wide angle lens question

Goofy6294

Active Member
I second the recommendation of getting a copy of Understanding Exposure. I'm a newbie as well, and this book had me shooting decent shots in manual mode after the first few chapters. I'm also fortunate in that I can listen to podcasts in my office during the workday. You should check out ISO5571. It's a Disney/photography podcast, and I may not always understand everything the guys are discussing, but I'm slowly learning to "speak the language" just from the repetition of listening to their conversations.
 

disneygirl76

Carey Poppins - Nanny and Disney Enthusiest
Original Poster
Unless my mind isn't working right now (which sometimes happens) the last part is backwards. If an image is properly exposed at an aperture of f/8 with a shutter speed of 1/500 sec and an ISO of 200; if you open the aperture to f/2.8 you're going to let in more light which will overexpose the image if the other settings don't change. Slowing down the shutter will make it even brighter as will raising the ISO. You'd want to increase the shutter speed and/or lower the ISO to keep the image properly exposed at f/2.8.


To the OP, you should check out a book called "Understanding Exposure" by Brian Petersen, it's the standard go-to book for newbies. There are sites on the internet like Digital Photography School & Cambridge in Color that have free tutorials to explain the information, but I don't think they're as detailed as the actual book is.

Like CP_alum said, exposure is just three things, but they all have a dual purpose in how they affect your photographs. Once you learn these things, it'll be easier for you to understand where your current gear is failing you.



You should also understand some of the markings on the lenses, so you know what you're looking at and looking for when you need a new lens.

You mentioned having the 18-55 and 75-300 Canon lenses. I'm going to guess these are the lenses you have?

EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II
and
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III


going left to right

EF-S/EF - this refers to the mount, not an issue for you having a crop sensor camera, but if a day comes where you find yourself looking to buy a camera body that costs $2500+ then you'll need to be concerned with this. EF-S lenses are made specifically for the crop sensor cameras and won't fit the full frame cameras. EF lenses are made for the full frame cameras and will also fit on the crop sensor bodies. Being the owner of a crop sensor camera, you can use any of the Canon EOS mount lenses. Third party lens manufacturers will have their own designation for the mount type.

18-55mm/75-300mm - this is easy, the focal length. Some lenses just have one number, those are prime lenses and they don't zoom, they are a fixed focal length. You mention the standard lens not zooming enough, an 18-200 lens will give you the same field of view at the wide end (18mm) and let you zoom to 200 on the telephoto end.

f/3.5-5.6//f/4-5.6 - this is the maximum aperture of the lens. These are both variable aperture lenses, which means that at the wide end, the aperture opens up more (the 3.5 number on your 18-55) at the wide end of the lens and gets smaller at the telephoto end (the 5.6 number on your 18-55). Some lenses have just one number here, these are fixed aperture and for zoom lenses that means they can stay at that maximum aperture throughout the entire zoom range. Prime lenses are always a fixed aperture. On Canon lenses, you might see a letter "L" directly following the aperture, this denotes their "L" line of lenses which is their pro line. These are their top of the line lenses and they cost it.

IS - this is image stabilization, every lens maker has their own term for this.

II/III - this is the version of that lens, in this case the 18-55 is the second version, and the 75-300 is the third.

You might also come across the letters "USM", this is Canon's UltraSonic Motor for auto-focus, it's faster and quieter. Again, third party lens makers are going to call this something different.


I know it's a lot of information, but once you have an idea of the various exposure parameters and you start looking to buy some lenses, you'll be able to read a lens name with no problem. I myself am very much an amateur and for me looking at lenses and seeing the way they're named was like looking into the Matrix for me, but once I learned how to decipher the code it made making lens decisions click for me.

Thank you so much! Yes, those are the lens I have. I don't believe they are USM. You mentioned 3rd party lens - can i use another brand lens on my camera? I thought if i got canon, i needed to stay with canon.
 

ddbowdoin

Well-Known Member
Thank you so much! Yes, those are the lens I have. I don't believe they are USM. You mentioned 3rd party lens - can i use another brand lens on my camera? I thought if i got canon, i needed to stay with canon.

yes you can... Tamron, Sigma, Tokina all make Canon mount versions.

You can also use some Zeiss lenses but they're pretty expensive, so I wouldn't even bother looking into those.
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
disneygirl76, I'm just like you. I just got my very first DSLR as well for my birthday on May 16th and I'm totally still trying to learn what it all means. LOL This helped me understand some basics: http://digital-photography-school.com/digital-photography-tips-for-beginners

So far, I've just gone with the tried-and-true method of taking a lot of pictures. Seriously, the more pics you take, the more you play with settings (both semi-automatic and manual) the more you can see what your camera does and how it does it.

The first weekend I had my camera, we went to Disney and I played around with settings.

fountain-1b.jpg


versus

fountain-1a.jpg


Right? Totally different look just from changing the shutter speed.

Anyway, I'm just posting to lend support as a fellow total newbie (and fellow Canon Rebel owner!) Right now, I only have my 18-55 kit lens but I want to pick up a nifty-fifty since I hear it's got great sharpness. Plus, it's a 1.8 f/stop which is cool. Eventually, I also want to get one like your second that goes to 200 or so as well but I'm quickly discovering that going DSLR means not only relearning how to take photos, but also how easy it is to spend money! LOL
 

ddbowdoin

Well-Known Member
disneygirl76, I'm just like you. I just got my very first DSLR as well for my birthday on May 16th and I'm totally still trying to learn what it all means. LOL This helped me understand some basics: http://digital-photography-school.com/digital-photography-tips-for-beginners

So far, I've just gone with the tried-and-true method of taking a lot of pictures. Seriously, the more pics you take, the more you play with settings (both semi-automatic and manual) the more you can see what your camera does and how it does it.

The first weekend I had my camera, we went to Disney and I played around with settings.

versus

fountain-1a.jpg


Right? Totally different look just from changing the shutter speed.

Anyway, I'm just posting to lend support as a fellow total newbie (and fellow Canon Rebel owner!) Right now, I only have my 18-55 kit lens but I want to pick up a nifty-fifty since I hear it's got great sharpness. Plus, it's a 1.8 f/stop which is cool. Eventually, I also want to get one like your second that goes to 200 or so as well but I'm quickly discovering that going DSLR means not only relearning how to take photos, but also how easy it is to spend money! LOL

Research and purchase an NDF (neutral density filter). Essentially what this is a dark filter (can be purchased at different grades) that essentially acts like a pair of sunglasses for your sensor, this way you can slow down your shutter speed and achieve the water effect here without overexposing your image.

http://500px.com/photo/3551761 for an example of such an image.
3551761

3551761
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
Research and purchase an NDF (neutral density filter). Essentially what this is a dark filter (can be purchased at different grades) that essentially acts like a pair of sunglasses for your sensor, this way you can slow down your shutter speed and achieve the water effect here without overexposing your image.

http://500px.com/photo/3551761 for an example of such an image.
Yeah this was like the 2nd day I had the camera. I've gotten some filters since then. It was more a quickie shot to show "Ooh wow, look what I can do!" :D

Nice shot by the way!
 

ddbowdoin

Well-Known Member
Yeah this was like the 2nd day I had the camera. I've gotten some filters since then. It was more a quickie shot to show "Ooh wow, look what I can do!" :D

Nice shot by the way!

in the world of digital I think the only useful filter is the NDF... the rest can be 100% produced inside post production programs.

Not my image, wish it was ... 500px is a great site for serious work
 

rreading

Well-Known Member
Canon makes a 50mm 1.8 which is cheap; Sigma also makes a 30mm 1.4 which goes for about $500 on Amazon and gives you a little more space in the photo and is a little faster. It is not a full frame lens, but should work well on your Rebel (I did have to send it with my camera to Sigma for them to calibrate the focus but came back tack sharp - apparently that's common for their lens)
 

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