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Will Disneyland USA suffer? ALL Of Disney's Theme Parks Now Closed - Reopening Dates Unknown
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TheRealBobIger
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mandelbrot
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One of the biggest conventions of the year (Natural Products, 85,000+ attendees) which was to take place this week has been postponed due to coronavirus fears.
There may be a number of employees that work in the tourism industry that may be in trouble paying their upcoming monthly expenses.
Iran released 54,000 prisoners because of the Coronavirus.... when asked what are you going to do now, they all said " I`m going to Disneyland "
www.businessinsider.com
8% of Iran's parliament has the coronavirus, and it released 54,000 prisoners as the country descends into chaos
Iran appears to have the highest number of government officials infected with the novel coronavirus.
www.businessinsider.com
thenerdbaker
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Not Disneyland related per say but I work at a vet clinic in Seattle near UW and we are starting to have people cancel appointments with us. It can take up to 6 months to get in with us and we usually have very few people cancel. It makes me wonder how many vacations are starting to be canceled. Seattle is very interesting right now with everything going on.
Latest update on the virus, WHO saying there is now a 3.4% death rate globally for it, higher than the previously thought 2%. Compare this to, "just the flu" at 0.1%. If the virus had the same infection rate as the flu has had this season so far, there would be over 1 million deaths.
I would link the article, but when I do that my posts get washed away for about 12 hours it seems.
I would link the article, but when I do that my posts get washed away for about 12 hours it seems.
How many people have actually been tested for Covid-19 though in the last 90 days, as opposed to the tens of millions of people on Earth who had what they thought was a cold or mild flu in December, January or February and were never tested for Covid-19 Coronavirus?
If you could test everyone on the planet who had some respiratory illness in the last 90 days, the number of cases of Covid-19 would skyrocket. And that would lower the 3.4% mortality rate greatly, probably down to flu-like numbers.
In other news, 9 people have now died in the United States because of Covid-19 Coronavirus, six of them in Washington state. And Washingtonians make up a big chunk of Disneyland visitors, especially this time of year when they head down to SoCal to escape the rain.
So we are about halfway to the number of deaths it would take to close Disneyland USA. 11 more deaths to go, if my math is correct.
smooch
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I want to just mention my personal experience with this whole situation and how my family is reacting. There are two students at my school that were exposed to Coronavirus, but did not contract it, but they have been asked to self quarantine for 14 days and they are doing so. My girlfriend's sister lives in Davis and there was word about Coronavirus down there but from what I saw the students tested were cleared. It is definitely making it's way towards where I live, and the panic is kicking in here. Stores are out of disinfectant wipes and sprays, sanitizers, and even paper towels. My mother is an absolute germophobe, when we travel she doesn't even like sleeping in hotel beds which I can sort of understand but even at a very nice hotel like the Four Seasons when we stayed there she uses this weird cocoon sleeping bag type thing that she sleeps in. It's basically an extremely thin sleeping bag that you sleep in under the covers of the bed and use the hood of it so you don't touch the blanket, covers, or pillows. She tells me and my brothers to wash our hands every single time we come home, even though I have long done this anyways because I have common sense and don't want to get sick, yet she has been in overdrive. Today she went out to Bath and Body Works to get the little portable sanitizers and she literally bought 40 of them, I am terrified to know how much she spent. She called me yelling at me that she got me sanitizer to put in my bag, even though I already have 3 sanitizers, 1 in each of my bags that I use depending on the situation (backpack, sling, messenger bag) but I ended up taking two sanitizers just to ease her anxiety and I liked the way they smell, we had these little sanitizers at each register when I worked at GameStop cause the manager's girlfriend worked at Bath and Body Works. I keep my hands away from my face and mouth, I just use common sense. She is treating this like the end of the world, and I know that nobody wants to get Coronavirus, but she is so dramatic about it like everyone else is in my opinion. We flew recently for my aunt's wedding and when we got in our seats we wiped down the arm rests, head rest, and the tray table in front of us, and I agree with that. However, while sitting waiting in the airport I literally thought she was going to have a mental breakdown, she was so terrified of having to be near anybody and if a single person even sneezed once and never even coughed or showed any other symptoms of a sickness, she would jolt away in panic.
I'm not dismissing how serious this is and can become, but people are freaking out so much about this and like mentioned earlier it's because of the politics of the virus and for media clicks. I truly hate what American media has become, our top news sources are just becoming BuzzFeed clickbait versions of themselves. She refuses to go out in public unless absolutely necessary, to a point that is beyond reasonable. I agree social media is very useful in the quick spread of thoughts and information (and memes) but I can't stand how it has caused anything that happens to blow so far out of proportion. It has allowed things like "Cancel Culture" where people hear something and without even verifying what the read, they believe it and are quick to spread misinformation and to try to get people's careers ruined over something that is a lie. I'm not talking about anything in particular, it just illustrates to me how social media has become an extremely dangerous and toxic way to receive news, but even "professional" news outlets are doing this too now.
I'm not dismissing how serious this is and can become, but people are freaking out so much about this and like mentioned earlier it's because of the politics of the virus and for media clicks. I truly hate what American media has become, our top news sources are just becoming BuzzFeed clickbait versions of themselves. She refuses to go out in public unless absolutely necessary, to a point that is beyond reasonable. I agree social media is very useful in the quick spread of thoughts and information (and memes) but I can't stand how it has caused anything that happens to blow so far out of proportion. It has allowed things like "Cancel Culture" where people hear something and without even verifying what the read, they believe it and are quick to spread misinformation and to try to get people's careers ruined over something that is a lie. I'm not talking about anything in particular, it just illustrates to me how social media has become an extremely dangerous and toxic way to receive news, but even "professional" news outlets are doing this too now.
SuddenStorm
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Just thinking of the logistics of closing Disneyland for any amount of time is mind boggling.
What happens to the tens of thousands of hourly cast members relying on Disney to make rent if the resort closes?
Or annual passholders who throw a fit about the unplanned closures? Or the hundreds of hotel rooms that are booked?
How does Disney properly shut down the parks for any amount of time? All of the food that would spoil, plants that need to be maintained, and preventative maintenance for the attractions to keep those things running efficiently?
What about all of the neighbor hotels and businesses along Harbor that rely on Disneyland tourists to pay their employees?
And the impact on Anaheim's local economy- how much tax revenue does Disneyland generate each year?
What happens to the tens of thousands of hourly cast members relying on Disney to make rent if the resort closes?
Or annual passholders who throw a fit about the unplanned closures? Or the hundreds of hotel rooms that are booked?
How does Disney properly shut down the parks for any amount of time? All of the food that would spoil, plants that need to be maintained, and preventative maintenance for the attractions to keep those things running efficiently?
What about all of the neighbor hotels and businesses along Harbor that rely on Disneyland tourists to pay their employees?
And the impact on Anaheim's local economy- how much tax revenue does Disneyland generate each year?
smooch
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I've been trying to imagine the consequences of DLR and WDW closing and I don't really think I can truly imagine it. I feel like Anaheim would have a really really tough time with all the surrounding businesses that rely on DLR guests. WDW would be interesting because it is an entire city, so it would be interesting to see how that would affect what is closed and what the procedures would be.
Here's the thing, how many people get the flu and are never reported?
You keep saying "Oh well it's because there are cases that are mild enough to not be reported." but that's also the case with the flu. How many people bundle up at home, eat chicken soup for a week and recover? I know I have when I caught the flu in the past. I didn't rush to the ER, call the CDC and make sure they knew I had the flu to add it to the number of reported cases.
Yes there will be undiagnosed cases, but there are also those undiagnosed cases with the flu. The only real info I can find on undiagnosed flu cases is for New Zealand and says about 80% of potential (aka flu-like) cases are never properly diagnosed.
Not to insult you or anything, but I would trust the WHO over a poster on a disney forum any day.
socalifornian
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Hypothetically speaking, suddenly the old Harbor bridge plan might not sound like a bad amount of guests to them
I wouldn't trust me to provide any medical advice to anyone. I said that earlier about myself and I stand by it.
But if you want to assume 3% of everyone who gets the Coronavirus is randomly going to die, then go ahead. If I actually believed that statistic, I wouldn't leave my house for the next six months. I'm older, but have no underlying health issues like morbid obesity, diabetes, cancer or HIV, so I'm not worried even if I believed the United Nations and their vaunted bureaucrats.
I left the house today and will leave the house tomorrow. I will continue to live my life. And I'd bet twenty churros I'm still here six months from now to talk about it. Unless I get hit by a bus and die.
There are many things getting cancelled such as leisure activities and discretionary spending in other areas too. The people that work in these industries will have challenges meeting their financial obligations.
Communicora
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