Will LMA save the Demize of Disney MGM Studios

[Christina]

I'm not even going to go into the Walt thing. You don't know how Walt would feel about half of the things in Disney... he might of liked 'em, he might of not. Obviously if you insist on bringing him in, I find it stupid because since he's quite sadly NOT alive you don't have his opinon on the "demise" of his parks!

And I hate to break it to you, but I'd say about 98% of people who go to Disney are completely satisfied with what they experience - especially if there first timers. :wave: GOODDNIIIIIIIGHT WDWMAGIC

I'll continue this tommorrow if I get bashed.

 

[Thebrerrabbit]

ok.........walt never cared about money......never....never wanted to charge to enter to DL, and it wasent untill after roy died(the money mastermind of the pair) that they raised it over 2.25. maybe you should really do some reasearch on Walt. To be quite honest with you, walt made his feelings very well known.

BTW you mentioned that they expect "record numbers". lets think back to 100yom, where record numbers were expected, and they didnt reach 1/5 of it.

 

[CSOM]

ok.........walt never cared about money......never....never wanted to charge to enter to DL, and it wasent untill after roy died(the money mastermind of the pair) that they raised it over 2.25. maybe you should really do some reasearch on Walt. To be quite honest with you, walt made his feelings very well known.

BTW you mentioned that they expect "record numbers". lets think back to 100yom, where record numbers were expected, and they didnt reach 1/5 of it.

Walt's also been dead for over 20 years, and never ran his parks in the very difficult economic times of the early 21st century. Walt had no hand in Disney MGM studios, remember that was Eisner's baby (shh, I know). No guests no parks, but no profits = no shareholders = no investment = no parks also... I know most of us like to deny that fact, but unfortunately it is true.

 

[CoffeeJedi]

(side note) I dunno why but for some reason everytime i im in MGM, i think about Roger Rabbit, maybe its cause it came out in 89, but theres just somthing about it

the first year it opened, it practically was the Roger Rabbit park. Maroon Studios Cartoon billboards, posters for the Red Line, and lots of other subtle and not-so-subtle elements were scattered all over the park. The Dipmobile used to be on the backlot tour, and the prop warehouse contained alot of direct gags lifted from the warehouse sequence in the movie.

I've always liked the art-deco Hollywood that-never-was half of the park over the "production studio" half anyway.

(btw: what is a 'demize'? is that anything like a 'demise'?)

 

[Shaman]

The Studios needs some work...LMA will help in the meantime...but Disney needs to work on The Studios before anything else...even before they start more work on AK...

 

[wannab@dis]

The Studios needs some work...LMA will help in the meantime...but Disney needs to work on The Studios before anything else...even before they start more work on AK...

I also believe that the Studios needs some work and parts are tired.

Wouldn't you agree that it's a far cry from saying the "demise" of the Studios (or any of the parks for that matter) is happening?

 

[Shaman]

ok.........walt never cared about money......never....never wanted to charge to enter to DL, and it wasent untill after roy died(the money mastermind of the pair) that they raised it over 2.25. maybe you should really do some reasearch on Walt. To be quite honest with you, walt made his feelings very well known.

BTW you mentioned that they expect "record numbers". lets think back to 100yom, where record numbers were expected, and they didnt reach 1/5 of it.

Nevertheless...Disney is a business, even if us fans choose to overlook this in an effort to keep the "magic"....of course there are right and wrong ways to run a business...

Besides...Walt didn't want a huge resort complex with four parks and multiple resorts for his FLA project...if I remember correctly wasn't it an experimental prototype city of tomorrow....so it could be said he would be fairly angry with what came about in Florida.

Just some thoughts.

 

[Shaman]

I also believe that the Studios needs some work and parts are tired.

Wouldn't you agree that it's a far cry from saying the "demise" of the Studios (or any of the parks for that matter) is happening?

Last time I checked wasn't The Studios ahead of DCA in attendance...and ahead of other parks in the nation? So yes...nothing close to demise territory...yet...

 

[Thebrerrabbit]

Besides...Walt didn't want a huge resort complex with four parks and multiple resorts for his FLA project...if I remember correctly wasn't it an experimental prototype city of tomorrow....so it could be said he would be fairly angry with what came about in Florida.

Just some thoughts.

Hey, I completly agree with you, i mean, walts plans were for A park, and epcot, ya know, i guess things change, which explains alot

 

[Coasterbp]

BTW you mentioned that they expect "record numbers". lets think back to 100yom, where record numbers were expected, and they didnt reach 1/5 of it.

Yeah, let's also think back to when 100YOM was supposed to happen, hmmm, wasn't that around Sept, 2001? Hmm, did anything happen around that time that might have dampered attendance at everything?

 

[Christina]

Glad to see some of you agree with me! :wave:

 

[Shaman]

Hey, I completly agree with you, i mean, walts plans were for A park, and epcot, ya know, i guess things change, which explains alot

It could be said that Walt was lightyears ahead of his time....

 

[DarkMeasures]

On the note of this topic, I dont think the park will ever become a working studio again. The concept doesn't work well at all outside of Hollywood. I mean Disney would have success at adding a park adjacent to their Burbank studio but otherwise, the idea is dead.

I think the best idea would be to continue to add more attractions like Rock N Rollercoaster, LMA, and Tower of Terror. These attractions lead a nod to the movie industry but yet execute the idea of a Movie park different from Universal which leads to more good with the different styles of movie park.

I guess though that eventually those Sound Stages will be left to be all dark rides and shows and probably the entrance road and canal will be moved to make for more room.

 

[DarkMeasures]

ok.........walt never cared about money......never....never wanted to charge to enter to DL, and it wasent untill after roy died(the money mastermind of the pair) that they raised it over 2.25. maybe you should really do some reasearch on Walt. To be quite honest with you, walt made his feelings very well known.

BTW you mentioned that they expect "record numbers". lets think back to 100yom, where record numbers were expected, and they didnt reach 1/5 of it.

And also noting your other comments, you can't base running Disney on "What would Walt do?" It just doesn't work. The Disney company almost ran out of buisness in the early 80's because of the idea of running the company on the "What would Walt do?" prospect.

 

[nibblesandbits]

On the note of this topic, I dont think the park will ever become a working studio again. The concept doesn't work well at all outside of Hollywood. I mean Disney would have success at adding a park adjacent to their Burbank studio but otherwise, the idea is dead.

I think the best idea would be to continue to add more attractions like Rock N Rollercoaster, LMA, and Tower of Terror. These attractions lead a nod to the movie industry but yet execute the idea of a Movie park different from Universal which leads to more good with the different styles of movie park.

I guess though that eventually those Sound Stages will be left to be all dark rides and shows and probably the entrance road and canal will be moved to make for more room.

I think that's totally true. MGM will never become a working studio again and in my opinion, the only direction they could go with for that park is to continue putting in movie-type rides in. If they kept doing that, then MGM has the potential of being one really stellar park.

 

[MKCP 1985]

If you judge the Disney-MGM Studios Park by its original vision, it failed because it did not turn out to be really a working studio and I agree that it will not be one in the future . . . BUT
The Disney-MGM Studios Park is not on the decline and does not need LMAX to save it by any stretch. This is a great theme park loaded with memorable attractions for a different audience than is sought by the Magic Kingdom. If you combined all the Walt Disney World attractions and came up with a top list, the Disney-MGM Studios Park would be well represented. Tower of Terror and Rock n RollerCoaster would be at or near the very top, right up there with the Mountains of the Magic Kingdom. The Great Movie Ride's Wizard of Oz scene is as good an audio-animatronic experience for all ages as exists at WDW. People wait for 1 and 1/2 to 2 hours to watch Fantasmic. The Muppets 3-D theater is a great attraction and other attractions including Voyage of the Little Mermaid and Star Tours are for all ages. For Walt Disney traditionalists, the Walt Disney: One Man's Dream is an absolute treasure to be enjoyed without the annoyance of long queues.
Anyhow, I love the Disney-MGM Studios Park, with or without LMAX. I am very much looking forward to LMAX, but I was going back to that park on my next visit anyway!

 

[DarkMeasures]

On another note, due to the way the park has changed, I would say the Backlot Tram tour's days are really numbered. That is unless someone finds a way to expand the ride.

 

[JLW11Hi]

yeah, I agree. Since the studio is basically coming extreemly close to admitting that its not an actual working studio, the backlot tour is kinda pointless. I think it would make sence for them to have a backlot tour as a premice, or facade for a sort of "fake" tour of the "studio" or Hollywood. So, basically, make it look like one of those many studio/Hollywood tours you see in Hollywood, but have the tram go out of control, barging into sets filming movies, across LA, etc.

....I think I may have described that a little to closely resembling Super Star Limo..... I've never ridden it, but regardless of how bad it may have been, its still a good premise for a good attraction for MGM, I think!

 

[StitchRox]

I think ________ tracy would be so awesome. That is one of my favortie movies ever. It is so aawesomeo! I hope they bring ________ tracy because in the end it would be a lot better ride than the great movie ride. That thing is such a snooze fest. At least update the movies every year. Yes a ________ tracy ride would be a key to making Disney MGM studios great again!

 

[Montu]

I'm not sure I understand the sudden band of support for the D ick_______ Show that used to be in the park. Did anyone really care about that D ick______ Show when it was open? Do you really think the average family got off the parking lot tram and said "Forget Star Tours! Forget the Great Movie Ride! Let's go straight to the D ick ______ Show!!!" I don't really remember it being all that popular. Honestly, I just doubt many people really went out of their way to see the D ick _____ Show to begin with. The movie about D ick_____ was pretty cool, but I don't think it stands the test of time to have an attraction based on D ick_______ at the Studios anymore.