Why so expensive

Florida_is_hot

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I have air miles.
Thinking about a "Value" resort but these value?? resorts they want $160 a night.
Twice the about I paid in the past.

Think I will pass.
Why so expensive?
 

Florida_is_hot

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It is not really high summer season yet?
Would they not have capacity and be able to keep rates down?
Maybe I should call them and not trust online rates, say I am cheap and want the best rates they have?
 
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bethymouse

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Hopefully one of these days, it'll catch up to Disney. So much so that nobody will be able to afford any deluxe resorts.:(
That's why they're offering a summer discount 30% off!:eek: Summer is busy season anyway, so this is quite surprising!:eek: I guess they only want the rich people and DVC folks @ their deluxe resorts.:( The "average" person just can't afford it unless they save up for years!:(
 
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dreamfinder

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Maybe I should call them and not trust online rates, say I am cheap and want the best rates they have?

Calling CRO will get you the same exact prices as you see online. They will never offer you a rate that you don't specifically ask for.

Demand. If there is high demand for a product, the cost will be higher.
Yep, simple supply and demand. It's kind of amazing when you think about it.

Exactly. Prices keep going up, yet they still seem to have 80%+ occupancy at the resorts. There will be some point where demand starts to drop off, and then they should in economic theory, stop raising prices.

They seem to be getting close to this point, as they still seem to have a need to offer a healthy discount to offset some of the increases. As people around these parts constantly demonstrate with regards to "IF THEY DON'T OFFER FREE DINING I'M NEVER GOING BACK TO WDW" type statements, they are still somewhat conditioning guests to expect a discount. Admittedly between AAA discounts, Visa discounts, FL Res and AP discounts, never mind CM, industry courtesy, military etc, there aren't many people left who should be paying rack rate.

If it's too much, don't go. Simple as that. Speak with your dollars. Go to Uni, go to the beach, heck even stay home, has the same effect on their bottom line.
 
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JTT

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It's supply and demand.

If you go at off times, you can get discounts.

If you go at popular times, it's expensive!

When my son was younger, we would go at off times. Now we can't take him out of school, so we pay $$$.
 
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dreamfinder

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The "average" person just can't afford it unless they save up for years!:(

Which is almost commentary on our culture as a whole. That is how it used to be. And for many people, still is. Never mind staying at a deluxe, there are still plenty of people that get to WDW maybe once in their life. Or that throw the WDW trip on their credit cards right next to their 60" TV and their Escalade, just because they need to go.

Growing up I think we went once every 5-6 years or so at best. Deluxe? No stinking deluxe, camping it was. WDW is still a destination vacation for many people, and sometimes those of us that are more fortunate to go more often forget that.
 
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Zman-ks

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Because people pay for it. If more did like you then prices would drop.
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agreed.
 
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ParentsOf4

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Ah, my favorite topic, WDW prices.

It’s not supply and demand; it’s “whatever the market will bear.”

Disney’s supply of resort rooms is up yet demand is flat. Consequently, WDW hotel occupancy rates have dropped. If it were supply and demand, prices should drop because supply is up.

In general, WDW prices have exploded since Disney CEO Iger took over in 2005. Iger likes to use the phrase “pricing leverage” to basically describe charging whatever people are able to pay for the same product.

In the case of WDW, U.S. onsite presence has actually declined but this decline has been filled in by an increasing international presence who are taking advantage of a weak U.S. dollar and now make up nearly one-quarter of WDW guests.

It wasn’t that long ago that I paid $66/night (including tax) for a Value Resort room.

For some perspective, adjusted for inflation throughout the 1970s and 1980s, a garden wing room at the Contemporary cost less than a Value Resort room today. Prices have risen significantly faster since then because TWDC has adapted a “whatever the market will bear” approach towards pricing.

There's a reason corporate Disney spends $2B annually in advertising. (Back in the "old" days, Disney's advertising budget was essentially $0.) When it comes to WDW, it's to create the impression families "have" to vacation at WDW as a rite of passage; it's to generate demand for a product that essentially hasn't changed in 15 years.
 
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Disneyhead'71

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Resort prices are insane. I called yesterday for July of 2014 for the 3 monorail resorts for 11 nights. Was quoted $5,500, $6,200 and $6,500. Close to $600 per night.
If you are looking for a luxury vacation in Orlando without paying $600/Night I suggest either of the hotels at The Grande Lakes Resort. Far, far, FAR superior accommodations. And they have complimentary shuttles to WDW, UOR, and SW.

http://www.grandelakes.com

Also The Loews Resorts up at Universal are a far better product than WDW is offering at nearly 1/3 the price. I stayed at Portofino Bay 2 weeks ago for $174/Night with AP discount. And it blows The Grand Floridian out of the water on class and amenities.
 
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Jessica Meier

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If you aren't willing to pay it, then that should be enough of a decision making point to go elsewhere. I personally love Disney. We stayed at a beach house (2 bedroom, nothing fancy) about two blocks from the beach in Destin, 3 years ago this fall. Splitting the cost of that beach house, food, gas and site seeing we payed as much as we did for our trip the following year to Disney. Our Disney trip was beyond more fun. Life is too short to constantly complain about how the "man" is making a buck and you are getting cheated. Its called free enterprise. It is part of what makes our country great.
 
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Florida_is_hot

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It's supply and demand.

If you go at off times, you can get discounts.

If you go at popular times, it's expensive!

When my son was younger, we would go at off times. Now we can't take him out of school, so we pay $$$.
Is this not off season?
No holidays, school is still on.
 
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