When is it "too friendly"? Ladies, what do you say?

aristo_cat

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I'd like some input from the fellow gals on WDW Magic about this curious situation.

My friend and I went to Epcot on July 3rd and we stopped by the Morocco beverage stand (can't say I know the exact name of it right now) and there were two young men running the booth and one of them was being very inappropriate with my friend. I struggle over whether he was being serious or actually "trolling" because he was so heavy handed with his delivery. At one point he told my friend she looked too young to order alcohol and asked her what her "secret" was. Fine.

But...then he insisted on knowing how long we were in town and when we were planning on leaving. All of this before he even moved to serve her her beer. We said we were from around and leaving that very day and he kept saying "tonight? tonight?" and implying he wanted to meet up with us later on at some point. My friend kept asking him for her beverage (now we are here about 10-15 minutes longer than we need to be) and when he finally poured it he took another two minutes peeling the label from the bottle and affixing it to her glass as he asked more personal questions. My friend, getting annoyed, insisted that she have her beverage and told him this was now crossing the line into "bad service". His counterpart by the way was steering clear of the situation, he was actually watching with a worried smile. The guy would not let go of the drink as she was trying to take it from his hand. When he finally relinquished it we happily walked off but you could hear him keep asking when we were leaving and then he started to laugh in what I would describe as a "menacing" tone.

Being flirtatious is fine, it's welcome in most cases. But something about this interaction left us both feeling a little weird. He was being very forward and his demeanor was rather unsettling. The fact that his partner was not getting involved and simply looked over at me with a confused look on his face is telling that this guy is always doing this sort of thing. I debated telling someone in management but I decided to let it go because maybe something got lost in translation.

Has anyone ever experienced park employees trying to get them to meet with them after hours or being just a little too "friendly"?
 

aristo_cat

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Thanks for saying that! I was torn over whether we were just being overly sensitive. I don't like to assume every man who talks to me is flirting with me, sometimes people are just being nice and we do live in a society where politeness is becoming so very rare that it is easily cheapened.

But I really wish I could more accurately describe the way he did all of this. I feel like if he was delivering it differently, it may have been less uncomfortable but he was very "it rubs the lotion on it's skin" about it! My friend was having her birthday so she had her pin on with her name on it and I think he uses that to start conversations going. I didn't mention it to anyone because like I said, I didn't really know what to make of it because maybe he just wanted to cheer my friend and culturally things can get lost in translation. However he was very careful not to come out and say "meet with me" and left it only at implying it. Which yes, it concerns me that he's preying on women and it could be he's been successful at it.
 

Todd L

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As the husband of a pretty wife and A father of a pretty young lady this type of behavior makes me SOOOOOOO angry!! They have both had these type of incidents in their lifes and It really frustrating and a little scary.

I do freelance music work and play pretty regularly on the weekends My Wife decided to stop coming to gigs do to these kinda situations....REPORT HIM IMMEDIATLEY ..before he takes this even further with someone else!!

Big difference between an innocent flirtation and a Guy who apparently cant take No for an answer!!
 

Zman-ks

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I would have reported it. Inappropriate behavior...period.
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Exactly.
 

aristo_cat

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This is definitely not right and I definitely would have complained since he is probably still doing this to young girls right now and who knows, he might just get his way and ruin someones life :(

If he was from Morocco then it is probably normal for him back home since rape and sexual assault is pretty common in Africa/Middle East as women are considered to be almost subhuman.

I'm cautious about pigeon-holing him for his nationality. I'm Mexican and in the Mexico pavilion I've had many a flirtatious encounter with men from that region and men from Mexico are usually very heavy handed with the flirtations. However, this is exactly why I didn't report it. I feel like maybe to them it is culturally acceptable but not to me. It's just a transnational thing. We also have a great deal of problems in the U.S with rape and sexual assault. I think I want to be certain to convey that if the gentleman had been in the American pavilion or any other pavilion and all other factors remained equal, I would have been just as disturbed.
 

aristo_cat

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3 of my friends have married, and since divorced guys from the Morocco pavilion. Don't get me started.

Edit: I would have reported it immediately.

Really? Do they work there? And are they all redheads with blue eyes? I feel like every time I go to Epcot with this friend she gets hit on by only the guys in the Morocco pavilion and I think it has something to do with the fact that she looks very different from what those men usually encounter in their region. But it has never been this creepy before.
 

DznyGrlSD

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Yes
1 is my BFF who's a former castmember; 2 is her BFF and 3 is my former Disney college program roommate. Not to stereotype, but to stereotype - they all got divorced shortly after their Moroccan husbands became US Citizens.
 

Minthorne

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Glad to hear that some gentlemen find it disturbing as well! Well, except for the one who wants the caramel apple wench to hit on him. Ah the double standard. :rolleyes:


I'm not sure he meant a wench. He said he wanted a blond. I think without the 'e' it means a guy right?
 

aristo_cat

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I'm not sure he meant a wench. He said he wanted a blond. I think without the 'e' it means a guy right?

He didn't say wench. I said wench! That's what a friend of mine calls them. He says they are "evil caramel apple wenches" because he always ends up over there buying apples and getting his heart broken.

And yes you are right about that distinction. Perhaps I have jumped to a conclusion!
 

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