Why can't you catch a bus from the Parks to Disney Springs?

coolmark18

coolmark18

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Is there no reason why Disney couldn't do a bus from Theme Park to Disney Springs. And then that bus turns into a bus from Disney Springs to a resort? Essentially stopping any customers *from* Disney Springs direct access to the parks?

Also I cant imagine Disney Springs charging for parking, they want to attract as much footfall as possible.
 
mm121

mm121

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Disnee4Me said:
I seem to think you used to be able to, but now you have to catch a bus back to your resort first, then to Disney Springs. I'm thinking maybe this is to prevent people (staying off property) from parking at Disney Springs and then catching a bus to a park, thereby avoiding the parking fee.
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thats exactly why, technically they could offer a bus FROM the parks TO disney springs, then just either run it back empty or have it switch to a different route. Though that would probably cause more confusion than its worth.

the easiest thing if you really want to go direct would be to take a bus from a park to a resort near DS and either take a boat or walk

it would seem as though soon they may want to figure out a system of checking magic bands for passengers embarking at DS to be sure they are staying on property
 
mm121

mm121

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Kobe!! said:
So is it safe to say Disney Springs will not charge for parking (if or when) the parking charges at the resorts goes into effect?
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legally i dont think they can charge for parking in the new garage at least not without figuring out some kind of leasing agreement to lease the garages from rcid

though they arent designed for charging at all, so thats not happening at least without some type of major technological installation to like say charge via sunpass. as there just isnt the sheer amount of space needed for booths and space for the traffic to backup like it does getting into the Uni garages.

and traffic backing up onto the ramp was one of the big concerns they had in getting the direct i-4 ramp approved to begin with so they wouldnt want to do things to cause that to happen
coolmark18 said:
Is there no reason why Disney couldn't do a bus from Theme Park to Disney Springs. And then that bus turns into a bus from Disney Springs to a resort? Essentially stopping any customers *from* Disney Springs direct access to the parks?

Also I cant imagine Disney Springs charging for parking, they want to attract as much footfall as possible.
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they technically could run a one way bus, though that would cause some headachs with dispatch id think always having to find a new bus for the TO trips since the busses from the FROM trips changed destinations

and good luck getting people to exit a bus without new people getting on the bus.

they wont be charging to park anytime soon, if anything they'll start scanning bands which is really the only feasible way to end the parking at DS for the parks problem, if it even is a problem since id think most people that know how to do it would have annual passes or something,
 
Disney4family

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We just grabbed a taxi from the Studios. We'd rather waste a stupid $10 and get there in a few minutes than waste the time it would take us to fly from Long Island to Orlando to get there. Not in the mood to waste valuable time. Did it once. Never again.
 
Goofyernmost

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coolmark18 said:
Is there no reason why Disney couldn't do a bus from Theme Park to Disney Springs. And then that bus turns into a bus from Disney Springs to a resort? Essentially stopping any customers *from* Disney Springs direct access to the parks?

Also I cant imagine Disney Springs charging for parking, they want to attract as much footfall as possible.
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mm121 said:
thats exactly why, technically they could offer a bus FROM the parks TO disney springs, then just either run it back empty or have it switch to a different route. Though that would probably cause more confusion than its worth.

the easiest thing if you really want to go direct would be to take a bus from a park to a resort near DS and either take a boat or walk

it would seem as though soon they may want to figure out a system of checking magic bands for passengers embarking at DS to be sure they are staying on property
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mm121 said:
they technically could run a one way bus, though that would cause some headachs with dispatch id think always having to find a new bus for the TO trips since the busses from the FROM trips changed destinations

and good luck getting people to exit a bus without new people getting on the bus.

they wont be charging to park anytime soon, if anything they'll start scanning bands which is really the only feasible way to end the parking at DS for the parks problem, if it even is a problem since id think most people that know how to do it would have annual passes or something,
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In reality almost all bus routes are done that way, Disney is no exception. There are very few back and forth single routes that can work without having massive holdups someplace due to traffic, accidents, etc. The real headache would happen when offsite people that paid money to park want to use the bus to go to Disney Springs from there. Then they would be burdened with a situation that could be really bad, depending on independent closure times between the Springs and the Parks. There maybe no buses running to the parks when they need to get back to their location. The paying group is the one that, logically, they have to consider in this. The non-payers are just leaching anyway, so why worry about it.
 
Disnee4Me

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And I'm thinking now that charging at Disney Springs parking lot might hurt their local business. Some locals may not necessary want to go into the park, but may just want to dine/shop every now and then. I know if I lived local, I'd want to do that.
 
mm121

mm121

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Disnee4Me said:
And I'm thinking now that charging at Disney Springs parking lot might hurt their local business. Some locals may not necessary want to go into the park, but may just want to dine/shop every now and then. I know if I lived local, I'd want to do that.
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not sure how many times it has to be said

there are currently NO plans to start charging at DS

charging would require a major technological upgrade and roadway redesign, regardless of the fact its possibly not legal under the way the garages were financed and would have to be done in a way that could GUARANTEE ramp traffic wont back up onto I-4.
 
disneygeek90

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Ran into this problem a couple months ago while staying at the Best Western near DS. I'm an AP but didn't want to drive (drinking at Epcot). We took the morning shuttle from the hotel to the park, then ran into the issue of not having a shuttle back to DS. Ended up hoping on the first Hotel bus shuttle, I think for All Stars, then took one to DS from there. Kind of an extra step, but got us where we needed to.
 
TheGuyThatMakesSwords

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All personal opinion - and I've said it before: WDW has a significant perceived problem with DTD/Disney Springs. The problem is likely to be MAGNIFIED by all the time, money, and work Disney is investing in DTD/DS.

Disney continues to perceive the DTD/DS area as a "Free Parking" Zone. So? They continue to limit access to it. At the same time? They continue to invest BIG Dollars into the area :). So the message appears to be "Come to Disney Springs.... WHOOPS! Not so fast..... we don't want you THAT badly" :).

Just me? This is the HEIGHT of Corporate Schizophrenia. Just guessing - but it looks like the LEFT hand is wrestling with the RIGHT hand. Given the money invested - I wonder how long this will continue?

Whatever the solution is - it's going to be Disney's solution - not ours. All I know is that someone, at a fairly High Level, needs to make up their mind as to the future of this area. Indirectly dissuading guests from going there, via the creation of an obstacle course, is not going to cut it in the future. Disney has options - they simply need to DECIDE on one, then use it.
 
Polydweller

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TheGuyThatMakesSwords said:
All personal opinion - and I've said it before: WDW has a significant perceived problem with DTD/Disney Springs. The problem is likely to be MAGNIFIED by all the time, money, and work Disney is investing in DTD/DS.

Disney continues to perceive the DTD/DS area as a "Free Parking" Zone. So? They continue to limit access to it. At the same time? They continue to invest BIG Dollars into the area :). So the message appears to be "Come to Disney Springs.... WHOOPS! Not so fast..... we don't want you THAT badly" :).

Just me? This is the HEIGHT of Corporate Schizophrenia. Just guessing - but it looks like the LEFT hand is wrestling with the RIGHT hand. Given the money invested - I wonder how long this will continue?

Whatever the solution is - it's going to be Disney's solution - not ours. All I know is that someone, at a fairly High Level, needs to make up their mind as to the future of this area. Indirectly dissuading guests from going there, via the creation of an obstacle course, is not going to cut it in the future. Disney has options - they simply need to DECIDE on one, then use it.
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It wasn't a perceived problem, it was very, very real. There were so many people using the free parking, and it was and is, that patrons of the shops and restaurants couldn't find parking. That negatively affects revenue for those businesses. Now when Disney is essentially running a mall and charging rents for the spaces that is a very bad thing. So, they make sure patrons can get there. A large portion are locals so they better be able to park.

Rather than dissuading people from going there, this actually encourages patrons to go since they no they can get there. Resort guests can still get there easily via bus, car, boat so Disney's own guests can get there. The only people who have a major problem are those who are theme park patrons trying to get free parking.
 
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wdrive

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Last summer they did have park to Disney Springs, or Downtown as it was then, buses. I'm not sure how long these lasted though.
 
NonnaT

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Master Yoda said:
You underestimate the cheapness of some people.

My college girlfriend's father would not have batted an eye at having to take 2 hours worth of bus rides to save $20.
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My very EX boyfriend either! Lol, happily married now for 27 years, but that comment brought the past barreling back!
That cheapness was a deal breaker! Don't mind frugal or careful, but cheap,, unhuh!
 
G00fyDad

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Goofyernmost said:
Parking at DS to save a few bucks in parking is a concept that I have never been able to wrap my brain around. It is so much handier to be close to your vehicle. I can't speak for others, but, when I have reached my limit for walking, and exploring a park, what I want to do is leave. I don't want to have to even take a bus to anyplace to get out of Dodge. Even when I stayed on-site, after one bus trip from POP to MK and my vehicle was in use after that. There is nothing fun about a bus ride at closing time.
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I am exactly the same way. We rent a vehicle on every trip to WDW just so we don't have to stand in line waiting for a bus to get back to the resort. So much quicker and comfortable. Nothing against other people but I am already sweaty and irritable after a long day in the parks. I'd rather sit in a comfortable car/suv than sit next to another sweaty and irritable person.
 
NonnaT

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G00fyDad said:
I am exactly the same way. We rent a vehicle on every trip to WDW just so we don't have to stand in line waiting for a bus to get back to the resort. So much quicker and comfortable. Nothing against other people but I am already sweaty and irritable after a long day in the parks. I'd rather sit in a comfortable car/suv than sit next to another sweaty and irritable person.
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Agreed!!! We always rent a car, therefore don't have issues of 1.5 hours to get to a TS meal, say at AK...
That being said we chose to take the bus to HS the night of the very first Star Wars FW. We were really really lucky, and we're back at our resort within 25 minutes! I'm pretty sure we would not have been out of the parking lot in that time!
I like to stop and get a case of water on our way in from MCO as well.
 
DisneyDukie

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In theory, wouldn't it be "fastest" to take a bus to SSR? (I always feel like I see more SSR buses while waiting for the bus to my resort than any other hotel!) Since SSR is walking distance and has the launches to DS?
 

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