Where/ when will the Incredibles come into play?

[dopey]

No, you seem to have this issue where you think your opinion should trump the reality of the facts. As I said in my previous post, it's FINE for you to dislike the movie and hold the opinion that it wasn't very good. However, the fact remains... the movie was a success.

Please show me where I wrote that my opinion is more important than yours or anyone else's.

I, and I'm sure others, are very interested in discussing the viability of transforming a classic Disney attraction with characters from "The Incredibles."

In my opinion, this film wasn't terribly exceptional. Must everyone like the same thing? You said there should not be a discussion because the movie did well at the box office and won an Oscar. "Period. End of story," is how you put it.

I thought this board was for discussion.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Indeed! BUT! I think that the WDWMagic forums have their own version of Godwin's Law, only with Stitch's Great Escape as a substitute for Hitler/Naziism. That's another penalty m'fraid.

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I thought that was Eisner...oh wait hes legged it to Bloomburg.

I take it penalties are not a good thing in the former colonies? :drevil:

 

[CoffeeJedi]

I thought that was Eisner...oh wait hes legged it to Bloomburg.

That's a good point. I suppose it depends on context. I've seen both brought up in topics not remotely related to either.

I take it penalties are not a good thing in the former colonies? :drevil:

Yeah, not so much. Us crazy yanks and our wierd armored version of rugby that we call 'football'.

For the record, i really enjoyed The Incredibles (got the widescreen DVD), but that doesn't mean that everyone has to like it. There's plenty of movies that are wildly popular among my friends that i can't stand (Moulan Rouge comes to mind /ducks).
But they don't belong in Tomorrowland, its just another example of the coherent story being chipped away. Especially considering that the movie actually takes place in the PAST, the 'Silver Age' of comic books, late 1960's (its subtle, but its reinforced visually, and even confirmed in the dialogue).

 

[wannab@dis]

Please show me where I wrote that my opinion is more important than yours or anyone else's.

I, and I'm sure others, are very interested in discussing the viability of transforming a classic Disney attraction with characters from "The Incredibles."

In my opinion, this film wasn't terribly exceptional. Must everyone like the same thing? You said there should not be a discussion because the movie did well at the box office and won an Oscar. "Period. End of story," is how you put it.

I thought this board was for discussion.

Maybe you should take a reading course along with those geography lessons.

I said the film was a success... period. end of story. (never said a word about the oscar... somebody else.)

It doesn't mean that you have to like it or that everyone has to like the same thing. It does, however, have a bearing on what was said by two people in this thread... You can hold the opinion that the movie was horrid, but that opinion doesn't change the fact that the movie was a success and that many people liked it. Go to any movie review site -- the scores don't lie -- the majority of the reviewers liked the movie and it made a lot of money. That's fact.

Whether the movie was good or not is opinion.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

But they don't belong in Tomorrowland, its just another example of the coherent story being chipped away. Especially considering that the movie actually takes place in the PAST, the 'Silver Age' of comic books, late 1960's (its subtle, but its reinforced visually, and even confirmed in the dialogue).

Cant we go back to attractions that are original rather than film related?

 

[wannab@dis]

Cant we go back to attractions that are original rather than film related?

Yeah, let's do that. Of course, they'll have to demolish a bunch of the "original" attractions at the parks... oh yeah, along with the Castles at all the parks.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Yeah, let's do that. Of course, they'll have to demolish a bunch of the "original" attractions at the parks... oh yeah, along with the Castles at all the parks.

Yes I loved that movie with Aerosmith, and the one speedway.

I didnt realise Disney had developed castles. Thanks for the history lesson


Oh dear, Im sure theres a circus missing an act

 

[kachow]

Please show me where I wrote that my opinion is more important than yours or anyone else's.

I, and I'm sure others, are very interested in discussing the viability of transforming a classic Disney attraction with characters from "The Incredibles."

In my opinion, this film wasn't terribly exceptional. Must everyone like the same thing? You said there should not be a discussion because the movie did well at the box office and won an Oscar. "Period. End of story," is how you put it.

I thought this board was for discussion.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't understand why you can't see that your personal opinion doesn't really explore this particular topic intelligently. Do you think the guy in charge of the snacks served in the parks would rule out popcorn just because he personally didn't like it? No, he picks what's generally popular. The Incredibles was a box-office success, a critical success, and highly regarded by its peers who vote on the animation academy award. What else does it need to rank among the other films that have been made into attractions? Whether it belongs in Tomorrowland (I say no), or should wipe out CoP (again, no), is another story. But if they found space at The Studios for an Incredibles attraction I would see no reason why it shouldn't be built, and would imagine it would be quite popular.

 

[darthjohnny]

Supposedly there is an rumor about an unwritten rule in the Walt Disney Company, that one of Walt Disney's last requests that CoP would never close. As for The Incredibles, I personally really enjoyed the movie. I did like the retro-super hero atmosphere. It is similar to Fantastic Four, but there are many other copies of super heros. For example, NBC's new show Heros is similar to X-Men. Everyone is running out of new super powers to put in their books/shows/movies. :lol:

I would like a Incredibles ride. But I have heard if CoP does close, it might be a Little Green Men Flying Saucer Ride, much like the ill-fated attraction in Disneyland.

 

[dopey]

Maybe you should take a reading course along with those geography lessons.

I said the film was a success... period. end of story. (never said a word about the oscar... somebody else.)

It doesn't mean that you have to like it or that everyone has to like the same thing. It does, however, have a bearing on what was said by two people in this thread... You can hold the opinion that the movie was horrid, but that opinion doesn't change the fact that the movie was a success and that many people liked it. Go to any movie review site -- the scores don't lie -- the majority of the reviewers liked the movie and it made a lot of money. That's fact.

Whether the movie was good or not is opinion.

Obviously you're not man enough to either back up your claim that I said my opinion trumped everyone else's or admit you were wrong. Resorting to name-calling says more about you than it does about me. Tennessee must be proud.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't understand why you can't see that your personal opinion doesn't really explore this particular topic intelligently. Do you think the guy in charge of the snacks served in the parks would rule out popcorn just because he personally didn't like it? No, he picks what's generally popular. The Incredibles was a box-office success, a critical success, and highly regarded by its peers who vote on the animation academy award. What else does it need to rank among the other films that have been made into attractions? Whether it belongs in Tomorrowland (I say no), or should wipe out CoP (again, no), is another story. But if they found space at The Studios for an Incredibles attraction I would see no reason why it shouldn't be built, and would imagine it would be quite popular.

What I apparently don't have the intelligence to understand -- besides reading and geography -- is why some people think that popular automatically equals good. That's why Pumbas Nakasak mentioned Hitler, Britney and so forth in the first place. You see, they were popular, too. But not good. Unfortunately, some people didn't understand that either.

A civil discussion on this topic is clearly beyond the realm of possibility, so it's best to not waste time trying to reason with the unreasonable.

 

[the-reason14]

To me, while the incredibles was a great film, it just doesnt have that rewatchability(is that even a word , now it is ) factor, that magic factor that alot of the tradational drawn disney animated films have. I mean, all of the pixar films to me, arent really, "magical", is it kinda making sense what Im saying? I mean there are no identifiable songs that help us understand and appreciate the character and the story as a whole anymore, so by saying that, I also think the nemo musical, and nemo's undersea adventure with the songs in these, its almost like, where did they come from. If it were like The Lion King, or Beauty and the Beast they would obviously use the wonderfully composed songs into the attraction, and more people would be able to identify with them because they werent made up on the spot, they were in the film.

Now dont get me wrong, Im not against pixar or pixar related attractions in the future. In fact, the incredibles can be a fantastic interactive type thrill ride that would be great for the studious.(IMO) But as far as cg animation vs what tradationally drawn animation use to be, it seems there is a big difference and lack of the direction animation was intended for from the beginning. I dont know, lemme just shut up now, sorry for the long a<> post, and if you've read it this far then congrads you're now a survivor, lol.

 

[wannab@dis]

Obviously you're not man enough to either back up your claim that I said my opinion trumped everyone else's or admit you were wrong. Resorting to name-calling says more about you than it does about me. Tennessee must be proud.

What I apparently don't have the intelligence to understand -- besides reading and geography -- is why some people think that popular automatically equals good. That's why Pumbas Nakasak mentioned Hitler, Britney and so forth in the first place. You see, they were popular, too. But not good. Unfortunately, some people didn't understand that either.

A civil discussion on this topic is clearly beyond the realm of possibility, so it's best to not waste time trying to reason with the unreasonable.

You should really go back and read your posts... I believe you have contributed to the 'unreasonable' more than anyone else. The lack of civility was first introduced by you and Pumbas.

As for your opinion trumping everyone else's... it doesn't. By saying it doesn't matter what everyone else thinks, nor does it matter if the movie was successful, just because you said it's bad, then it must be so. You said it, so it must be a fact.

Apparently, you have a problem accepting reality. I'm sorry you feel the need to troll along, but if you want to share your opinion of the movie, please do so. But if you think that opinion somehow can be accepted as truth, you are sorely mistaken.

Funny thing... other Pixar and Disney movies were better in my opinion, but weren't as successful. Interesting, huh?

Have a magical day! :wave:

 

[wannab@dis]

To me, while the incredibles was a great film, it just doesnt have that rewatchability(is that even a word , now it is ) factor, that magic factor that alot of the tradational drawn disney animated films have. I mean, all of the pixar films to me, arent really, "magical", is it kinda making sense what Im saying? I mean there are no identifiable songs that help us understand and appreciate the character and the story as a whole anymore, so by saying that, I also think the nemo musical, and nemo's undersea adventure with the songs in these, its almost like, where did they come from. If it were like The Lion King, or Beauty and the Beast they would obviously use the wonderfully composed songs into the attraction, and more people would be able to identify with them because they werent made up on the spot, they were in the film.

Now dont get me wrong, Im not against pixar or pixar related attractions in the future. In fact, the incredibles can be a fantastic interactive type thrill ride that would be great for the studious.(IMO) But as far as cg animation vs what tradationally drawn animation use to be, it seems there is a big difference and lack of the direction animation was intended for from the beginning. I dont know, lemme just shut up now, sorry for the long a<> post, and if you've read it this far then congrads you're now a survivor, lol.

I'm a survivor.

I can't say that I agree that the method of animation has an affect on the "heart" of the movie. I think that's more in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I find some of the Pixar movies more "magical" and with better character portrayal than some of the traditional animated movies. It's all about the story.

Something else to think about... Some of the Broadway "interpretations" of the animated classics from Disney introduced new musical numbers. By most accounts, they were a huge success and well received. Therefore, it's entirely possible that musical numbers for the new Pixar attractions will be very popular. Of course, we won't know until we experience them first hand.

 

[Austin1]

I just wish we could get back to original attractions that aren't movie based. I just wish they would let me take over, the first thing I would do is revamp Tomorrowland.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

The lack of civility was first introduced by you and Pumbas.

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In your opinion? Obviously in Dis land name calling and general digging is ok but comparisons seem to be verboten.

Its a funny old game.

Still Im off to visit Poland. Its meant to be a good time to catch dobbers.

 

[kachow]

Obviously you're not man enough to either back up your claim that I said my opinion trumped everyone else's or admit you were wrong. Resorting to name-calling says more about you than it does about me. Tennessee must be proud.



What I apparently don't have the intelligence to understand -- besides reading and geography -- is why some people think that popular automatically equals good. That's why Pumbas Nakasak mentioned Hitler, Britney and so forth in the first place. You see, they were popular, too. But not good. Unfortunately, some people didn't understand that either.

A civil discussion on this topic is clearly beyond the realm of possibility, so it's best to not waste time trying to reason with the unreasonable.

"Good," is an opinion. You can't prove it on a personal level. Despite billions of people liking chocolate, that won't make someone who doesn't suddenly change their mind. But when deciding whether to serve chocolate ice cream in the parks, you're going to look at the mass reaction to it, not whether you personally like it or not. Yes, if chocolate starts killing everybody like Hitler we'll label it definitively "not good," but until that time there is no way to say it's unquestionably good or bad, just that it's popular.

So a reaction to this topic of, "No, The Incredibles shouldn't be made into an attraction because it's a bad movie," is really pretty silly, because it can't be proven. All there is to go on is popularity and general audience reception. To ignore that and base a decision on one's personal opinion IS, as others have argued, asserting that the opinions of audiences, critics, and movie industry peers, should all be trumped by yours. That's how business leaders make bad business decisions.

 

[wannab@dis]

In your opinion? Obviously in Dis land name calling and general digging is ok but comparisons seem to be verboten.

Its a funny old game.

Still Im off to visit Poland. Its meant to be a good time to catch dobbers.

Where is this name calling? You and Dopey both have made accusations, but it's nowhere to be found. Try again.

 

[Chux]

I'm going to use some "I" statements, so that I don't get railed on.

I love The Incredibles.
I love comic books.
I understand that they were Fantastic Four Lite.
I have a lot of their merchandise, from pins, to figures, soundtrack and a baseball jersey.
I have a picture of me with them.
I would love to see a Spiderman technology-type ride with them in it.(As mentioned before)

How's that?

 

[Lee]

Supposedly there is an rumor about an unwritten rule in the Walt Disney Company, that one of Walt Disney's last requests that CoP would never close.

Apparently an urban legend.
No evidence of that has ever been produced. I suspect it's a CoP fan's greatest wish...but not actually true.

 

[captainbuzzy]

Incredibles was a good movie, but I'm not drawn to the characters enought to see an attraction based on it. I could see a cars overlay on the Tomorrowland speedway beofre I could see this.