the.dreamfinder
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What's with the wait times!? (hint.. they're low)
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Rich T
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Could be worse, could be better, could be Six Flags someday. Fans and People Who Just Care should just keep making their voices (politely) heard and vote with their wallets and turnstyle counts. It's all we can do.I think that would have the complete opposite effect. I highly doubt WDC would be spending a billion dollars on a single land, not to mention the billions in all the other parks if it was in the hands of a few people. I know on some places on the internet everything Disney is doing with the DLR are the end of days, but they have pumped literally billions of dollars into it in just the last 10 years. We gotten two massive lands, CL and now GE, not to mention quite a few E and D tickets, big shows like WOC and a huge upkeep of the park, with constant mini updates and changes. I know some people don't like some of the results but there is zero guarantee it would be different with anyone else, especially they are told changes increases revenue.
For all you know, they may just decide to build a bunch of hotels and nothing more. Or throw in Walmart type stores in the parks. Seriously it could be a lot, lot worse. Someone may even decide Lincoln is a total waste of operational money and turn it into a McDonald's restaurant. At least it will get people inside for a change.
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
Disney Irish
Premium Member
You're living in fantasy land (not to be confused with FantasyLand). Especially on the no in-fighting....It needs to be become a well-run family park... With the family being a group of highly intelligent, imaginative, motivated people who know Disney history and care so much about Disneyland that they' be willing to live modestly for the rest of their lives, always putting the park's benefit ahead of personal financial gain. They'd know where to cut corners (hint: Exec perks, Exec salaries, and Imagineering "research" B.S.) and where to NEVER cut corners in keeping the park healthy and exciting.
Our... er... I mean *their* goals: Happy Cast, Happy Guests, Happy Park.
This group of highly intelligent, imaginative, motivated people would always agree 100% on everything. Not one argument about new attractions and changes at all. No Sir. Perfect harmony.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Four score, would you like fries with that?I think that would have the complete opposite effect. I highly doubt WDC would be spending a billion dollars on a single land, not to mention the billions in all the other parks if it was in the hands of a few people. I know on some places on the internet everything Disney is doing with the DLR are the end of days, but they have pumped literally billions of dollars into it in just the last 10 years. We gotten two massive lands, CL and now GE, not to mention quite a few E and D tickets, big shows like WOC and a huge upkeep of the park, with constant mini updates and changes. I know some people don't like some of the results but there is zero guarantee it would be different with anyone else, especially they are told changes increases revenue.
For all you know, they may just decide to build a bunch of hotels and nothing more. Or throw in Walmart type stores in the parks. Seriously it could be a lot, lot worse. Someone may even decide Lincoln is a total waste of operational money and turn it into a McDonald's restaurant. At least it will get people inside for a change.
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
- In the Parks
- No
Well I'm not saying prices are to blame, but if I could afford a trip to DL after our WDW trip a few months ago.. I'd be there.
TP2000
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Evenings really seem to be the best time to be in the parks. Approaching the dinner hour, the afternoon's low wait times have collapsed into the single digits for almost all E Tickets.
Matterhorn and Hyperspace Mountain and Indy and Guardians and Splash Mountain are all 15 minutes now. Soarin' and Thunder Mountain and Star Tours and Submarines are 10 minutes, the rest of the E Tickets are 5 minute walk-ons. Except for the Millennium Falcon and Radiator Racers, which are both 45 minutes. Most of the rest of the C and D Tickets are all 5 minutes, and Disneyland is open for another six hours.
Truly amazing.
Matterhorn and Hyperspace Mountain and Indy and Guardians and Splash Mountain are all 15 minutes now. Soarin' and Thunder Mountain and Star Tours and Submarines are 10 minutes, the rest of the E Tickets are 5 minute walk-ons. Except for the Millennium Falcon and Radiator Racers, which are both 45 minutes. Most of the rest of the C and D Tickets are all 5 minutes, and Disneyland is open for another six hours.
Truly amazing.
Curious Constance
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With bearable temperatures too. No fair.
I could have gone to Disneyland one day last week, but I didn’t want to shell out the $450-$600 for me and my kids to go the one day especially since I was banking on it being a madhouse. We could have had such a good time with wait times like this though!
I could have gone to Disneyland one day last week, but I didn’t want to shell out the $450-$600 for me and my kids to go the one day especially since I was banking on it being a madhouse. We could have had such a good time with wait times like this though!
BubbaQuest
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It's definitely too early to tell, but it must be a little troubling to Disney that investing heavily in one of Disney's largest IPs isn't enough to bring in *new* visitors to Disneyland. People have hinted about this for awhile, but has Disney priced out (or crowded out) the casual visitor to Disneyland because of AP overuse?
It could be too many local news warnings about required reservations or casual visitors waiting for WDW, but as an ex-long term AP holder, the reviews I'm reading aren't enough to make me want to go back. The lack of crowds on the other hand....
It could be too many local news warnings about required reservations or casual visitors waiting for WDW, but as an ex-long term AP holder, the reviews I'm reading aren't enough to make me want to go back. The lack of crowds on the other hand....
Animaniac93-98
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It's times like this I wish I had the luxury of being able to drop everything and get my Ahora! over to Disneyland now to enjoy an evening like this.
Kram Sacul
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- In the Parks
- Yes
Star Wars is dead. Time to buy a new franchise and milk the hell out of it.
mickEblu
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Well there’s always Avatar
shambolicdefending
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At this point there's no way to dismiss the obvious. People are just not as excited about Star Wars at Disneyland as we were all led to believe.
You can blame the blackouts, the pricing, the fear of crowds, etc. But all that boils down to the basic fact that anybody could be choosing to go to Disneyland right now, and almost nobody actually is.
The suits have a real problem on their hands.
You can blame the blackouts, the pricing, the fear of crowds, etc. But all that boils down to the basic fact that anybody could be choosing to go to Disneyland right now, and almost nobody actually is.
The suits have a real problem on their hands.
The problem is that it's summer, and Disneyland is a September-April locals park now. I've had six friends of mine say that they're waiting to go in September when their passes open up when I asked about going this Saturday because of the short lines.
The AP sales have completely flipped the seasons. The extra 5-6000 capacity has spread people out even further, but come September when the APs descend upon the park people are gonna be missing the lighter summer crowds.
The AP sales have completely flipped the seasons. The extra 5-6000 capacity has spread people out even further, but come September when the APs descend upon the park people are gonna be missing the lighter summer crowds.
Animaniac93-98
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Time to shoehorn Batman into Disneyland!
I'll add that I think the lastest price hike for the AP with no blockouts finally did its job - most of my AP friends who had that pass downgraded to Deluxe or lower which resulted in a blocked out summer. Now the park just needs to get non-locals to increase their summer visits again. The Flex pass may help balance this out in the future if reserved days in the summer are fairly easy to come by, as they seem to be right now.
shambolicdefending
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Disneyland's pricing strategy is so lopsided in favor of locals, and I suspect a lot of non-locals (or at least non-APs) have been totally turned off by the AP crowd crushes of recent years combined with high daily ticket prices.
It may take a long time to bring the ticketed guests back in significant numbers, and management may decide it's not worth it in the long run.
They'd be smart to *decrease* the single day tickets in the coming weeks for the reasons you bring up. Lower it by $10-15 after the 4th of July weekend through mid-August and see if it brings in those non-AP locals that have felt pushed away by the single day prices and AP crowd.
RobWDW1971
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That's what makes the situation fascinating - having to give discounts to attract more attendance while simultaneously convincing people it's not as miserably crowded as the last time they came. ROTR can't open soon enough.
George Lucas on a Bench
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The Chinese restaurant across the street seems to think that bootlegish versions of the Warner Brothers Looney Tunes characters appear at Disney.