who else is ready for harry potter?

[MouseMadness]

I forgot last night (and almost got out of bed to add, LOL!) that also, sorta tied in with explaining the Pettigrew, Black, Lupin, and Potter connection (and Wormtail, Padfoot, Mooney and Prongs), they didn't explain Harry's patronus being a stag!! Doesn't that just seem like a HUGE oversight? I mean, how much longer would it have taken to explain these things? 10, 15 minutes? Okay, other than that, the movie was SUPERB. :lol:

 

[imagineer boy]

Originally posted by Pippa
Hey all, sorry for the long wait for my reply. Our local screening was sold out, it was great and Micheal Gambon definately plays it his own way which is cool. I agree that the link between Lupin etc was not explained and I think you need to read the book as well as see the film, I am surprised that JK Rowling let that be cut, I was dissappointed that Sir Cadogan was also dropped, still maybe the dropped stuff will be on the DVD extras or a directors cut. I can't see what they can drop from book 4 as its all pretty essential plot stuff but we will have to wait until Nov 05 apparently.

Actually, you did see Sir Cadogan, during the scene where they were looking at the torn canvas, you see him in the backround pictures trying to get a better look, acting all heroic, but it never centers on him.

Anyway, I saw it, and really liked it. The thing I liked about it was that it didn't follow the book exactly, but still kept the story good similar to what Peter Jackson did with LOTR. The dementors were creepy, and am I the only one who really found Lupin as the Wear Wolf very creepy?:lookaroun imagineer99, I do kind of agree that the last shot of the film was a bit odd. I did like the Firebolt being left till the end, but the part where it freezes on a blurred Harry's face was kind of cheesy. The musical score was very good also and they didn't keep using the same theme song over and over and over and over and over again like in the first two. I also liked how they gave Fred and George, Seamus, Dean, and Nevill more parts. Overall, I really liked this film, Alfonso did a very good job and is by far better than Chris Columbus.:sohappy:

 

[imagineer99]

Alfonso wanted to change a lot more than he did. Rowling eventually stopped him.

Did anyone else notice the NUMEROUS miscongrunity's between this movie and previous installments?

For instance, the grounds of Hogwarts were completley different. Hagrid's Hut was in a brand new location.

The architecture of Hogwarts had changed slightly (including the addition of a cool looking clocktower that Curanzo just loved to fly through during his CG shots).

It was a fun movie, but it surely wasn't a classic.

 

[Pippa]

I heard the location of the filming of Hogwarts changed to Glencoe in Scotland, and I thought I saw Sir Cadogan in the background what a shame he didn't get his scenes as he was played by Paul Whitehouse, a great comic talent and good friends in real life with Mark Williams (Arthur Weasley). This was according to the imdb website.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I think you are blowing this a little out of proportion. They clearly explained that Lupin, Wormtail, and James Potter were friends in the past. The only connection they didn't make is what each character's nickname is, and the reason they didn't is because they would have had to introduce Moody, who is not in the film--he is in the next movie. Introducing him without showing him would have been confusing, so they left that for the next movie to explain better. I felt the set changes were phenomenal...the backgrounds were absolutely beautiful with the mountains behind Hagrid's. I thought the music was fantastic too...best movie I've seen in awhile, and I wanna see it again! I wish Alfonso were directing Goblet of Fire next year...maybe he'll come back for Order of the Phoenix in 2007! ~crosses fingers~

 

[ToTBellHop]

By the way, for those of you who like the books, Year 6, reportedly Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch will hopefully be out sometime next year!

 

[imagineer99]

Originally posted by ISTCNavigator57
I think you are blowing this a little out of proportion. They clearly explained that Lupin, Wormtail, and James Potter were friends in the past. The only connection they didn't make is what each character's nickname is, and the reason they didn't is because they would have had to introduce Moody, who is not in the film--he is in the next movie. Introducing him without showing him would have been confusing, so they left that for the next movie to explain better.

You are incorrect. Mad-eye Moody has nothing to do with the Map. I think you are confusing him with Mr. Mooney (aka Lupin).

 

[garyhoov]

We were talking about this last night, and I was thinking the explanations of some of those details came in the fourth and fifth (rather than third) books.

I don't remember for sure, but even if they were inluded in the third book, I don't have a problem with them being omitted. Anyone who wants all the nuances can read the books. Likewise, anyone who doesn't like the film interpretations doesn't need to see them.

 

[tigsmom]

Originally posted by imagineer99
You are incorrect. Mad-eye Moody has nothing to do with the Map. I think you are confusing him with Mr. Mooney (aka Lupin).

Lupin helped make the map, but Moody knows how to work it. I think thats the connection. My youngest is re reading (and listening to the tapes) so we've been thru this the last few weeks. Can't wait for the 19th so I can finally see it.

 

[imagineer99]

Originally posted by tigsmom
Lupin helped make the map, but Moody knows how to work it. I think thats the connection. My youngest is re reading (and listening to the tapes) so we've been thru this the last few weeks. Can't wait for the 19th so I can finally see it.

*BOOK SPOILERS DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE YET TO READ THE BOOKS*

Moody does not know anything about the map. Harry has it to explain the entire thing to Moody (Moody's imposter, Bartimus Crouch). The conncetion between the map and Harry's father, Lupin, Pettigrew, and Black is completely divuldged in Book three.

Read the chapter titled the "Egg and the Eye" in book four. This further proves that Mad-Eye Moody has nothing to do with the map at all.
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My biggest objection to the movies is as follows: They don't stand alone without the aid of the books (although the third movie has done the best job thus far).

People see the movies and think that they are direct reflections of the novels. This is just not true.

 

[ToTBellHop]

whatever..the movies should not be identical to the books. That would not be any fun for the people who have read the books. Furthermore, the movies certainly do stand alone, as a lot of the viewers of the movies have certainly not read the books, and they know exactly what is going on. I very clearly saw in the movie that Wormtail, Lupin, James, and Sirius were friends as children, so the only extension they didn't make is what their nicknames are, which isn't that big of a deal to me. They suggested that Lupin knew what the map was and how to work it, though. The director did not want to dumb everything down to the viewer, as this was not a movie designed for 9 year olds. There are far more complex movies that make story elements even more implicitly-explained and abstract, so that is nothing new. It was Cuaron's artistic interpretation of the books, and I think it worked out fantastically--most viewers agree.

 

[tigsmom]

This may not be a movie designed for 9y/o kids, but mine has read the books numerous time and since we own the movies has seen them numerous times as well. She is looking forward to them all.


Movies are very rarely 100% copies of the books because the medium just does not lend itself to literal adaptation. You would spend days reading a book and all of its intricasies, but a 5 or 6 hour movie? Probably not.

 

[darthdarrel]

Well as someone who has never read the books and never will, I have to say the movies are simply brilliant!

 

[tigsmom]

Originally posted by darthdarrel
Well as someone who has never read the books and never will, I have to say the movies are simply brilliant!

How come you won't read th books? :veryconfu

 

[imagineer99]

Originally posted by darthdarrel
Well as someone who has never read the books and never will, I have to say the movies are simply brilliant!

You are missing out on so much....

 

[darthdarrel]

Originally posted by tigsmom
How come you won't read th books? :veryconfu

For one I don't have much time to read the books and another thing is that when I actually sit down and read a book, the only authors I read are either Anne Rice or Stephan King.

 

[tigsmom]

Darrel, give the book just 5 or 10 minutes, you'll be hooked. The books are so much better than the movies & you already like them. Trade in the vampires for wizards. :wave:

 

[MouseMadness]

It's true, Darrel! (And I don't buy that people haven't got time to read.... :animwink: ) Just like I don't buy people don't have time to exercise... you FIND the time if it matters. Like, if I don't read or get my workout in, I fully own up to the fact that I was here on my behind talking to you guys. :lol:

 

[Dizknee_Phreek]

***Possible movie SPOILER***

Well, I saw it today...i wasn't terribly impressed. the humor was the best part. but i hate change of most any kind, and i think the leap between the 2nd and 3rd movies was just too much for me to swallow. if they had just left the grounds the same, i think it would've been better. and is it just me, or did Hogwarts look really rundown in this one? and i know many of you liked that there was less of the original music, but i really missed it.
i didn't like that they didn't explain the connection of Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs to Lupin, Pettigrew, Black, and Potter. I think they moved through some of the scenes much too fast (like the bit where Scabbers fakes his death and Ron blames Crookshanks). and why didn't they have the part where Sirious 'attacks' Ron while he's sleeping? but the thing that irks me the most...no Oliver Wood!!! it was his last year! i was looking so forward to seeing him again! not to mention, no Quidditch Cup game...*sigh*
I'm not saying they should've put everything from the book into the movie....that would've been incredibly difficult. but they didn't put everything from the 1st and 2nd books into the movies either. i just think there were some parts that could've been a little confusing to those who hadn't read the books yet. they could've left some of the parts from the book out, but still made things make sense (not that they didn't make sense...but, like i said, there were a few parts left unexplained).
anyway, the movie just wasn't at all how i had imagined it whie i was reading the book. it was ok, but just not a classic, as someone else said. oh, and i too thought that last scene was dumb...what a way to end it.
i'm just waiting for the fourth one, though, to see what kind of changes this new director will make. i just wonder if he'll make it more like the first two, or more like the 3rd, or if he'll make it completely different. guess we'll just see.
btw, the best part in the movie wasn't even in the book...where Ron was awoken by a dream about spiders wanting him to tap dance and he told them he didn't want to...when Harry said "You tell them spiders, Ron"...now that WAS classic!

 

[darthdarrel]

Originally posted by tigsmom
Darrel, give the book just 5 or 10 minutes, you'll be hooked. The books are so much better than the movies & you already like them. Trade in the vampires for wizards. :wave:

AND GIVE UP STAR WARS GALAXIES??
....NEVER! :lol: