Will Disney close DHS?

El Grupo

Well-Known Member
I think a good question is how will they justify the price with all of the closed attractions? Will they reduce the price, If attendance suffers?

I suspect that the vast majority of guests to WDW purchase a multi-day pass so that they can visit all the parks. My guess is that the number of people buying a DHS-only ticket is quite small in comparison.

With that said, I believe the difference between a 3-day and 4-day standard pass is around $30. JMO, but that is not to difficult to justify even with the closed attractions.
 

MagicHappens1971

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
It's a funny thing...we just came back and my 16 year old stated that DHS is one of his favourite parks. I was a little surprised but found it interesting. It may get a lot worse in the months and years to come and his opinion may change but for now there is still some value for some. That being said I can't wait for the improvements to start and more importantly FINISH. I am quite excited for what they have in store.
DHS is actually my favorite park. Well it's tied with MK but they're my favorites.
 

POLY LOVER

Well-Known Member
How do you figure "half the park"? Backlot and the Jack Sparrow attraction have closed. American Idol closed, but was replaced with the Frozen Sing Along. Animation closed but is being replaced by the Star Wars Launch Pad. They have also added Watto's Grotto. So there probably haven't been that many CM's displaced yet.

Well let's see , they close, Indy, the car stunt show, sounds dangerous, Hollywood and vine, American idol, world of animation, jack sparrow, the backlot tour and streets of New York area this is what i read I could be wrong. Besides all of the construction and detours around the park will be uncomfortable at best.
Seems like a lot for guest to deal with?
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Well let's see , they close, Indy, the car stunt show, sounds dangerous, Hollywood and vine, American idol, world of animation, jack sparrow, the backlot tour and streets of New York area this is what i read I could be wrong. Besides all of the construction and detours around the park will be uncomfortable at best.
Seems like a lot?

The original poster seemed to be imply that half the park had already closed, that is what I was responding to.
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
I suspect that the vast majority of guests to WDW purchase a multi-day pass so that they can visit all the parks. My guess is that the number of people buying a DHS-only ticket is quite small in comparison.

With that said, I believe the difference between a 3-day and 4-day standard pass is around $30. JMO, but that is not to difficult to justify even with the closed attractions.
I agree with this, however a large number do not purchase the park hopper option. In fact MM+ really encourages guests not to park hop as it's not an option for FP+ selections. Once all these things close or even now for that matter this is not a full day park. if someone pairs this with a pool day, some time at DTD or off property stuff like the outlets or Old Town then I could see it being okay. If someone is going into it as a full day experience there going to be disappointed.
 

Retroman40

Well-Known Member
I would like someone to enlighten me about how DHS is a "less than a full day park" at the present time. Assuming you arrive at rope drop and stay for an 8:30 Fantasmic, I find it hard to believe that even with FP+ and shorter than average wait times that you can experience every show (Frozen Sing A Long, Voyage of the LM, Beauty and the Beast, LMA, IJESS, Disney Jr, Live on Stage, Muppet Vission 3D), ride every true ride (TSMM, RNRC, HTT, Great Movie Ride, Star Tours), eat twice (perhaps one TS and one QS restaurant), perhaps spend a little time with the kids in the Honey I Shrunk the Kids area, wander about the Streets of America (and all streets for that matter) and maybe even do a little shopping and have very much time left over. I even left out things like the Jedi Training Academy and viewing the Frozen short movie. If there are attractions you chose not to experience that's your personal preference.

As far as the "half day" park claim - unless you are doing a Clark Griswold at the Grand Canyon, there in no way you can do it all in 6 hours.

I know that the future holds some serious changes, but my comment above is based on where I like to live - the present.
 

s8film40

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I would like someone to enlighten me about how DHS is a "less than a full day park" at the present time. Assuming you arrive at rope drop and stay for an 8:30 Fantasmic, I find it hard to believe that even with FP+ and shorter than average wait times that you can experience every show (Frozen Sing A Long, Voyage of the LM, Beauty and the Beast, LMA, IJESS, Disney Jr, Live on Stage, Muppet Vission 3D), ride every true ride (TSMM, RNRC, HTT, Great Movie Ride, Star Tours), eat twice (perhaps one TS and one QS restaurant), perhaps spend a little time with the kids in the Honey I Shrunk the Kids area, wander about the Streets of America (and all streets for that matter) and maybe even do a little shopping and have very much time left over. I even left out things like the Jedi Training Academy and viewing the Frozen short movie. If there are attractions you chose not to experience that's your personal preference.

As far as the "half day" park claim - unless you are doing a Clark Griswold at the Grand Canyon, there in no way you can do it all in 6 hours.

I know that the future holds some serious changes, but my comment above is based on where I like to live - the present.
The percentage of people who want to do every single attraction and show in a single park is extremely low.

If I were vacationing and spending the day at DHS I would want to do ToT & RnR primarily, if I got a FP for TSMM I would do it but not waiting in line. I would throw in Star Tours and perhaps Indiana Jones (assuming those aren't closed during this upcoming construction) Then I guess maybe have lunch and then have to decide wether to leave, re-ride stuff or wait for about 4 or 5 hours for Fantasmic. That's not a full day experience.
 

wdwfan4ver

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I would like someone to enlighten me about how DHS is a "less than a full day park" at the present time. Assuming you arrive at rope drop and stay for an 8:30 Fantasmic, I find it hard to believe that even with FP+ and shorter than average wait times that you can experience every show (Frozen Sing A Long, Voyage of the LM, Beauty and the Beast, LMA, IJESS, Disney Jr, Live on Stage, Muppet Vission 3D), ride every true ride (TSMM, RNRC, HTT, Great Movie Ride, Star Tours), eat twice (perhaps one TS and one QS restaurant), perhaps spend a little time with the kids in the Honey I Shrunk the Kids area, wander about the Streets of America (and all streets for that matter) and maybe even do a little shopping and have very much time left over. I even left out things like the Jedi Training Academy and viewing the Frozen short movie. If there are attractions you chose not to experience that's your personal preference.

As far as the "half day" park claim - unless you are doing a Clark Griswold at the Grand Canyon, there in no way you can do it all in 6 hours.

I know that the future holds some serious changes, but my comment above is based on where I like to live - the present.
Most Adults that don't have kids or one in their group like myself don't do Disney Jr or Honey I shrunk the Kids playground for a reason and its not personal preference.

You can not call those 2 attractions personal Preference because Disney Jr. and Honey I shrunk the Kids Playground was never designed for a group that doesn't have any kids it a first place.
 
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Retroman40

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I suppose I could say that the only attractions I want to do in the MK are Splash Mountain, BTMRR and Space Mountain - all of which I can finish by 10:30 if I get there are rope drop without FP+. Does that make the MK a less than half day park? Hardly. I guess it's half a sentence - "DHS is a half day park" - the second half being "because I am not interested in many of the shows and attractions". Thanks for clarifying that.

I do expect that during the upcoming construction that I may have to revise my DHS is a full day park but currently there is plenty to do there to fill a day if you so choose.
 

s8film40

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I suppose I could say that the only attractions I want to do in the MK are Splash Mountain, BTMRR and Space Mountain - all of which I can finish by 10:30 if I get there are rope drop without FP+. Does that make the MK a less than half day park? Hardly. I guess it's half a sentence - "DHS is a half day park" - the second half being "because I am not interested in many of the shows and attractions". Thanks for clarifying that.

I do expect that during the upcoming construction that I may have to revise my DHS is a full day park but currently there is plenty to do there to fill a day if you so choose.
For some people MK is absolutely a half day park, but that's a minority. The key is we have to look the overall majority and what they will get out of the park. The number of people who do every single attraction and show in any given park is extremely low. Once all the other attractions close and even now for a large number of people it's really difficult for most people to spend a full day in this park. I think people without a PH option are going to feel a little cheated, I can't even imagine what it would be like for someone who bought a one day one park ticket and just went to that park.
 

Evolution

Active Member
I would like someone to enlighten me about how DHS is a "less than a full day park" at the present time. Assuming you arrive at rope drop and stay for an 8:30 Fantasmic, I find it hard to believe that even with FP+ and shorter than average wait times that you can experience every show (Frozen Sing A Long, Voyage of the LM, Beauty and the Beast, LMA, IJESS, Disney Jr, Live on Stage, Muppet Vission 3D), ride every true ride (TSMM, RNRC, HTT, Great Movie Ride, Star Tours), eat twice (perhaps one TS and one QS restaurant), perhaps spend a little time with the kids in the Honey I Shrunk the Kids area, wander about the Streets of America (and all streets for that matter) and maybe even do a little shopping and have very much time left over. I even left out things like the Jedi Training Academy and viewing the Frozen short movie. If there are attractions you chose not to experience that's your personal preference.

As far as the "half day" park claim - unless you are doing a Clark Griswold at the Grand Canyon, there in no way you can do it all in 6 hours.

I know that the future holds some serious changes, but my comment above is based on where I like to live - the present.

The fact that there's more shows than rides just prove how it's a half day park imo. Shows should complement the rides, not the other way around.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Really? What about the several hundreds of DHS cast members who would be out of a job until construction is finished?

I'm sure Disney would move them around the resort...

There are only so many places you can move hundreds of people to. There is no way WDW Could find spots for them all

The company doesn't really care if they find other jobs or not as they are all replaceable.
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
The company doesn't really care if they find other jobs or not as they are all replaceable.
That's not entirely true. The company isn't going to layoff people, they don't want the unemployment. All they have to do is stop hiring for a few weeks and offer them all jobs elsewhere.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
That's not entirely true. The company isn't going to layoff people, they don't want the unemployment. All they have to do is stop hiring for a few weeks and offer them all jobs elsewhere.
They most certainly would if they felt that the money was right. If they felt they could make enough money by closing the park completely, then they would not think twice about laying off a few people. ( and yes hundreds would equate to a few in the corporate world)
 

s8film40

Well-Known Member
They most certainly would if they felt that the money was right. If they felt they could make enough money by closing the park completely, then they would not think twice about laying off a few people. ( and yes hundreds would equate to a few in the corporate world)
Yes I agree they would if they had to. But with three other parks, hotels, DTD etc. They could close the whole park and just offer them other jobs. There not going to layoff people just because, that doesn't make good financial sense. It actually would probably be a good thing for casting as they seem to have to advertise pretty hard to get people to apply to try to keep up with the demand of open positions.
 

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