Why does anyone like to go to Magic Mountain?

Touchdown

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I Disagree. I have NEVER had a bad time at Magic Mountain.
I only had a decent time there because I had a flash pass and was rather disappointed with the lack of anything else at the park besides a coaster. Without the flash pass I would have been miserable. I think Cedar Point does a much better job as an amusement park focused on coasters because it still has a bunch of non coaster rides and shows to keep everyone happy.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
No. I'd wish. I am just someone who greatly enjoys Magic Mountain for what it is.
That's nice. I'm hoping that it gets improved under new management as a rollercoaster lover.

I remember playing it as one of the featured parks under Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 growing up (which is definitely where my fascination with rollercoasters started, lol) and thinking it looked great just from the recreation. I dislike what terrible company has been running it.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
I only had a decent time there because I had a flash pass and was rather disappointed with the lack of anything else at the park besides a coaster. Without the flash pass I would have been miserable. I think Cedar Point does a much better job as an amusement park focused on coasters because it still has a bunch of non coaster rides and shows to keep everyone happy.
I LOVED Knott's. And I agree about the non-coaster rides. I've actually never done a Cedar Fair park before, but I could take my 64-year-old father, who definitely is into tamer rides, and there's stuff he would do there. He'd do Jaguar and probably Silver Bullet (he's done a similar one) but I don't think he would do Xcellerator, Hangtime, or Ghost Rider, but there's still plenty of other stuff there.
 

Phroobar

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The deal right now if you buy a gold pass to Knott's, you can get an all parks add on with free parking. That lets you into Knott's and Magic Mountain with free parking for the price of a regular pass with parking.

$195 gets free parking and no blackout dates at any Six Flags or Cedar Fair park in the country. Deal expires tomorrow.
 

Phroobar

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Think what you will, but Magic Mountain is indeed an iconic amusement park.
It is Wally World.

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CaptinEO

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I only had a decent time there because I had a flash pass and was rather disappointed with the lack of anything else at the park besides a coaster. Without the flash pass I would have been miserable. I think Cedar Point does a much better job as an amusement park focused on coasters because it still has a bunch of non coaster rides and shows to keep everyone happy.
Six Flags Magic Mountain used to have great shows, I remember in 2005 they had both a professional magic stage show in the colossus theater and the batman stunt show in the bay area of the park. Sad these are gone along with log jammer which was a great family ride.
 

Phroobar

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Six Flags Magic Mountain used to have great shows, I remember in 2005 they had both a professional magic stage show in the colossus theater and the batman stunt show in the bay area of the park. Sad these are gone along with log jammer which was a great family ride.
Disneyland had great shows too like Aladdin and Frozen at DCA and Snow White in the Fantasyland theater. They are all gone.
 

denyuntilcaught

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Six Flags Magic Mountain used to have great shows, I remember in 2005 they had both a professional magic stage show in the colossus theater and the batman stunt show in the bay area of the park. Sad these are gone along with log jammer which was a great family ride.
I wonder if any of this sort of entertainment will return with the Cedar Fair merger of operations.
 

Touchdown

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I wonder if any of this sort of entertainment will return with the Cedar Fair merger of operations.
Unlikely, Knotts is very much an outlier in this but CF has been slashing entertainment budgets at their other parks for the last few years. Thankfully the local management at Knotts has been fighting that trend.
 

Phroobar

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It's worth mentioning that Six Flags is like $7-13/month with parking included if you get a membership.

If you're local then it's a convenient way to kill a Saturday morning once or twice a month.
Since my Knotts pass includes Magic Mountain now with free parking, I'll have to go down every so often to ride Viper.
 

Professortango1

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Unlikely, Knotts is very much an outlier in this but CF has been slashing entertainment budgets at their other parks for the last few years. Thankfully the local management at Knotts has been fighting that trend.
But even still, we've been seeing the cutbacks at Knott's Entertainment for the past decade or so with Scary Farm. The event used to have about half a dozen live shows from Hacks Improv to a full show in the birdcage, full show in the Ghoul Time Theatre, Blood Drums, The Hanging, Chipper Lowel in the Wagon Camp, Belly Dancers, Freak Shows. Now...we get magicians going a weekend gig of 14-minute "packs small" tricks, a photo op in the big theatre, and two really mediocre stage shows.

I remember when I wished there was a season pass for Scary Farm because there was too many things to experience in one or even two trips. When they finally rolled out the season pass for Scary Farm, they had cut a majority of the entertainment to pay for Elvira's stiff corpse to be rolled out on stage and stumble through jokes twice a night.
 

PiratesMansion

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Is Viper rumored to go away?
Not at the moment in the way that some other rides are throughout the Six Flags chain. That said, I'd say it has to be a prime removal candidate because it's an old Arrow coaster and, in particular, it is the last enormous Arrow looping coaster anywhere in the country.

The smaller Arrow coasters were generally well-designed for the period, even if not all of them hold up to the expectations of modern coaster riders. However, as Arrow built larger rides in the 80s, they didn't scale the tech up appropriately, and many, many of the rides built in this area proved highly problematic from a design/structure standpoint. Viper's sister coasters, Shockwave at SFGAm and GASM at SFGAdv, are long gone. Viper is the only ride of its kind left.

And with the merger, the new Six Flags is going to be looking to cut costs. The last remaining Intamin bobsled quietly closed without warning at Six Flags over Texas and is already listed as demolished; coaster insiders have claimed that Kingda Ka, the world's tallest coaster, is done for at Six Flags Great Adventure and that it too will meet the wrecking ball. While I know nothing, I'd imagine that Viper, Superman, and/or X2 are in much greater danger of closure than they were before the merger.
 

denyuntilcaught

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And with the merger, the new Six Flags is going to be looking to cut costs. The last remaining Intamin bobsled quietly closed without warning at Six Flags over Texas and is already listed as demolished; coaster insiders have claimed that Kingda Ka, the world's tallest coaster, is done for at Six Flags Great Adventure and that it too will meet the wrecking ball. While I know nothing, I'd imagine that Viper, Superman, and/or X2 are in much greater danger of closure than they were before the merger.
The Kingda Ka rumor is so wild to me given it's really one of the most iconic coasters at SFGA.
 

PiratesMansion

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The Kingda Ka rumor is so wild to me given it's really one of the most iconic coasters at SFGA.
It's really only wild because if the rumor is true, there was no official notice given. To think the tallest coaster in the world can just close suddenly without warning is ludicrous and short-sighted.

Otherwise, I absolutely can understand why they'd want to get rid of it. It's a pain to maintain and expensive to run (reportedly requiring a 24/7 maintenance crew to keep it running). The ride won't even be the tallest in the world anymore once the ride in Saudi Arabia is up and running and it lost its speed record long ago. The new SF bosses are looking to cut costs, and their attempt to redo Top Thrill Dragster into something more workable has blown up in their face. So I can very much understand them wanting to bow out of that mess and put something in there that will be more reliable and less maintenance intensive.

If the rumors are true and Green Lantern is out at the same time, it's even more crazy, though really I can't defend Green Lantern as an experience on any level and thus can't say I'll miss it.
 

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