Will there ever be a ride that surpasses Spiderman at IOA?

[mkt]

Here's my opinion. On theme park attractions, I could care less about the tech. If it works, and it entertains me, then it was done right, technology be damned or praised.

 

[disneylands]

there stil hasn't been a ride (at either WDW or USF) to surpass it in terms of technological achievement.

that is a matter of opinion, there are several rides that have unique technology look at mission space, a ride that has made technological achievements but in uncomparable to spidey!

When I rode that ride about 5 years ago, i didnt think it was that good to be honest!

 

[grandmath]

I think a better question would be "Will there be another thrill ride that is as thrilling and is as much fun as Spider Man?" and I haven't seen one since Spidy was created. ROTM tried and failed miserably (in my opinion) and I do not expect Expedition Everest to be as thrilling as Spidy. I think Spider Man deserves to be in the same sentence with Splash Mountain and Tower of Terror as being the top 4 or 5 attractions in Central Florida. Mission Space is fun and is themed well, but I just do not find it to be all that intense or thrilling (but maybe that's just the tone of the attraction). The motion combined with the effects of Spidy make it seem so much more fun.

So I, for one, am still waiting for something to top Spider Man and I hope I don't have to wait too many more years

Well, I don't find Spidey to be that thrilling. It is a dark ride "on steroids". But I must confess I found it exhilarating. The whole combination of sets, screens, 3d and live effects as well as the motion make it a perfect ride for me. It is not even "too short"! Just perfect.

That said, I adore a lot of Disney attractions too! They are just different.

 

[S.E.A.]

Spider-Man is far and away the best ride of them all i'm afraid. although I could argue with Indy, ToT, Soarin' and Hunny Hunt. M:S, Splash, and JTTCOTE are honorable mentions.


I'll compare..

(1)Spider-Man - It completely immerses you in its story and it never gets too thrilling that you take yourself out of it. You really feel that you are a part of that battle between Spidey and those villains and that by the time you are falling, you really feel that you are going to fall to the ground. Plus, it perfectly captures the artistic visuals of the comic book world from which Spidey sprung out of.

(2)Pooh's Hunny Hunt - fun, whimsical, and downright magical, Pooh's Hunny Hunt is a truly wonderful experience. The use of the projections, Tigger's bouncing room, the big heffalump dance room finale, the trackless technology, this may very well be the answer to the question stated in this thread.

(3)Indiana Jones Adventure - a really close contender. this is a true adventure in every sense of the word and in my opinion is the ultimate dark ride. The only reason it's second is that it isn't as "free" as Spidey or Pooh But the effects that you experience more than make up for it.

(3)The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror (Florida) - The 5th dimmension room and the many eerie effects, not to mention the tremendous themeing, makes this free-fall ride stand out in every sense of the word. It could be a worthy contender against Spidey for the title.

(4)Soarin' - It may not be as technologically advanced as Spidey or the other rides I listed, but Soarin' is a truly magical experience. This attraction gives us teh experience of flight like no other has done before.

I say they are all really incomparable but if you really have to nitpick, Hunny Hunt takes the cake as an over-all better ride than Spider-man if not equally fantastic. It's not as thrilling but it doesn't have to be, it's just fun and crazy without fearing for your life too much. Plus, it packs a lot more ooh's and aahh's than Spider-Man does that goes by too quickly for you to fully appreciate its effects.

 

[Merlin]

I really do like both rides. Maybe you can explain why M:S is a more technologically advanced ride. Enlighten me, because I obviously don't know what I am talking about.

Good luck getting a valid response. It was a claim that can't be backed up.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Spider-Man is far and away the best ride of them all i'm afraid.

Hunny Hunt takes the cake as an over-all better ride than Spider-man...

Gah?

 

[S.E.A.]

Gah?

hehe sorry, I ended up arguing with myself and came to the conclusion that Hunyn hunt is a better ride than Spider-Man

 

[WDWFantasmic]

M:S, Splash, and JTTCOTE are honorable mentions.

You think JTTCOTE only deserves a honorable mention? I thought it was better than ToT or Indy because it's a lot more immersive and realistic. Have you seen the theming of this thing? It's breathtaking and the drop was an excellent climax to the ride.

 

[ThumpersThought]

It's funny how people perceive things differently. I found Spiderman incredibly boring. Sure, it was fine technology, but to me it feel like "Hey, here's an idea, let's move people to a movie, then to another, then to another..." So, I started saying to myself, "Time to move to the next screen, something will happen, then to the next screen..." I felt that Spiderman was a huge missed opportunity for a cool ride.

This is why we need different theme parks. No two people think alike...

 

[S.E.A.]

You think JTTCOTE only deserves a honorable mention? I thought it was better than ToT or Indy because it's a lot more immersive and realistic. Have you seen the theming of this thing? It's breathtaking and the drop was an excellent climax to the ride.

themeing does not equal over-all ride experience. So you go through a bunch of pretty underground scenes, see a monster then go really fast (in the dark no less, you don't even have decent scenery to look at while speeding), that's it. You have to be nuts to rank it above ToT, Indy or Pooh which have equally fantastic themeing.

 

[unkadug]

Will there ever be a ride that surpasses Spiderman at IOA?
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YES

 

[WDWFantasmic]

themeing does not equal over-all ride experience. So you go through a bunch of pretty underground scenes, see a monster then go really fast (in the dark no less, you don't even have decent scenery to look at while speeding), that's it. You have to be nuts to rank it above ToT, Indy or Pooh which have equally fantastic themeing.

I have to disagree. JTTCOTE does provide a better ride experience because it immerses you in this wonderful place, and you can ask many people who've been there. Indy and ToT are fantastic but just don't give you the feeling of awe that you get from Journey. It's not just a normal dark ride; it actually goes deeper and deeper and I guess that's why it feels so real. One could easily argue that Indy just goes from scene to scene also. At least JTTCOTE has a more realistic story and has one of the best queues in the world(better than Indy in setting the tone). JTTCOTE sets a new level for all dark/thrill rides because it combines excellent theming with great transitions and a thrilling finale.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

IMO, Spider-Man is a novelty...an interesting experience that's enjoyable but never loses the feeling that it's a ride/show. At no point riding it have I ever felt any sense of psychological "urgency" or "reality" from the story. It's sort of like playing a video game with a Rumble Pack: You get the occasional sensation to correspond with the action, but it does nothing to pull you into the pretend world. It's neat, but not immersive.

Personally, I found ROTM far more enjoyable (and immersive) than Spider-Man.

 

[S.E.A.]

I have to disagree. JTTCOTE does provide a better ride experience and you can ask many people who've been there. Indy and ToT are fantastic but just don't give you the feeling of awe that you get from Journey. It's not just a normal dark ride; it actually goes deeper and deeper and I guess that's why it feels so real. One could easily argue that Indy just goes from scene to scene also.

Indy goes through scenes which involve you. that makes you part of the expereince, not just an onlooker. Journey is a great ride, but if you compare it to the over-all experience of ToT, Hunny Hunt, Spider-Man, Soarin', and Indy, it ain't all that.

"it takes you deeper and deeper" so what? you're underground, I can do that in my basement.

And that awe feeling is almost immediately extracted by riding Soarin'; by by taking on Indy, by the 5th dimmension room, by the entirety of Pooh's hunny hunt.


and speaking of realistic story: "there's a lava worm under the earth" ponder on that

and one of the best queues in the world? so are Indy and ToT

 

[S.E.A.]

At least JTTCOTE has a more realistic story and has one of the best queues in the world(better than Indy in setting the tone). JTTCOTE sets a new level for all dark/thrill rides because it combines excellent theming with great transitions and a thrilling finale.

and these four surpass it:

Pooh's Hunny Hunt

The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror

Indiana Jones Adventure

The Adventures of Spider-Man

btw. your constant editing is annoying and juvenile.

 

[WDWFantasmic]

Indy goes through scenes which involve you. that makes you part of the expereince, not just an onlooker. Journey is a great ride, but if you compare it to the over-all experience of ToT, Hunny Hunt, Spider-Man, Soarin', and Indy, it ain't all that.

"it takes you deeper and deeper" so what? you're underground, I can do that in my basement.

And that awe feeling is almost immediately extracted by riding Soarin'; by by taking on Indy, by the 5th dimmension room, by the entirety of Pooh's hunny hunt.


and speaking of realistic story: "there's a lava worm under the earth" ponder on that

and one of the best queues in the world? so are Indy and ToT

I just feel JTTCOTE is the better ride because the experience is just breathtaking, not comparable to "going down to a basement".:brick:
The entire theme is more realistic than Indy or Pooh's Hunny Hunt because it can relate to real life. In Indy, why are we driving around the temple? How is this possible? I understand if you think differently, but the majority of people who've been there will agree that JTTCOTE is the better ride. It simply immerses you more than the other rides. No argument.

 

[S.E.A.]

I just feel JTTCOTE is the better ride because the experience is just breathtaking, not comparable to "going down to a basement".:brick:
The entire theme is more realistic than Indy or Pooh's Hunny Hunt because it can relate to real life. In Indy, why are we driving around the temple? How is this possible? I understand if you think differently, but the majority of people who've been there will agree that JTTCOTE is the better ride.

you honestly think that it's a better ride than all those others just because it's theme is "realistic"?

I think that reason alone makes the other 4 better because they don't have to be realistic, you are immersed in its own reality therefore making it a much much better experience.

JTTCOTE is a great ride, don't get me wrong, it's jsut not as good as ToT, Indy, Hunny Hunt, or Spider-Man in terms of over-all experience.


argument over, you lose

 

[WDWFantasmic]

If you don't want to listen to me, look at this http://www.mouseplanet.com/tokyo/tdstour/tdsridesjourney02.htm
and this http://www.themeparkinsider.com/reviews/tokyo_disneysea/journey_to_the_center_of_the_earth/
If you think all those people are lying, then you are mistaken. I understand if you feel that way but the majority sure doesn't.

"This attraction is truly a home run. Disney swung for the fences and nailed it. Journey to the Center of the Earth combines an innovative (and refined) ride system with incredibly intricate detailing and a great premise. Imagineering has delivered one of the truly great rides in Disney's history, it delivers all the thrills one could want without limiting its appeal to any one age group. This attraction offers a chance to see things you will not see or could not see anywhere outside of this park and it executes it all with loving care.

Perhaps the best indicator of how good this attraction is, is asking if it merits repeat rides. We experienced it 15 or 16 times, by far the most of anything we saw. And we were not alone as many people get off just to line right back up to ride again. On a scale of one to four stars Journey to the Center of the Earth demands four shining ones, and a place at the very top of my list of best theme park attractions in the world."​

P.S- Nobody lose the argument. We can both stick with our opinions, ok?

 

[S.E.A.]

If you don't want to listen to me, look at this http://www.mouseplanet.com/tokyo/tdstour/tdsridesjourney02.htm
and this http://www.themeparkinsider.com/reviews/tokyo_disneysea/journey_to_the_center_of_the_earth/


"This attraction is truly a home run. Disney swung for the fences and nailed it. Journey to the Center of the Earth combines an innovative (and refined) ride system with incredibly intricate detailing and a great premise. Imagineering has delivered one of the truly great rides in Disney's history, it delivers all the thrills one could want without limiting its appeal to any one age group. This attraction offers a chance to see things you will not see or could not see anywhere outside of this park and it executes it all with loving care.

Perhaps the best indicator of how good this attraction is, is asking if it merits repeat rides. We experienced it 15 or 16 times, by far the most of anything we saw. And we were not alone as many people get off just to line right back up to ride again. On a scale of one to four stars Journey to the Center of the Earth demands four shining ones, and a place at the very top of my list of best theme park attractions in the world."​

dude, it's a great ride, it really is. i just think you're dumb and prejudiced in ranking it above all the other rides. those articles don't mean a thing as they aren't comparing it to other great rides. And at the time it's still basking in the glow of it being a great new original ride. It's still nowhere near as thrlling and immersive as Spidey, Pooh, Indy and the first Tower.

and the more you try to argue the more you're making me hate this ride.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

JTTCOTE is the better ride. It simply immerses you more than the other rides. No argument.

JTTCOTE is a great ride, don't get me wrong, it's jsut not as good as ToT, Indy, Hunny Hunt, or Spider-Man in terms of over-all experience.


argument over, you lose

The cool thing about debating is that declaring the argument over rarely does anything to end the argument. The topics being debated here are decidedly subjective, which means reasonable people can argue about them until the end of time. :wave: