewind that one a couple times because I kept telling myself 'my stream skipped... No way they'd do that for realsies'.
 

mf1972

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no loss here. i gave up on it after a few episodes. i thought it was an interesting choice to bring it back, but it didn’t win me over.
 

Phroobar

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God... This thread is giving PTSD... That awkward freeze frame cut in the second to last scene... Uggghhhh.

I had to rewind that one a couple times because I kept telling myself 'my stream skipped... No way they'd do that for realsies'.
I take it you haven't watched many WB teen shows. That freeze frame is a thing.
 

TP2000

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It's funny, but a lot of people here get mad when you use that as a way to gauge pop culture influence. It's not the end all be all, but it is representative of how popular something is.

Thank you.

I find it to be a really good gauge of "what the kids are doing". Not scientific in any way, but seems to be a very solid barometer. For example, I saw Star Wars explode in popularity early in the 2010's and then almost die out completely by 2019. Zombies were also a big deal for a few years, but then superheroes took over. Sparkly princesses are a constant, however.

What has me concerned is that I recently moved. My old neighborhood was not gated and would crawl with kids and young families every October 31st. But now I live in a gated community that has kids and young families, but an equal number of childless homes too. This Halloween I'm going to be in a bubble with fewer trick-or-treaters, so the annual TP2000 Halloween Costume Cultural Barometer will be more limited than in years past. :(

Favorite Random Costume Memory: Mid 2010's. A young girl around 8 or 9 showed up on my doorstep one Halloween evening dressed elaborately as a sort of Sherlock Holmes detective character; English tweed cap, old fashioned overcoat, wool scarf, high button shoes, carrying a big magnifying glass, and she says "Trick or treat!". Taken aback I said "Uh, Sherlock Holmes?" and she peers through her magnifying glass and says "No. I'm the Orange County Candy Inspector and I'm here to inspect your offerings!". I died. 🤣
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
No season 2 for Willow on Disney+ -

"There will be no second season of Willow, Disney+’s live-action original series based on the 1988 fantasy film directed by Ron Howard. The news comes two months after the eight-episode first season of the show, which served as a sequel to the classic movie, ended its run on the streaming platform.

Willow, which picked up years after the events of the film, did not have the zeitgeist cultural impact of the original but was well received by critics, getting a 83% on Rotten Tomatoes. While the series won’t continue, Willow remains an important IP in the Lucasfilm library, so it might be revisited in the future.

The news comes as Lucasfilm has been reassessing its film slate, taking time to identify the next movie in the Star Wars franchise. Meanwhile, the company has built a sizable Star Wars TV footprint on Disney+ with such series as the live-action hit The Mandalorian and the upcoming Ahsoka, Acolyte and Skeleton Crew as well as animated fare.

The cancellation also comes amid increased scrutiny at the media companies, including Disney, which have been curbing streaming content spending in search of profitability."

That's too bad, I actually liked the series.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
True. It was more of a Lucasfilm footnote like Tucker and Radioland Murders. The toys were just small statues made by Tonka. As @TP2000 says, there wasn't any kids dressed up as Willow for Halloween.

iu
Oh crap, thanks so much for that. Now we get to hear more!
 
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doctornick

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I'm disappointed but not surprised. The show certainly had some flaws, but I generally enjoyed it and it was nice to have a different genre show on D+

I guess Percy Jackson will be kind of fantasy-ish once that rolls out.
 

Phroobar

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I'm disappointed but not surprised. The show certainly had some flaws, but I generally enjoyed it and it was nice to have a different genre show on D+

I guess Percy Jackson will be kind of fantasy-ish once that rolls out.
My guess is Percy Jackson will be in a similar WB format to Willow. It should lend itself better to that.
 

MickeyMouse10

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I couldn't make it through long enough to see Willow. So I watched some reviews online. Ugh, thank God I shut it off. It was actually worse than I thought it would be.

I can see why it was canceled!
 

MickeyMouse10

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I saw the series and I didn’t get that at all. There is one guy who comes off kind of goofy but he ends up saving the others more than once. What reviews did you read?

They're easy to find on Youtube.

If you like it than that's good for you, but I think it's awful. It's especially bad when you see something you love made into garbage (Live Action Remakes, Hocus Pocus, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, A Christmas Story, etc).
 

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