Why do large people get to skip to the front of the line?

[breakin2]

My family and I recently got back from an 8 day vacation to WDW. Before going, my brother told me that I'm going to learn to hate the fatties on scooters. I had so much on my mind leading up to things, that I completely forgot that he told me that when I left.

Well, it didn't take me long to remember. I have NO problem with people who are handicapped being bumped to the front of the lines. However, when a person is simply overweight and too lazy to walk the park, I feel it is very unfair to those who choose to walk. By the end of the week, I was rolling my eyes every time we approached our turn to board a ride and had to wait longer because some obese person and her party of 5 just got bumped to the front of the line.

This doesn't just include the attractions because the transportation system is the same way. We'll be in a large line waiting to go to a resort and a scooter fatty will pull up in the handicapped area. When the bus pulls in, guess who gets on first. Nevermind the fact that he/she was among the last to get in line. Furthermore, they're entire party gets on with them. The scooter takes up 3 seats and the person usually gets off to sit in a bus seat. That's 4 seats gone for 1 person, plus however many is in their party to people who were able to cut the line. Not fair.

Again, I have no problem with people who are honestly handicapped. However, if your handicap is that you don't like to walk because you're out of shape, I have no sympathy for you. Wait in lines like the rest of us.

 

[EPCOTPluto]

Of course, it probably is a medical issue, which is why they are using it in the first place.
Yes, it is time-consuming for someone in a ECV with about 12 to board the bus first, but it would be impossible if the bus was crowded.
I would be careful of what to say here. It IS a touchy subject to discuss.

 

[Fun2BFree]

This is going to be a horribly violent thread with insult-throwing and arguments aplenty.

That being said, perhaps the rental of ECVs could be monitored more strictly, for instance requiring a doctor's note. I know for a fact you can easily exploit the system to gain a Guest Assistance Card or ECV without valid medical reason, and it gives the 90% that genuinely need it such a bad reputation.

Much of the ill-will towards ECV users comes under the assumption that the user doesn't need one or is 'lazy'. Perhaps if cheaters were cracked down upon, this stigma would not exist.

 

[disneyowf]

I would agree with you BUT I still think we need to be careful and not just throw a 'blanket' judgment on all overweight people. There may be some overweight people who may have some type of 'disability' or 'handicap' and they may not be visible just from observing them on a scooter. My wife (who is overweight) completely ruptured her Achilles tendon this January. There is a 1 to 1-1/2 year recovery period for this. We already had to cancel our Disney trip for this past Feb because of this. Now if we're able to go back later this year, she may have to ride some type of scooter part of the time. She can walk, but not very far. She has no 'cast' or physical evidence of a problem. So I'm 'just sayin', you need to be careful. I do agree wholeheartedly (my wife would absolutely agree as well and I DO speak from experience as I was over 320 pounds at one point in my life) that people should not be LAZY and rewarded for it, but there are the exceptions to the rule...

 

[balletgirl2]

My family and I recently got back from an 8 day vacation to WDW. Before going, my brother told me that I'm going to learn to hate the fatties on scooters. I had so much on my mind leading up to things, that I completely forgot that he told me that when I left.

Well, it didn't take me long to remember. I have NO problem with people who are handicapped being bumped to the front of the lines. However, when a person is simply overweight and too lazy to walk the park, I feel it is very unfair to those who choose to walk. By the end of the week, I was rolling my eyes every time we approached our turn to board a ride and had to wait longer because some obese person and her party of 5 just got bumped to the front of the line.

This doesn't just include the attractions because the transportation system is the same way. We'll be in a large line waiting to go to a resort and a scooter fatty will pull up in the handicapped area. When the bus pulls in, guess who gets on first. Nevermind the fact that he/she was among the last to get in line. Furthermore, they're entire party gets on with them. The scooter takes up 3 seats and the person usually gets off to sit in a bus seat. That's 4 seats gone for 1 person, plus however many is in their party to people who were able to cut the line. Not fair.

Again, I have no problem with people who are honestly handicapped. However, if your handicap is that you don't like to walk because you're out of shape, I have no sympathy for you. Wait in lines like the rest of us.

Wow! Can you really be that ignorant?:fork: Clearly you are not very educated on human anatomy and physiology! Do you have any shred of a clue what excess weight does to your musculoskeletal system? Let alone the battery of other pathologies that comes along with obesity. You my friend are the disgusting one not the "fatties". They may be overweight but they have every right to enjoy WDW.

 

[EPCOTPluto]

That being said, perhaps the rental of ECVs could be monitored more strictly, for instance requiring a doctor's note. I know for a fact you can easily exploit the system to gain a Guest Assistance Card or ECV without valid medical reason, and it gives the 90% that genuinely need it such a bad reputation.

Much of the ill-will towards ECV users comes under the assumption that the user doesn't need one or is 'lazy'. Perhaps if cheaters were cracked down upon, this stigma would not exist.

I never knew it can be exploited like so. That really does need to be stopped. I thought the doctor's note only was needed in order to rent an ECV or wheelchair. But there will always be stupid people deliberately using a wheelchair for front-of-the-line access.

 

[ligarced]

I totally agree with you on this one. It got my family and me soo mad when we went last year. If you are handicapped it is one thing. Most of the large people just don't like to walk. They are also really rude with their scooters. One almost ran my brother over. The bus thing gets me real mad. They should have busses just for people in wheel chairs and scooters.
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[krankenstein]

!! :lookaroun

 

[Phonedave]

Wow! Can you really be that ignorant?:fork: Clearly you are not very educated on human anatomy and physiology! Do you have any shred of a clue what excess weight does to your musculoskeletal system? Let alone the battery of other pathologies that comes along with obesity. You my friend are the disgusting one not the "fatties". They may be overweight but they have every right to enjoy WDW.

Don't even bother.

He is a brand new poster.

His first post was that height requirements are stupid, because the rides are safe for smaller kids. When I asked him what his qualifications were that enabled him to make this assesment, he said "common sense"

Then his next post was about "scooter fatties"

Just let it slide, my bag of troll food is empty.

-dave

 

[Master Yoda]

lock in T-minus 3....2.....

 

[stevieg639]

As much as we want to regulate the uses of ECVs in the park, the company still makes money on them being rented. If they were regulated there would be ECV's not rented and they are here in the parks to be rented and used whether or not they should be used. In the cases of the bus, Disney has no control on the people who use non Disney ECVs, which is the case when bording a bus. From a strickly business standpoint, it would not be a wise move to regulate them.

 

[Vernonpush]

 

[AshaNeOmah]

Lock incoming... Don't get started on this topic. It is a 'dead horse'.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

I smell a troll...

 

[SleepingMonk]

"There but for the grace of God, go I."

That's my new take on things these days. I don't personally know what condition they have or if they even have a condition at all. What I do know is I'm healthy and totally free to move about on my own two feet. I'm thankful for it and will do my best to appreciate that gift.

 

[breakin2]

Don't even bother.

He is a brand new poster.

He first post was that height requirement are stupid, because the rides are safe for smaller kids. When I asked him what his qualifications were that enabled him to make this assesment, he said "common sense"

Then his next post was about "scooter fatties"

Just let it slide, my bag of troll food is empty.

-dave

So you stand by the idea that the Imagineers created these rides where the perfect minimum height just so happened to be 40" every single time? Wow, what a nice coincidence that worked out to be! I stand by my assessment that, yes, common sense from having actually been on the rides tells me that my 38 inch daughter would have been quite fine on the ride. The extra 2 inches that Disney required would have played no part in her safety on the ride.

 

[wdwmagic]

I'm going to close this thread as it isnt going to be productive.