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Why No Single Riders Line at Soarin?
- Thread starter EPCOTPluto
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I am just guessing but due to its theater style seating I do not see a single rider line being all that practical. You might at best load half a dozen guest per cycle.
donsullivan
Premium Member
There actually was one for a very, very short time immediately as the attraction was opening. It closed very early and the sign came down shortly thereafter. The line to the left of the FP line was used for Single Rider in the brief time they had it.
They actually do have Single Rider at DCA edition of Soarin, but it's not something they have a big sign for, if you know its there. They just give you a little ticket and when you go down the ramps for boarding you go in the normally empty line and they slot you in when there is an empty seat just like other attractions.
They actually do have Single Rider at DCA edition of Soarin, but it's not something they have a big sign for, if you know its there. They just give you a little ticket and when you go down the ramps for boarding you go in the normally empty line and they slot you in when there is an empty seat just like other attractions.
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donsullivan
Premium Member
Actually, from what I've been told it was removed because of the long lines. With the standby line for Soarin' regularly at 90 minutes or more, large numbers of people (in groups) were going into the single rider line like they do at Test track. On Test Track it make sense and that line can move along pretty quickly because of the nature of the load pattern.
On Soarin, with the small number of load cycles per hour, and the number of seats available, there were a very small number of single riders moving through per hour which was making the wait time absolutely insane. It was regularly longer than the standby line and Disney was starting to get a lot of complaints.
Given the pattern of this attraction, Single rider just didn't make sense as an option so they stopped it very early.
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Because the single rider line is supposed to be faster that the standby line. In the case of Soarin it is not.
Phonedave
Well-Known Member
Because Soarin loads so slowly and there a so many "rows" the CM's can do a better job of filling all available seats with full parties
There are six seats per TT car, and how many cars load at once - 4 I think.
So lets say you have a couple of parties of 3 and some of 2 in the line. You can call around and try and load out the 3's and 2's into the cars, but remember, you have a time limit, and you have two rows per car. It's much faster to load a 2 and a 3 and then call in a single.
On Soarin on the other hand, the CM's have 6 rows per carrage, and 3 carrages to work with. They also have a longer time to load. They can load row one untill it "spills over" and remember they have 3 empty seats at the end, and the next part of 3 that comes up gets put there. When they fill that last row on a carrage they have time to check down the queue to fill it to capacity. A single rider would be selected out of need much less often.
-dave
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Rob562
Well-Known Member
Dave has it explained pretty well. A competant, efficient grouper would have no need to use a Singles line. At the MOST, each theater would use 9 singles every 5 minutes or so. (And most of the time it'd be less than that) That would be a VERY slow-moving Singles line...
-Rob
-Rob
gjohnson66
Member
I have to echo earlier points -- the single rider line at Soarin' DCA works just fine. I use it all the time and have had no complaints at all.
Could it be that Soarin' EPCOT has higher levels of crowds trying to ride it than DCA? I was trying to remember, but I can't think of a time where DCA's Soarin' line was longer than 60 min. or so.
slappy magoo
Well-Known Member
Soarin' lines at WDW are almost always longer than 60 minutes.
I'm also guessing, because lines at Epcot are SO long, once people are close to getting in, they're more willing to split up. You've been waiting 90 minutes or more in a party of 3, the CM says, "we can fit 2 in one row, one in another row, would you mind splitting up, or you could wait for the next show" I think most people will take Option A.
WDWRLD
Active Member
Saw this a few weeks ago just about every time we rode...
Rob562
Well-Known Member
I don't want to get into a debate about FastPass, but I have to disagree with getting rid of Singles Lines.
On attractions where the Singles Line works, it fills in seats that would otherwise be empty. How is running an attraction with empty seats more efficient? :shrug:
If EE didn't have a Singles Line, they would have an empty seat or two on every train because if you have an odd party size, you're left with an empty seat. If the next party happens to be an odd number as well, you can use one of them to fill that seat. But you can't always count on that. 50% of the time, that next party will be even, leaving you an empty seat.
In fact, the Singles Line probably makes the Standby line *shorter*. Every time that a group enters the Singles Line willing to be split up on the ride, all of those people *aren't* in the Standby line making your wait longer because they want to sit together... Singles standing in the Standby line don't really have much of an effect, because they'll be filling single seats when they get to the front of the line whether they're in Single Rider, Standby or FastPass.
-Rob
dxwwf3
Well-Known Member
The SRL works extremely well on Test Track, RNRC, Expedition Everest and it did work very well on Mission Space before Green Team came in.
And while others have experienced problems with it, I also loved the SRL at Midway Mania. And that is the type of attraction that thrives on repeat ridings. Whenever I used the SRL, I never waited more than 15 minutes and I used it at least 10-15 times over two visits in the summer season. I really wish they would get rid of FP and bring back the SRL for that attraction.
And while others have experienced problems with it, I also loved the SRL at Midway Mania. And that is the type of attraction that thrives on repeat ridings. Whenever I used the SRL, I never waited more than 15 minutes and I used it at least 10-15 times over two visits in the summer season. I really wish they would get rid of FP and bring back the SRL for that attraction.
Figment632
New Member
I will not ride Soarin unless it is as soon as the park opens or unless I have a FP. FP slows the regular line more than any other attraction besides Buzz SRS, single rider line would just make this worse.