Will Disney ever stop using christmas (A religious holiday) to broaden their audiences?

[Mr Ferret 75]

Hrm....what's this?



(Though, I probably shouldn't mention that she looks a lot like the slave witch who killed Kahl Drogo in Game of Thrones)

You got this in the wrong thread dude. Jasmines new look is bieng discussed elsewhere

 

[englanddg]

You got this in the wrong thread dude. Jasmines new look is bieng discussed elsewhere

She's one of a group of pavilion specific storytellers brought out during December at EPCOT to talk about and teach about other holidays. She, covers Ramadan.

There's another one, for example, who talks about Kwanzaa.



And, before anyone wonders about why she's in the American pavilion...it's because, Kwanzaa was made up by an American, about 50 years ago.

 

[iHeartDisneylandCats]

You got this in the wrong thread dude. Jasmines new look is bieng discussed elsewhere

 

[Siren]

Hanukkah,Ramadan and KwanzaaI to name a few. I just think it's dumb that Disney doesn't really embrace any other holidays during the time of Christmas. It's basically a screw you to any other religion or culture having a holiday during that time. Especially a place like epcot or animal kingdom should educate on the differences between other cultures holidays and what they are. All they would have to do is include a few pieces of different holidays music in the holiday shows and parade and change ALL the names to the parties, shows, parades to holidays instead of christmas.

Thanks so much for responding. I see your point, but I don't think that Disney is being disrespectful toward other religions or cultures.

With that said, I wouldn't mind seeing what different cultures celebrate in addition to Christmas during the holidays at AK or Epcot.

 

[englanddg]

Thanks so much for responding. I see your point, but I don't think that Disney is being disrespectful toward other religions or cultures.

With that said, I wouldn't mind seeing what different cultures celebrate in addition to Christmas during the holidays at AK or Epcot.

There are people who confuse paying respect with being disrespectful. And, they are fools, frankly.

Especially when said respect belongs to a culture they have deemed unacceptable in their own minds (and very likely, belong to, so, it's really sort of a leftover intellectual issue from teenaged anti-parental "revolution").

 

[Horizons78]

Shame to waste this in a cannon fodder thread....oh well.

 

[Siren]

There are people who confuse paying respect with being disrespectful. And, they are fools, frankly.

Especially when said respect belongs to a culture they have deemed unacceptable in their own minds (and very likely, belong to, so, it's really sort of a leftover intellectual issue from teenaged anti-parental "revolution").

Hi @englanddg! I don't understand what you mean by this. Do you agree with me or not?

I wouldn't mind seeing other holidays and cultures celebrated at Disney. But, I don't think Disney is being disrespectful to those cultures just because they're not currently represented in the parks. Disney World used to have a church on property -- Christianity and Christian ideals is rooted in the history of this park much like our nation.

I really liked the Youtube video with the Kwanzaa celebration. I'm beginning to think that we're just not aware of everything that Disney offers during the Christmas time. World Showcase has a lot of culture stuff going on during the holidays that's not widely known. So, does AK.

 

[englanddg]

Hi @englanddg! I don't understand what you mean by this. Do you agree with me or not?

I wouldn't mind seeing other holidays and cultures celebrated at Disney. But, I don't think Disney is being disrespectful to those cultures just because they're not currently represented in the parks. Disney World used to have a church on property.

I really liked the Youtube video with the Kwanzaa celebration. I'm beginning to think that we're just not aware of everything that Disney offers during the Christmas time. World Showcase has a lot of culture stuff going on during the holidays that's not widely known. So, does AK.

I don't agree nor disagree with you. I do, however, fervently disagree with those who choose to find offense in everything (as some in this thread have already indicated they lean), and those who see exclusion of certain practices without inclusion of others, especially for the sake of inclusion alone, as "progressive". It's not. It just assuages their own personal social guilt, or gives them a feeling of mock superiority.

Disney didn't completely push it off property. For example, you can go to services at the Contemporary on Christmas and Easter. There is a dedicated prayer room in the Morocco pavilion that even offers prayer rugs so Guests do not need to furnish their own.

They did used to do it, one service for Catholics, one for Protestants, every Sunday until the early 2000s (services at Polynesian, over in the Luau area), and cost Disney nothing but allowing for the space...but the practice was stopped, partially because of "inclusion" claims and supposed "complaints" (though, note, the dedicated prayer room in Morocco wasn't limited or removed, nor even mentioned by those "complaining").

It's easier to exclude, as a policy, than to include, because once you start down the path of catering to those who choose to be offended at everything, it never ends, so that's the choice Disney made.

Rather sad really (and, I'm not religious at all...but...)...

 

[Siren]

I don't agree nor disagree with you. I do, however, fervently disagree with those who choose to find offense in everything (as some in this thread have already indicated they lean), and those who see exclusion of certain practices without inclusion of others, especially for the sake of inclusion alone, as "progressive". It's not. It just assuages their own personal social guilt, or gives them a feeling of mock superiority.

Disney didn't completely push it off property. For example, you can go to services at the Contemporary on Christmas and Easter. There is a dedicated prayer room in the Morocco pavilion that even offers prayer rugs so Guests do not need to furnish their own.

They did used to do it, one service for Catholics, one for Protestants, every Sunday until the early 2000s (non-denominational services at Polynesian, over in the Luau area), and cost Disney nothing but allowing for the space...but the practice was stopped, partially because of "inclusion" claims and supposed "complaints" (though, note, the dedicated prayer room in Morocco wasn't limited or removed, nor even mentioned by those "complaining").

It's easier to exclude, as a policy, than to include, because once you start down the path of catering to those who choose to be offended at everything, it never ends, so that's the choice Disney made.

Rather sad really (and, I'm not religious at all...but...)...

Wow! Thank you for such an eloquent response. I totally agree with everything you've written here. I'm not religious either, but I am spiritual.

It's wonderful that Disney has church at the Contemporary on Christmas and Easter. I've always wanted to attend the Gospel Brunch at House of Blues, too.

And, I didn't even know that Disney has a prayer room in Morocco for guests. This gesture alone should be enough for guests to realize that Disney respects and embraces all cultures.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Wow! Thank you for such an eloquent response. I totally agree with everything you've written here. I'm not religious either, but I am spiritual.

It's wonderful that Disney has church at the Contemporary on Christmas and Easter. I've always wanted to attend the Gospel Brunch at House of Blues, too.

And, I didn't even know that Disney has a prayer room in Morocco for guests. This gesture alone should be enough for guests to realize that Disney respects and embraces all cultures.As long as they have cash to spend.

Fixed that for you Dude

 

[lazyboy97o]

Hanukkah,Ramadan and KwanzaaI to name a few. I just think it's dumb that Disney doesn't really embrace any other holidays during the time of christmas.

If you're going to include something, maybe make the minimal effort to see if it is actually appropriate. Ramadan is a month in the Islamic calendar which does not align itself to the Gregorian calendar. This year the month aligned mostly with June with Eid al-Fitr being on July 7.

 

[roj2323]

@wdwmagic Can we kill this thread please?

 

[Raineman]

@wdwmagic Can we kill this thread please?

I agree. Can we keep religion and politics away from any discussion on here? There are enough heated arguments without throwing religion in there.

 

[Dead2009]

Disney celebrating Christmas like the rest of us? For shame! How DARE they!

If you don't like Disney celebrating a holiday, don't go during that time.

 

[rob0519]

forget the popcorn i believe this would be more appropriate here
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Nothing says Holy Holidays quite like alcohol and gingerbread men!

 

[rob0519]

In answer to the OP's question, no, Disney will not ever stop celebrating Christmas. It brings in $$$.

This, several million times. $$$$$$$

 

[The Mom]

In answer to the OP's question, no, Disney will not ever stop celebrating Christmas. It brings in $$$.

Until it doesn't. And then they will stop. Which I think answers the OPs question - and I think he/she didn't really want an answer to begin with.