Yes, but there are several methods that can be used to gauge a sites sinkhole potential. They can not 100% rule out a sinkhole but they will typically show if there is a potential problem.
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Why Horizons?
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redshoesrock
Active Member
They can, yes. I do know that the land Future World is on does have some "hole-like" parts in it; I can remember attending Marty Sklar's talk at Epcot's 25th anniversary and listening to Marty describe when they were putting in the monorail pillars. According to him, one of them is so long "it must go to the center of the earth."
Indeed. The closest Sinkhole is in the lake infront of Odyssey.
Ask this; would you build a multi-million dollar attraction that spins at high speeds, relies on millimeter precission and carries thousands of members of the public each day on a sinkhole?
There was no sinkhole.
Ask this; would you build a multi-million dollar attraction that spins at high speeds, relies on millimeter precission and carries thousands of members of the public each day on a sinkhole?
There was no sinkhole.
wayneway
Member
WorldKey
Member
A fantastic and level headed answer - without the politics!! I agree - ultimately it came down to a sponser (money). Although I do often wonder about how the cost to maintain these Future World pavilions can't be found in the daily ticket price to the park......lots of cash coming in the front gate.......
SleepingMonk
Well-Known Member
Great point.
The Hulk, The Mummy, Spiderman, etc...
No sponsors needed and they seem to handle maintenance just fine all while surpassing many of the WDW corporate coasters.
I do not know how correct this information is but from what I was told there is very little profit in the park tickets. For the most part tickets, APs, etc cover the operating costs of the parks but not much more. The real money is made through merchandise and food.
Great points.
THEMEPARKPIONEER
Well-Known Member
Even if Horizons had to go, the building and hardware itself could have housed and made a great ride no matter what it was. The pavilion was equipped with an electronic Himboarder system, 2 imax screens, a simulator system and plenty of space for scenery. The best part is you can experience all of that with a 30 minute or less wait. Where else can you see an Imax, ride a simulator and a dark ride in less then an hour. Even if they wanted to do away with Horizons that building itself was an opportunity to make another great ride. It was a very resourceful building with valuable features. From my understanding they couldn't gut Horizons and make room for the Mission Space simulators because the building was built around the track and the hardware. Sadly 3 years Wonders of Life closed. That would be the perfect building for Mission Space and they wouldn't have to spend all that money for the demolition and the new building. All they would need to do is install the new simulators, a Que. area and a post show. They wanted a smaller building with less up keep, but now they are left with a bigger building to keep up and only half of it is being used seasonally. Not everyone can ride Mission Space. I am wondering if they will even keep their sponsor for Mission Space, the last time I was there Soarin had a longer wait then Space Mountain and Mission Space had barley any wait at all.
misterID
Well-Known Member
You know, I still think Horizons, after a good refurb, would have fit HP/compaq better than M:S.
draybook
Well-Known Member
While I don't disagree or fail to see the logic, my point was that I'm sure that if there was a sinkhole, nobody is going to plan on it. I'm just looking for definitive proof on either side.
FigmentJedi
Well-Known Member
The Robinsons comparison in the OP just makes me imagine a modern Horizons narrated by Tom Selleck and Nicole Sullivan. Yeah, I know, character tie-in, but I could easily see a Robinson Industries backed Mesa Verde, Sea Castle and Brava Centauri
THEMEPARKPIONEER
Well-Known Member
Anything placed in that building would. It's a family ride for anyone at any ages. Just the Ominax, the ending simulator and the amazing scenery should have been a sellout. Soarin is a groundbreaking success. Compaq would have many more viewers instead they are sponsoring a pavilion that only gets a third of Epcot's attendance. Siemens gets way better exposure as well as GE. I bet if they used that system wether it was Horizons or some other ride, the features that that track has would have sucked in the crowds with the help of some promotion on the park map. Look at Soarin, it's a hole in the wall in the Land Pavilion, it's a trip into a lobby, down an escalator and is hidden off to the left kind of out of place and the entrance is the size of my Garage Door. Not to mention its a 5 minute show almost not even worth waiting for. It has an extremely long line and I have seen it on the front page many times.
RedWench
New Member
Call me sentimental, but I love alot of the old rides that are no more. Horizons was one of my favorites. Who didn't smile when they passed thru the orange groves and could actually smell the oranges?? Besides Horizons, I miss World of Motion. I love www.yesterland.com so that I can at least see pictures. Plus, I bought a cool DVD from the now defunked extinct attracations club of Horizons, and there is always youtube.
FYI there is great footage of the old River Country water park on youtube (a couple of guys snuck onto the property to get it)...its like a ghost town.