Did you take a look at the addresses in the permit? Notice anything interesting? Perhaps how many of them increment compared to the existing cabins?
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Wilderness Lodge/Ft Wilderness Permit
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Did you take a look at the addresses in the permit? Notice anything interesting? Perhaps how many of them increment compared to the existing cabins?
Phicinfan
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I am personally of the belief this is the start to link resorts on this side of the bay, similar to how Poly and GF are linked together.
So Cabins or new tower building but it will IMO, include a new "path" or walkway OR transportation loop to Fort Wilderness and eventually Reflections as well. Just gut feeling, but I do think this is a start to link all that.
My gut says - Reflections will be the Fort Wilderness "tower" DVC - taking cost down for cabins that are DVC and then they will link the three together in some form of mode.
again, not inside information here, just reading the tea leaves as I see them
So Cabins or new tower building but it will IMO, include a new "path" or walkway OR transportation loop to Fort Wilderness and eventually Reflections as well. Just gut feeling, but I do think this is a start to link all that.
My gut says - Reflections will be the Fort Wilderness "tower" DVC - taking cost down for cabins that are DVC and then they will link the three together in some form of mode.
again, not inside information here, just reading the tea leaves as I see them
BrianLo
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Just that it is one of the resorts with poor occupancy. I think they have moderate issues and then select deluxe issues in particular.
castlecake2.0
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Just kill it already, the rooms are old and tacking the riviera tower on the one end ruined it
DisneyNittany
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NeedMoreMickey
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The rooms are in a multi year refurb that is still going on now. Family member is CM working on the construction
"Welcome to Disney Time Share Adventure World! With prices starting as low as $39,999.95, we have rooms to fit any budget."
IF they end up converting more regular rooms to DVC, then the following is 1000% true - Hotel occupancy is low, so what's Bob's solution? He turns to page 1 in his playbook - Convert regular rooms to DVC. It worked once in the 2010's for a bit, it'll work again now... won't it?
yensid1967
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THIS would look better than the new contemporary cabins!
yensid1967
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This is just my opinion- I think Disney relies on AP holders and DVC to keep the parks afloat! TOO MUCH! Soon the entire property will become a HUGE DVC RESORT! (no other guest allowed, you'll have to stay off property)
Yes, I think the wait times and crowds are low because of the prices! No one from the middle class can afford a Disney vacation! And Disney just sitting back and not doing ANYTHING to counteract the opening of Universal Epic Universe is adding to their slow demise!
Makes me sad, but at the same time...es me off!
Just ranting!
Yes, I think the wait times and crowds are low because of the prices! No one from the middle class can afford a Disney vacation! And Disney just sitting back and not doing ANYTHING to counteract the opening of Universal Epic Universe is adding to their slow demise!
Makes me sad, but at the same time...es me off!
Just ranting!
BrianLo
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No need for hysterics. DVC is 12.5% of WDW hotel rooms...
Maybe it can almost reach 20%, but the natural end point is 2042 when they all start expiring and need to be resold again.
JoeCamel
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So Bob will be 91 and ready to exit so his timeshare empire doesn't collapse on his watch?
Maybe he will come to his senses and leave at 89
BrianLo
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JoeCamel
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Like Ron Popeil started the TV grift but QVC/HSN perfected itIt's Eisner's timeshare empire.
We're closing in on 4K DVC rooms.
Assume 3 per room on average.
That's 12K DVCers each day.
That's less than 10% of WDW's daily average attendance.
Assume 3 per room on average.
That's 12K DVCers each day.
That's less than 10% of WDW's daily average attendance.
I can‘t find a link to the 7/31/24 permit - but are the addresses the same as the ones filed by Balfour Beatty on 8/27/2019 -
https://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/downloads/20190531352.pdf?parent=DOC2705S41826 which also ranged from 570 - 728 W. Wilderness Way & were thought to be linked to Reflections?
Or, hear me out, they’re overwater cabins— finally turning “cabungalows” from insult to reality!
In all seriousness, I think huge cabins (on land) that have a deck extending out over the lake with a plunge pool would be pretty popular. Especially if there was a golf cart path connecting them to wilderness lodge and the fort.
deeevo
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There used to be a path although not lite but a path. I used to run from WL to FW on it in the mornings. It was so cool because it was out in the woods with nothing around. The Reflections trashed it.
Good find! You are correct, the addresses to match up, although the current permit has a few more addresses in the 600 range. I think this is pretty strong evidence the Reflections is coming back in some form.
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Basil of Baker Street
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I believe the path is coming back.