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"Why Walt Disney World's Tower Of Terror Could Be In Trouble Because Of The New Twilight Zone"

World_Showcase_Lover007

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The Twilight Zone brand could easily be dropped from the attraction...and you would still have a legit story.

It’s the basis of the Tower of Terror movie from 1997 with Steve Guttenberg. The story is simply that it’s an abandoned old hotel where people disappeared and now may be ghosts. It adds more “Hollywood” and 1930s appeal while leaving out the TV show reference.

I’ve thought the Twilight Zone aspect has been outdated for a long time and should be dropped no matter what. It puts an unnecessary layer on it.
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
The new Twilight Zone won't be that popular, because CBS is sealing its fate by putting it only on their CBS All Access subscription service
Well, if DISCO made the subscription rate jump from 1 million to 4 million (that's #15 million more a month for the basic service), 'd imagine a few more will sign on for this. Plus with The Stand coming, thats even more. Plus when a show is on a network, even if they are the producing studio, they actually have to pay affiliates to air the program as well as give X amount of free ad time. On AA, those costs don't exist. If its an outside studio, the network has to pay to acquire the show as well as pay out to the affiliates. And then they dont even get syndication rights. DISCO season one is already out on disc (and you can bet TZ will be too) and eventually a <censored> version will be available for syndication (Syndie is where the money is made - the affiliates pay you for the show)
 

Rodj

Well-Known Member
How come we are just going to dismiss the Paris ToT? I would think that if anything bad were to happen, the Paris ToT should go first, which maybe can lower down the cost for licensing the TZ.
 

JIMINYCR

Well-Known Member
The new Twilight Zone won't be that popular, because CBS is sealing its fate by putting it only on their CBS All Access subscription service
Nobodys got the presence of Rod Serling. I also think that back in the 60's the stories were so unique and viewers were more "innocent" to be thrilled by the shock of the plots that helped sell the series week after week.
I dont see the series putting ToT in danger. Its the Disney big wigs that think they know better than the guests who will take it away from us and substitute something less.
 

Frank the Tank

Well-Known Member
Very true. Overlays on existing rides is the most likely way rides like ToT will change but those changes will be dictated by an overriding theme in the park. I only hope it isn't some stupid Marvel theme like DL used. Then again I could see them somehow transforming Sunset Blvd into some city from a Marvel cartoon, though I really hope that doesn't happen.

Look - I know that there’s an allergic reaction for some people to Marvel incorporation into the parks. I was a heavy skeptic of the re-theming of the Tower of Terror at DL. However, after actually riding Mission Breakout, I have to say that the ride itself is excellent and was far from a cheap overlay. I truly didn’t think that you could get a better theme for that type of ride system than the Twilight Zone, but at least for me (and I’m a longtime WDW visitor from the 1980s), I actually thought Mission Breakout was more fun. It’s sort of the difference between “haunted house scary fun” (which is the vibe that ToT is trying to get) and “straight up thrilling party fun” (which is Mission Breakout). Both types are fun in their own ways, but I’m personally more of a fan of the latter. My guess is that the latter type of ride appeals to a wider audience (regardless of the IP being used) and it’s just one of those rides where everyone is smiling a ton afterwards. (Admittedly, I also rode the Mission Breakout setting that uses “I Want You Back” by the Jackson Five, which is one of my favorite songs, so that probably contributed a lot to my enjoyment of the ride.)

Now, the exterior facade is a different story. The changes with Mission Breakout are definitely more garish. I definitely prefer the classic Hollywood Tower look of ToT (and don’t think it needed to be changed at DL).
 

Sharon&Susan

Well-Known Member
It's going to be replaced with Pixar: Celebration of Hollywood Hotels from the 1930's Extravaganza! The budget will be exactly ten dollars and fifty-four cents with the Buzz Lightyear toy in the Pixar Studio Store costing twenty seven dollars and ninety-nine cents.
 

FettFan

Well-Known Member

This week, we got a new look at Jordan Peele's take on the classic TV series The Twilight Zone. The only place the Twilight Zone name has been regularly seen over the last several years has been at Disney theme parks attached to the popular Tower of Terror attraction, like the first one built at Walt Disney World for Disney's Hollywood Studios. One might think that renewed interest in the TV series would be nothing but good news for the nearly 25-year-old attraction, but the truth is it could actually spell the end of the ride by making The Twilight Zone too popular and too expensive for Disney.

The first version of the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror opened at Disney's Hollywood Studios in 1994. Three other Tower of Terror attractions were built at Disney parks in California, Paris and Tokyo, and two of those used the Twilight Zone brand.

The thrill ride itself is fairly simple: it's a drop ride that pushes a car full of guests into the air, before dropping them in free fall (it actually pulls the car down, so you fall faster than you actually would if only gravity was acting on the ride vehicle). Then the car slows, goes back up, and does it again, causing several thrilling drops per ride.

While simple, the ride certainly built its share of fans. The popularity of the attraction was made clear when it was announced that the version of the attraction at Disney's California Adventure would be replaced by Guardians of the Galaxy - Mission: Breakout. While the attraction's thrill would remain essentially the same, everything would be re-themed to match the popular Marvel Cinematic Universe heroes. As popular as Marvel is, many were unhappy to see the Tower of Terror go.

This led various people to wonder what the future of the other Towers was, especially the original one at Walt Disney World. While nothing has ever been officially announced by Disney to imply the attractions are going anywhere, the impending brand-new Twilight Zone series could actually spell the end of the existing attraction.

The buzz surrounding this latest iteration of The Twilight Zone is strong. Jordan Peele is acting as producer and host of the show, and that association alone has people excited. What was Get Out, if not the best feature length episode of the Twilight Zone ever conceived? The Twilight Zone name is poised to be bigger than it's been in decades, and that has to be good news for a theme park attraction that holds the name, right?

But that's exactly the problem. The Twilight Zone is owned by CBS and Disney pays the company a licensing fee for use of the name and the elements of the classic series. Now, I don't pretend to know how much Disney is currently paying to license the name, but it stands to reason that if the brand new series is a hit, the next time the deal comes up for renewal, the price tag to Disney could be a lot higher than it has been in the past. It could be so much higher that Disney isn't interested in paying for it.

Disney has all the money in the world, especially these days, but that doesn't mean it's always interested in spending it. Next door to the Tower of Terror at Walt Disney World is the Rock N' Roller Coaster, featuring Aerosmith. Originally, Disney wanted it to feature the Rolling Stones, but the group wanted too much money to license its music.

The only reason I can conceive that the Twilight Zone licensing deal won't get a lot more expensive is if the new show somehow doesn't succeed. If the show bombs, then CBS won't be in a great bargaining position. However, that causes its own problem, as a bad show would damage the brand as a whole and potentially make Disney less interested in continuing with it.

I don't think the show will fail. I think it looks amazing.

Of course, if the new show is a massive new hit, there could be problems in the other direction. If the show becomes really successful there could be a call to see elements of it incorporated into the attraction. While Walt Disney World purists as well as classic Twilight Zone fans would probably lose their minds at the idea of Rod Serling being replaced by Jordan Peele, the average tourist may not care so much.

Of course, this would increase the cost of Disney that much more, as the park would need to not only pay for the new licensing deal, but also pay to re-skin the attraction.

Even if I'm right, it doesn't mean the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror will be gone tomorrow. Details on exactly what the licensing deal between CBS and Disney looks like are hard to come by; these sorts of deals usually aren't made public. It's barely possible that the deal between the two has no expiration date or set plan for renewal. Maybe Disney was able to get CBS to agree to a fixed renewal price for as long as Disney wants to continue with the attraction. It's unlikely CBS would have agreed to that.

What's more likely is that every few years CBS and Disney meet to renegotiate the deal. If the last renewal took place a couple of years ago, then the Tower of Terror might be safe for quite some time. If the deal is coming up for reconsideration soon, however, things could be changing a lot faster.

Of course, the loss of the Twilight Zone name doesn't mean that the Tower of Terror is doomed. If a re-theming is required, the general concept can be kept while simply removing the Twilight Zone related elements. The version of the attraction at Tokyo DisneySea has existed for over a decade with no ties to the Twilight Zone at all. Still, those elements are part of what give the Walt Disney World attraction its unique mood and feel. Losing them would still be a major blow.

Walt Disney World's Tower of Terror likely won't be transformed into Guardians of the Galaxy - Mission: Breakout, if only because a Guardians of the Galaxy themed roller coaster is currently under construction at Epcot. But as popular as the Tower is, it seems that the deck is stacking against the attraction's future.

I'd like to remind you that this is not the first time the Twilight Zone has been rebooted.

There was the 1980s reboot that met with some success, lasting 3 seasons, cashing in on Spielberg's Twilight Zone: The Movie.



And then there was the failed 2002 reboot with Forest Whitaker.



It didn't last, and I don't suspect this one will either.
 

FettFan

Well-Known Member
Doesn't anyone recall the Tv movie based on the ride.....?
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It didn't have any reference to The Twilght Zone in this..They could easily keep the same story with out Rod Serling like this movie did...

That movie was lame as hell, and is rightly forgotten.

No, if you were to remove "Twilight Zone" altogether, we already have a perfect example at Tokyo DisneySEA.

Especially because the storyline of DisneySEA's Tower of Terror ties in to other Disney attractions, from Jungle Cruise to the late, great Adventurer's Club.
 

FormerEPCOTcm1990

New Member
When I was working at Disney one of my close friends was an Imagineer, who heard from one of his higher ups that they were going to basically gut DHS and make it into star wars, toy story and Monstropolis. This was before the plans were announced to the public and so far 2/3 of those came true. Also with the Guardians ride going in EPCOT it sounds more like a reality. Here's hoping he's correct
 
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raymusiccity

Well-Known Member
I'm sorry for posting this, because I believe the article is a bunch of baloney based on pure speculation.

Though I must admit, I am mildly curious about what impact, if any, CBS's new Twilight Zone series will have on WDWs tower.

It's totally bogus that 'Twilight Zone' is only seen at TOT in Disney World. The original TV series is aired regularly across several platforms. As a matter of fact, several can be seen later today on SyFy !
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Scrooged

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Submitted for your approval, I’ve made the observation that This thread has split into two categories.

1. Should ToT be “updated” to fit the new “Twilight Zone TV show.

2. The merits of the old TZ vs. Peele TZ.

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1. It has become quite apparent that Disney is not afraid to update, “plus”, demolish or re-theme any of its attractions. So eventually ToT will be at the very least re-themed. Perhaps it will be completely replaced with something else. But I doubt that will happen until the success of the new TZ is determined. As it stands now, ToT is a fan favorite that holds a nostalgic power over a lot of guests. I think Disney would be wise to leave it be for now.

2. Old TZ defined what thoughtful television should be. That show coupled with Star Trek broadened the horizons of how storytelling could be done in a short-form format and still hold a societal and emotional message. I suspect the new TZ may do the same thing by tackling some of the current social issues that we encounter daily. So- I’m short it remains to be seen what Peele TZ will do as compared to RS’s Twilight Zone.

One thing is for sure. When you walk through the outdated and dilapidated doors of the Hollywood Tower Hotel- you’re stepping into a time capsule that contains the thoughts sounds and memories of each individual and their own encounters with a certain television show that not only left them thinking about their own society and how they fit into it... but also left them in

THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

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Walt Disney1955

Well-Known Member
By the way, just in case people don't "get" the aspect of Tower of Terror, the entire point is that it IS outdated. That is the charm of it. A long lost family from the 1930s in black and white footage gets lost...........that was old in 1994 too. That was the point. This is supposed to be the golden age of Hollywood. Sorry, Jordan Peele doesn't fit this, or Justin Bieber, or Selena Gomez or Cardi B. Let's leave this ride as is. Disneyland screwed up by changing it.
 

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