JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
That is not a vacation I’d want to take. Not even for half price and CAD at par.
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What's Still On and What's Now Off
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Depends. Greatly reducing the number of people in the park...So very low wait times.
In exchange, wear masks, get your temp checked, and forced to wash your hands a lot.
I think there are plenty who would make that trade.
You can re-program... no pin needed. No pin when using Apple Pay — you only touch your own phone, don’t need to touch an external device.
Many people rarely/never use cash as things stand.
Getting rid of biometrics is easy — they are relatively new. You used to just swipe your ticket, they didn’t check IDs.
And even recently at DHS, they stopped using biometrics to get the ROTR crowd quickly into park in the morning. They were just swiping magic bands and foregoing fingerprints.
So what’s been happening at DHS, you now do at all parks.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
If they reduce the number of available attractions by 50%, it will still be wall to wall people ... wearing masks in 90 degree temps with 90% humidity.
Just check me with a meat thermometer.
You need a better imagination. Virtual queues dont have to use ROTR as the model. Can let guests book them in advance like FP... or done at resort for resort guests. Or lots of other methods so you can do it, with guests spread out.
I’m thinking 90% of the attractions with 50% of the guests... the whole point is to thin the crowd.
how do glasses stay on?!?! Much easier to keep a mask on.
yes, guy coughs — into his own mask. That’s the point.
that’s why theme parks are starting to re-open in China ———— with mask requirements.
That’s why Japan and S Korea have the virus pretty well contained — masks.
That’s why the CDC is poised to start recommending mask wearing.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
No offence, but there’s no way 90% of the attractions can open under any scenario that includes even an iota of social distancing.
I admire your optimism, I really do; but life won’t be returning to even a semblance of normalcy any time soon.
I’m probably one of the biggest Pixie Dusters here, and I’m already emotionally disconnected from our upcoming annual trip. The only thing I haven’t done is officially cancel it yet.
Club Cooloholic
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Again, the mask can fall off and considering Disney couldn't get smokers to stay in designated smoking areas, to think guests will follow the strict rules is more than hopeful, especially considering the type of people that would be willing to rush to an amusement park during all this.
Let's see how those park openings go in China, I don't trust too much of the info on their recovery. FYI...in China there are police patroling public squares with assault rifles(that's during normal non pandemic times) in their arms... people there thus tend to follow what the government says....thankfully we don't live in that sort of environment in the United States.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
17 years is new?
In california they scan your ticket and take your photo, that is contactless but I think it’s an entirely different system, you can’t just change it without significant cost.
No they didn’t “stop using biometrics at dhs” - they sometimes choose not to use them based on crowding but they have to be careful, especially with Rise cause people could just walk out and scan back in with someone else’s ticket and get multiple reservations.
0% of rides can operate under current social distancing recommendations. But at some point, the current social distancing won’t be in effect. And it won’t be “normal.” There will be a period of Middle ground measures.
you just confirmed what I said — they sometimes skip the biometrics at DHS.
A little bit of people gaming the system, they’d trade off for the extra health safety.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Okay, you’ve convinced me.
You and me are on the same boat about wondering if it'll be worth it (for us), to visit the parks soon after they reopen. Pretty sure that the changes will be very noticeable at the beginning, but I'm hopeful that in time, procedures and capacities would be tweaked. I'm not so sure if things will ever be the way they were, before this crisis.
A deal breaker for us, would be if EPCOT is closed during the time we're planning to visit. I hope we learn more about what to expect as soon as it is possible. Only then, will we be able to decide if the new conditions are worth it for us.
I'm finally beginning to disconnect from our upcoming WDW visit too... and just like you, all that is left for us to do is, officially cancel.
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I had biometrics skipped one afternoon at EPCOT's IG. It was after the skyliner was down for a while and then dumped crowds with the crescent lake resort early evening push. Long lines. It's a good way to move people through faster but I was still surprised.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
When is your trip?
We go every year. We’ll go again.
We were there for Katrina, and more recently Irma and Dorian. THIS is different.
Best case scenario, this turns out to be a modern day polio ... totally eradicated by a safe, effective, and potent vaccine; and life can slowly return to normal. Sadly, I don’t see that happening by this summer.
I’d love to be wrong.
Jon81uk
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The mask is likely to make things worse not better, every time you touch your face to adjust or take the mask on and off you will be potentially bringing the virus into your body via your eyes/nose/mouth. Standard surgical masks are also designed to stop people infecting others from spit droplets, if you are currently infectious then better you don't go to the parks at all. A correctly fitted useful mask is painful to wear all day.
Do face masks work? Medical experts explain how to protect yourself from coronavirus
The WHO has declared the outbreak a global health emergency, with almost 60 countries reporting cases of the coronavirus.
Handwashing regularly and after touching things is vital.
ImperfectPixie
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I saw some pictures of doctors and nurses after wearing goggles and masks all day treating COVID-19 patients...this goes beyond just painful...their faces were bruised.The mask is likely to make things worse not better, every time you touch your face to adjust or take the mask on and off you will be potentially bringing the virus into your body via your eyes/nose/mouth. Standard surgical masks are also designed to stop people infecting others from spit droplets, if you are currently infectious then better you don't go to the parks at all. A correctly fitted useful mask is painful to wear all day.
Do face masks work? Medical experts explain how to protect yourself from coronavirus
The WHO has declared the outbreak a global health emergency, with almost 60 countries reporting cases of the coronavirus.www.cnbc.com
Handwashing regularly and after touching things is vital.
ImperfectPixie
Well-Known Member
I've been saying basically the same thing. BUT...you can be asymptomatic and spread infection...which leads me to think (and I could be totally wrong) that everyone wearing masks at places with lots of people would be better than none.The mask is likely to make things worse not better, every time you touch your face to adjust or take the mask on and off you will be potentially bringing the virus into your body via your eyes/nose/mouth. Standard surgical masks are also designed to stop people infecting others from spit droplets, if you are currently infectious then better you don't go to the parks at all. A correctly fitted useful mask is painful to wear all day.
Do face masks work? Medical experts explain how to protect yourself from coronavirus
The WHO has declared the outbreak a global health emergency, with almost 60 countries reporting cases of the coronavirus.
Handwashing regularly and after touching things is vital.
The mask is likely to make things worse not better, every time you touch your face to adjust or take the mask on and off you will be potentially bringing the virus into your body via your eyes/nose/mouth. Standard surgical masks are also designed to stop people infecting others from spit droplets, if you are currently infectious then better you don't go to the parks at all. A correctly fitted useful mask is painful to wear all day.
Do face masks work? Medical experts explain how to protect yourself from coronavirus
The WHO has declared the outbreak a global health emergency, with almost 60 countries reporting cases of the coronavirus.
Handwashing regularly and after touching things is vital.
Mask wearing is why the disease is under control in Japan.
In fact, you can do a direct comparison of countries using masks and those that aren’t. The disease spread is MUCH worse in non-mask countries.