who/what is "TDO"?

[Hakunamatata]

Yes, that is correct, those bygone days have past. Now businesses have to answer to Wall Street if they wish to remain solvent. Profit has trumpted quality long ago.

I have a different perspective. I personally think entitlement has trumped liberty. Some think they should be able to demand a certain experience at a certain price. The free market does not work that way. There are plenty of businesses that provide high quality and high profit, but you have to pay a higher price for it. Allot of people on here will complain when ticket prices go up or services are reduced or eliminated, they complain, but they keep going back. If you are really dissatisfied with the value you are receiving, don't go.

 

[Lee]

Yes, that is correct, those bygone days have past. Now businesses have to answer to Wall Street if they wish to remain solvent. Profit has trumpted quality long ago.

Debatable, at least in Disney's case.
Not so long ago, the company's belief was that higher quality would lead to higher profits. The old "spend money to make money" theory.
It has since morphed into "cut corners and save money to make more profit."
That, in my opinion, is the biggest problem.

 

[Lee]

I There are plenty of businesses that provide high quality and high profit, but you have to pay a higher price for it. Allot of people on here will complain when ticket prices go up or services are reduced or eliminated, they complain, but they keep going back.

I don't think most people would complain if prices increased along with additional benefits. If two new E-tickets go up in MK, I wouldn't argue with a slight price increase. I do argue when prices increase while offerings and quality go down. That is simply common sense.

 

[njDizFan]

I have a different perspective. I personally think entitlement has trumped liberty. Some think they should be able to demand a certain experience at a certain price. The free market does not work that way. There are plenty of businesses that provide high quality and high profit, but you have to pay a higher price for it. Allot of people on here will complain when ticket prices go up or services are reduced or eliminated, they complain, but they keep going back. If you are really dissatisfied with the value you are receiving, don't go.

I see your point but I would definatly not put myself in the entitlement boat(and not sure about what you mean about losing our liberty). The free market as a pure capitalist theory should mean that if you make the best product then it should reap the benefit of profit and market preference.

Disney has a little problem because there is no true competitor. True there is Uni and all the local theme parks but all are on a smaller order. But lately these smaller competitors have been doing things that TWDC has not done in years and that is provide cutting edge entertainment.

When a product is the best I can see the value even if at a higher price but since Disney has such a loyal fanbase they have been able to decrease the value of the product and still reap the benefit of huge profits. That skews the free market process.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Ummmm, Disney offered stock to the public in 1957, and what have they been trying to do since then?


Make people's dreams come true?



Jimmy Thick-* Offering a chuckle *

 

[Hakunamatata]

I see your point but I would definatly not put myself in the entitlement boat(and not sure about what you mean about losing our liberty). The free market as a pure capitalist theory should mean that if you make the best product then it should reap the benefit of profit and market preference.

Disney has a little problem because there is no true competitor. True there is Uni and all the local theme parks but all are on a smaller order. But lately these smaller competitors have been doing things that TWDC has not done in years and that is provide cutting edge entertainment.

When a product is the best I can see the value even if at a higher price but since Disney has such a loyal fanbase they have been able to decrease the value of the product and still reap the benefit of huge profits. That skews the free market process.

Probably best I not go into a detailed explanation as it could be construed as a political rant, and those never turn out well.

 

[njDizFan]

Probably best I not go into a detailed explanation as it could be construed as a political rant, and those never turn out well.

Haha, that's the truth.

 

[HMF]

Been trying to figure it out for a while and just can't:veryconfu. And it is not on the acronym list! TIA:wave:
Pam

The inept morons who currently run Walt Disney World.

 

[HMF]

Define we.

Those of us that care about the fact that they are currently turning WDW into a pale shadow of it's former greatness.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Those of us that care about the fact that they are currently turning WDW into a pale shadow of it's former greatness.

I would say more of an opinion than fact.

 

[HMF]

Just a couple of points...

TDO, and Disney Social Media, actively reads this and other forums. (Hi, guys!)
Yes, they know who you are.:lookaroun

What is said/discussed here is tracked and monitored. It can, and sometimes does, have small effects on plans.

Some, but not all of the posters who criticize TDO here do so from a position of knowledge. Some first hand, some second. To dismiss all criticism of TDO as inaccurate or as baseless would be doing yourself a disservice. Some of us know what we are talking about, like it or not.

It is entirely possible, even common, to love Disney parks and to disagree with how they are being run. Like with a sports team, for example.

TDO is not some giant, evil entity. It's people, some good...some not so much.
They make mistakes and bad decisions. (Cutting Space Mountain's refurb budget, passing on adding a new scene to Pirates, axing new parades and shows, slashing maintenance budgets, etc.)

The number of posters who disagree with/complains about TDO is if no consequence, be it 5 or 500. What matters is that the message gets out and is seen by thousands of others. Knowledge spreads, eyes are opened. Except, of course, for those who just can't/won't keep an open mind.

Lest we forget how the vocal Disneyland fan base helped get rid of Paul Pressler and fix DCA.

 

[HMF]

That's nice and everything, but the investors think different.

Sorry, but I would trust a visionary creative genius like Walt over greedy money-obsessed investors and the criminals on Wall Street

 

[CountryBearFan]

The TDO people ARE NOT morons! They DO care about quality, despite what the small minority thinks or likes to think!

They are NOTHING like Eisner, Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harris!

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Lest we forget how the vocal Disneyland fan base helped get rid of Paul Pressler and fix DCA.

Fiction, if not total nonsense.

Pressler jumped ship from Disney to Gap because he assumed he would never run the company due to Eisner being heavy handed. When Pressler ran the resorts division, they were the jewel of the company.


Jimmy Thick-Lurve it when people make stuff up.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

The TDO people ARE NOT morons! They DO care about quality, despite what the small minority thinks or likes to think!

They are NOTHING like Eisner, Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harris!

The Disney you have today is because of Eisner, he reworked the company from a joke to the powerhouse it is now and well into the future. In the level of importance to the Disney company, first its Walt, then Eisner, then a lot of people who would be interchangeable.

Very, VERY shortsighted to call the man a moron.


Jimmy Thick-He deserves a statue i all parks!!!

 

[Lee]

Fiction, if not total nonsense.

Pressler jumped ship from Disney to Gap because he assumed he would never run the company due to Eisner being heavy handed.

I can state with certainty that this is not true. Paul did not leave voluntarily. He was...encouraged...to find another job after his completely inept running of P&R and Disneyland.
Not a bad guy, just unfit for those jobs. As we're his two immediate replacements.

 

[Lee]

The Disney you have today is because of Eisner, he reworked the company from a joke to the powerhouse it is now and well into the future.

Wait...
What????

Holy crap! I actually agree with something Thick posted!

 

[unkadug]

Wait...
What????

Holy crap! I actually agree with something Thick posted!

It's just too bad that he has said so much crap before this.

Most people will just lump that remark in with all his other delusional ramblings.

 

[CountryBearFan]

As smw pointed out it stands for Team Disney Orlando. Essentially they are the management team for WDW. They make pretty much every decision regarding the operation, maintenance, expansion, etc of WDW.

No, that is not true!

TDO is nothing more than a building. Same with TDA (Team Disney Anaheim).

 

[Lee]

No, that is not true!

TDO is nothing more than a building. Same with TDA (Team Disney Anaheim).

Buildings, yes...but those acronyms also serve as the commonly accepted ways to refer to the management teams of the resorts.
(Like when we refer to Burbank or Glendale, we aren't referring to the actual cities, but to the Disney divisions located there.)