Why I'm sick of Disney-Central

[goldenstate5]

NOTE: This is NOT an attack on what I get on Disney-Central, which to say is most of the time, utterly fantastic, especially Martin's (AKA marni) videos. This is moreso on how I get it.

You won't believe the many times I've heard "DCC file transfer failed" in my life. Probably, I'm guessing about a hundred and fifty. Yes, that's a realistic number and I've only been using mIRC and Disney-Central since December.

I know how to use it, please don't send me to the above sticky thread.

But, mostly, why are you guys relying on a user-friendly file sharing program to let others download Disney videos (especially high quality, in-depth, multi-angles ones, like what Martin produces) that take literally days to download because of it.

My computer is about 10 months old, and has an extremely high bandwith...then why am I downloaded things at 10 kbs constantly even when I have absolutely no programs running?! And when they fail (they do this by lowering the kbs so low that it can't download anymore)...I'm "requeued" (which I do NOT like either, but that's later in the post)...great.

I want my videos downloaded fast, easy, and efficent. That seems to be what you guys promise in the above sticky thread. A place to download all kinds of Disney videos, albulms and other stuff (mostly theme park related) in an easy setting that fast to handle, and you'll get your favorite ride on video in just a matter of minutes. And sometimes, yes, that's what I get. Heck, my computer has lost FOUR gigabytes to downloaded material from Disney-Central. And I love every megabyte of it. But, it's so inconsistent on service that it borders on annoying.

I mean, I don't like file-sharing programs at all, actually. It creeps me out when someone is trying to unwittingly, download off of me, but it creeps me out equally when doing it to someone else, as well. Whenever on a server, I feel like I'm being watched by an unseen force. When I get frustrated, and keep going back to download stuff over again, they seem to ban me for a while for no reason. And I'm constantly having to wait about seventeen hours for a five hour download for a ride video!

And when the seventeen hours is up, my download seems to sometimes disappear into existance, and I have to download...AGAIN!!! I swear, I've had mIRC up for the last straight four days trying to download TWO videos. One 234 mb (Martin's "MuppetVision" video) and right now, for the fourteenth time, Martin's second Body Wars video, 134 mb. If I were on a website, this would've taken me about an hour, maybe an hour and a half, not FOUR DAYS.

"Incoming DCC file transfer"...two seconds later..."DCC file transfer failed"...

(this just happened as I was typing)

Anyways, back onto my rant, I'm sick of this. Personally, I am. I went on Martin's list of videos and saw at least a dozen of videos I would love to download, although amazingly huge, I could spare the space, no less. But, I don't care, I do not, do not, DO NOT want to. I just don't want to touch Disney-Central. A dozen videos? Sounds like a long month or two to me. No thank you.

I think you guys need to stop becoming such flag-wavers for mIRC, though I can't blame the majority who are the hosts to the servers, who all basically easily download stuff off of a simple Distro, no big whoop, and never have to go through this hassle, so I'd appreciate if these people did not make a comment, but rather the users of it who just come to watch videos.

What happened to the "Ride Videos" thread, where good vids were posted without any of this.

Maybe a website, ala Digital Disney? I don't care about bandwith, I'd pay the price, better than dealing with mIRC, I'm telling you...

(end of rant)

SECOND NOTE: I'm sorry if I offended anyone who has a personal connection with the creation of Disney-Central, but my purpose of the rant was to show how the mIRC base of it makes the entire experience very frustrating...

 

[dolbyman]

first of all I'm not offended

now some comments:

I want my videos downloaded fast, easy, and efficent. That seems to be what you guys promise in the above sticky thread. A place to download all kinds of Disney videos, albulms and other stuff (mostly theme park related) in an easy setting that fast to handle, and you'll get your favorite ride on video in just a matter of minutes. And sometimes, yes, that's what I get.

well I never promised that I offer blazing fast downloads .. because I can't .. my private internet line is used for the server and that is no backboneburner (although I doubled my bandwidth already this year and I will again next month resulting in a permanent speed of maximum 70kb/s ... and this costs me a fortune)

sure we could host the video on a dedicated apache webserver .. but that would cost a nice fortune .. alltogether (D-C network)we had a transfer of 1,5 terrabyte this month and a storage is used of well over 300gigabyte.. now think how this would raise if it would be simple click and download :dazzle: ... so the private line is all I can give (and afford)

Heck, my computer has lost FOUR gigabytes to downloaded material from Disney-Central. And I love every megabyte of it. But, it's so inconsistent on service that it borders on annoying.

why did your computer loose data :veryconfu ..what do you mean by that ?

I mean, I don't like file-sharing programs at all, actually. It creeps me out when someone is trying to unwittingly, download off of me, but it creeps me out equally when doing it to someone else, as well. Whenever on a server, I feel like I'm being watched by an unseen force.

irc is more of a file distribution program, than file sharing .. cause you are only downloading .. not uploading .. ... and yes sometimes you are watched....but only the file request window .. I can't see you PC or any of it's contents.. I keep track of my upload either failed or succesfull ones to and most of the time when uploads fail .. users have wrong settings on thier router resulting in sudden loss of transfers.
(btw all 24h's I'm the one to blame, cause my ISP disconnects me to dedicate a new IP to my line.)

When I get frustrated, and keep going back to download stuff over again, they seem to ban me for a while for no reason. And I'm constantly having to wait about seventeen hours for a five hour download for a ride video!

ban's are only set to people who trigger the servers more often than within a 30sec time range .. and only when they don't react on warnings (we can get frustrated too)

And when the seventeen hours is up, my download seems to sometimes disappear into existance, and I have to download...AGAIN!!!

this shouldn't happen all invision servers support resuming .. so your download should continue when you restart downloading

I think you guys need to stop becoming such flag-wavers for mIRC, though I can't blame the majority who are the hosts to the servers, who all basically easily download stuff off of a simple Distro, no big whoop, and never have to go through this hassle, so I'd appreciate if these people did not make a comment, but rather the users of it who just come to watch videos.

We wave the flag cause it's free (you don't pay a dime for D-C), large (tell us another place with over 300 gigabyte of disney park media...I know there is none) and a great community (you can request or find stuff you never dreamed about to see again.. like extinct attractions or special occasions)


but to sum up .. for this reason (we had many complaints about speed and stuff) we made a torrent site www.wdwresorttv.com/tracker there you have to share yourself(it's a small "price"r many are willing to give) but you can reach speeds that max out your line and your downloads won't fail and redownload.. you only need a bittorrent client.

I hope we (the D-C crew) and you can solve the problems and keep you as a member of Disney-Central :wave:

 

[marni1971]

Sorry to hear about the problems you are having. If it`s any consolation I can try 3 or 4 times to upload my videos in the first place; at a ratio of sometimes 10:1 I`m looking at 24 hours dedicated to a single large file uploading. This isn`t a dig at any of the software in use, more a problem at my end (since my system crashed in march I`ve had all sorts of network problems with my broadband connection. Until I can afford to pay for someone to come in and basically set everything up from scratch I`m learning to live with it. Just!) Same with BT - after an hour, my dl`s can slow to a trickle measured in bytes per second. Rebooting solves it for another hour or so. I have to queue with everyone else for anything that isn`t new (on Distro) and watching the countdown tick away sometimes ends up in an overnight session for a single file, once again a small price to pay for a free service. Again, this isn`t a soloution for you, but you`re not alone in getting frustrated.

I`m touched by your comments about my videos, thank you Some of them are available here at WDWMagic, and as my site says a few others too. However, most charge a flat access rate - which is fully understandable since bandwidth isn`t free. Believe me, if I hd the money (or won the lottery) I`d want nothing more than to have on PC dedicated to serving all my (and fellow editors) vids for free 24/7. Short of charging for a mail order service (which is something I won`t do - again, reasons on my site) downloads are the best way of getting my vids out for people to remember the classic rides of yesterday and today. And we come full circle to the fact downloads cost money to right click to save, and for a majority to agree with this. Again, this isn`t a soloution for you, more of moral support to say it`s a big friendly community - stick with it and I`m sure the tech guys will try to help.

BTW - mods - this about D-C IRC home videos, not file sharing networks with copyrighted material. Cheers.

 

[barnum42]

It's far from perfect true - but it's free. If you want it fast go to ebay and purchase the home videos that some people sell there.

 

[Wackyboxer]

Personally, I have very little trouble downloading from DC. My computer is an Emachine, so it's not a top of the line model, and I have Comcast broadband. While it's true that occasionally I will have a download speed in the single digits, I would have to say that my average download speed is probably around 30 to 40 kbs and it has reached as high as almost 200kbs on one of the servers.

DC is a marvelous outlet with what seems like an almost endless array of Disney goodies. In today's selfish world, it's really kind of astonishing that all the great people that serve the files on here do it for free and I am VERY appreciative for that. My most heartfelt thanks go out to each and every server on DC!

Everybody wants stuff done on their time schedule, but instead of getting so upset because things don't go as fast as you'd like, perhaps you would be better served to remember that enjoying the fruits of the DC servers labors are indeed a privilege and not a right.

Please don't be mad at me, I'm not trying to be harsh, I just think that people should be thankful for the gift of DC rather than looking the gift horse in the mouth because the gift doesn't please them as fast as they'd like.

Have a Great Day and I hope you'll keep visiting DC!

 

[ogryn]

I used to get a lot of DCC transfer failures, but the same was happening with my web connection (I used to get Timeout/Connection Lost pages), so I assume it was more down to my Cable Broadband signal levels dropping out, or my router.

I've since upgraded my Router firmware, and upgraded my cable connection from 512Kb to 2Mb, and haven't had any trouble since.

 

[goldenstate5]

but to sum up .. for this reason (we had many complaints about speed and stuff) we made a torrent site www.wdwresorttv.com/tracker there you have to share yourself(it's a small "price"r many are willing to give) but you can reach speeds that max out your line and your downloads won't fail and redownload.. you only need a bittorrent client.

I hope we (the D-C crew) and you can solve the problems and keep you as a member of Disney-Central :wave:

:sohappy: Ah...that's what I'm talking about! Thank you! Well, being it was late at night, the second I let the post down, Body Wars finished downloaded about 30 minutes ahead of schedule (the schedule that I saw before I started typing)...and I've downloaded Martin's Fantasyland series in six hours flat!

Intresting result when the last weekend was spent trying to basically download two videos, but it's not like everything is better. Thank you all for understanding that I was just commenting on the use of mIRC. I was extremely scared that I was going to be flamed, saying that I was "insincere" to all the nice people who offer the videos for free...(kind of ironic to say this on a pay plus site)...

So, in closing, I finally got some questions answered that weren't in the above sticky thread (thanks dolby), yet I kind of still feel like file sharing is like entering somebody's house that you don't even know, and taking something of there's. Y'know, it's kinda weird...so maybe I'm just paranoid there.

So, hopefully this is the way D-C will be for me (whew! Triple rhyme!) for a long time...once again, thanks folks...

 

[Chris Lang]

Hi everyone, I thought I'd chime in here to let you know a bit about bandwidth and running a high bandwidth website. I run visionsfantastic.com which probably some of you have visited for Disneyland stuff. VisionsFantastic often goes in excess of 1 Terrabyte of bandwidth a month, and typically are video are much smaller in filesize than what you find on Disney-Central.

VF couldn't even operate without the private donations that people send in. Running such a website for WDW Videos is cost prohibitive, hence WDWMagic and sites like it. The internet is no longer "a free ride" and even file sharing has its costs (spyware, adware, threats of lawsuit, etc). Since the emergence of MP3 and video, the costs to run these websites is huge, and if people want high quality material, they're going to have to pay for them, plain and simple.

When polled, only about 30% of our site visitors at VF said they would pay a flat fee of $2 a month to use VF. Most stated it wasn't worth it. So you see, that doesn't give websites like VF or WDWMagic much of a chance and some, like WDWMagic are literally forced into a subscription system to stay open.

I realize that #Disney-Central is slow and that's mainly due to it's enormous popularity and it's massively huge downloads. I suggest if you want to download things quickly that you look into Newsgroups. (Contact your ISP to see if they support it, and if not, consider getting a Newsgroup service for about $10 a month). Newsgroups are fast and easy and you can get those massive downloads.

We've taken some steps to keep traffic down on VF (registration and extra steps to actually download the video, not stream it online) and the amount of traffic and visitors is still huge. It's a huge audience that wants to download these materials (especially for free) and there's gotta be a reaction somewhere; (slow downloading, sites down for blowing their bandwidth, etc).

I guess what I'm trying to say here is; I don't have a lot of sympathy for people upset when something being offered for free isn't the same quality as something they are paying for.

I also want to applaud the folks at #disney-central for putting together such a great collection of online videos, and people like RU42 and Marni for creating them.

 

[dolbyman]

hey goldenstat .. I just noticed you had hughe trouble downloading that dlrp tribute series.... all failing right after another .. can't see why right now :veryconfu...

I hope you'r e not upset again

 

[goldenstate5]

Nah...cancelled them. Downloading from the torrent site instead, but thanks for asking...

 

[dolbyman]

ok nice ..

just a hint you can clear your queues by typing /clrqueues in the fileserver window :wave:

 

[AndyP]

It's a great service, works fine, I can usually download at 20-30Kbs but depends if someone else is downloading of the same server ofcourse, but most significantly, it is FREE. Stop complaining. These guys are so great for providing this service (I would if I could). It costs them money for it. Even if you download at 1kbs, and you take a month to download, thats still good enough for a service you wouldn't even have without the generousity of the filesharers!!

 

[PBarton]

Hi, Wackyboxer, Dolbyman, Barnum, Marni and AndyP!

Thought I would use my 100th post to say thanks for DC, it IS a great place, with many wonderful and friendly people.

I too have problems from time to time re. "transfer failed" and slow transfers (even as slow as 0.08kbps.. on a 512k broadband connection!) But as stated above, it is a free service and also a great place just to hang out and play Disney Trivia! (broke into the top 100 at last!). Even without the dl's it would still be a great place to visit, as is this discussion site.


Thanks again guys, DC rules :wave:

Paul

 

[icunurseceleste]

Hi I'm new here- but it sounds like this is the right place to look....
I am looking for the file sharing site where I can download songs from Disney cruise line- can someone point me in the right direction and let me know where instuctions are?

I appreciate the help!
Celeste

NOTE: This is NOT an attack on what I get on Disney-Central, which to say is most of the time, utterly fantastic, especially Martin's (AKA marni) videos. This is moreso on how I get it.

You won't believe the many times I've heard "DCC file transfer failed" in my life. Probably, I'm guessing about a hundred and fifty. Yes, that's a realistic number and I've only been using mIRC and Disney-Central since December.

I know how to use it, please don't send me to the above sticky thread.

But, mostly, why are you guys relying on a user-friendly file sharing program to let others download Disney videos (especially high quality, in-depth, multi-angles ones, like what Martin produces) that take literally days to download because of it.

My computer is about 10 months old, and has an extremely high bandwith...then why am I downloaded things at 10 kbs constantly even when I have absolutely no programs running?! And when they fail (they do this by lowering the kbs so low that it can't download anymore)...I'm "requeued" (which I do NOT like either, but that's later in the post)...great.

I want my videos downloaded fast, easy, and efficent. That seems to be what you guys promise in the above sticky thread. A place to download all kinds of Disney videos, albulms and other stuff (mostly theme park related) in an easy setting that fast to handle, and you'll get your favorite ride on video in just a matter of minutes. And sometimes, yes, that's what I get. Heck, my computer has lost FOUR gigabytes to downloaded material from Disney-Central. And I love every megabyte of it. But, it's so inconsistent on service that it borders on annoying.

I mean, I don't like file-sharing programs at all, actually. It creeps me out when someone is trying to unwittingly, download off of me, but it creeps me out equally when doing it to someone else, as well. Whenever on a server, I feel like I'm being watched by an unseen force. When I get frustrated, and keep going back to download stuff over again, they seem to ban me for a while for no reason. And I'm constantly having to wait about seventeen hours for a five hour download for a ride video!

And when the seventeen hours is up, my download seems to sometimes disappear into existance, and I have to download...AGAIN!!! I swear, I've had mIRC up for the last straight four days trying to download TWO videos. One 234 mb (Martin's "MuppetVision" video) and right now, for the fourteenth time, Martin's second Body Wars video, 134 mb. If I were on a website, this would've taken me about an hour, maybe an hour and a half, not FOUR DAYS.

"Incoming DCC file transfer"...two seconds later..."DCC file transfer failed"...

(this just happened as I was typing)

Anyways, back onto my rant, I'm sick of this. Personally, I am. I went on Martin's list of videos and saw at least a dozen of videos I would love to download, although amazingly huge, I could spare the space, no less. But, I don't care, I do not, do not, DO NOT want to. I just don't want to touch Disney-Central. A dozen videos? Sounds like a long month or two to me. No thank you.

I think you guys need to stop becoming such flag-wavers for mIRC, though I can't blame the majority who are the hosts to the servers, who all basically easily download stuff off of a simple Distro, no big whoop, and never have to go through this hassle, so I'd appreciate if these people did not make a comment, but rather the users of it who just come to watch videos.

What happened to the "Ride Videos" thread, where good vids were posted without any of this.

Maybe a website, ala Digital Disney? I don't care about bandwith, I'd pay the price, better than dealing with mIRC, I'm telling you...

(end of rant)

SECOND NOTE: I'm sorry if I offended anyone who has a personal connection with the creation of Disney-Central, but my purpose of the rant was to show how the mIRC base of it makes the entire experience very frustrating...

 

[barnum42]

Hi I'm new here- but it sounds like this is the right place to look....
I am looking for the file sharing site where I can download songs from Disney cruise line- can someone point me in the right direction and let me know where instuctions are?

I appreciate the help!
Celeste

Can't say I've ever noticed cruise line music, but then I've never looked. Give Disney Central a try. Even if you don't find them, there is a lot of other fun things there. Instructions are in the following thread:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37734

 

[PeeplMoovr]

Not to beat a dead horse, and I'm okay with mIRC (although I do get connection failed messages a bit), but has anyone every considered using Newsgroups for these vids and audio? I use newsgroups often and they're a great resource for this kind of stuff. I've seen some stuff in the disney newsgroups, but not to the extent I've seen in on mIRC and torrents.
Thanks again for taking the time on mIRC and the file-sharing site (I've used that as well). It's much appreciated.

 

[HauntedPirate]

There was a newsgroup dedicated to audio/video from the parks - alt.binaries.multimedia.disney. Unfortunately, my ISP dropped the binary newsfeed about the time that most, if not all, regulars stopped using that particular newsgroup due to flooding by Dutch posters. So, there still may be a newsgroup or newsgroups dedicated to Disney, you'll just have to do some digging.

I like the torrents, I just haven't used them much outside the DL 50th series.

Wow, typing this brought back some bad, nasty emotions about the whole binary newsfeed thing.

 

[Chris Lang]

Most of those "regulars" migrated to alt.binaries.multimedia.disney.parks

Not all ISP's carry this fairly new newsgroup, so you may have to request it. I know Verizon is carrying it on their newsgroups.

 

[mrtoad]

I have really had no issues with downloads. Just one big one the other day (twice). The first time I lost the connection on the other end but I was reconnected quick and the other time, for some reason my surge protector died on me the other day and my PC shut down. No other issues than that one file though.