DfromATX
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That answers my earlier question lol! I wasn't sure if our international friends were able to travel here yet. I think that's obviously one of the main reasons for the low crowds.
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What's deflated your WDW enthusiasm the most: Pandemic or Genie+
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Goofyernmost
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I'll take your word for it, but from an outsiders perspective, I haven't seen much progress in making things better. I'll keep my fingers crossed. We in NC thought we had hit our peak as well, we were wrong, just not as wrong as some of the states.
DfromATX
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We have a lot of hard-headed people here. (I'll leave it at that.) At least in my county, the numbers are improving. I just got an alert that we are "within the threshold to move to stage 3." We were in stage 5 not that long ago.
Goofyernmost
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To be fair Texas might be a tad more vocal, but it is everywhere. I'm afraid that I usually can see both sides of any situation but frankly, the behavior of so many of U.S. citizens defies any explanation. I just hope it all goes away soon.
Tomi-Rocket
Well-Known Member
Neither. For me it’s my belief that Disney is establishing themselves as a luxury vacation destination and with that the cost of literally everything going up constantly. 
My feelings exactly.
Disney will be just fine for now so dont worry about them. When Slappie gave the earnings statement just a little while ago the Parks Division was already back in the Black. Which means if you dont know making money. This was prior to Genie+ announcement.The two have properly netted themselves out for me - the pandemic has delayed trips and made me desperate to just get out there so much so that I'll put up with the nickel and diming that is going on right now - which I'm sure is one of the things Disney is banking on at the moment.
I really have no problem with the Reservation system. Now I would if it was telling me I could not get into MK during my entire trip. I can see the value in knowing where people will be for staffing concerns, its just what Disney thinks it needs in staffing isnt what is actually needed in most cases.
BeentoallDParks
Active Member
There are so many things that told me the current Disney management doesn’t value tradition and heritage and what makes Disney so special. But Epcot’s merchandise is what really drove it all home for me. It used to be a place where you could find such interesting gifts. Now it’s just t-shirts, t-shirts, t-shirts. The specialness has been drained out. Once I saw that, I started seeing similar betrayals everywhere in how things are run.
heapster411
Well-Known Member
For me, every time you turn around, something else is costing more money. First overnight parking at a resort, next charging for Fastpass(Genie +), and now if you look up dining, @MK they have a pre-fireworks party, Fireworks party AND an After-fireworks party! All separate ticket events. Before and after $99 for adults and $59 for children 3-9, and during $114 for adults and $69 for children 3-9. When does madness stop?
THECARISMINE
Active Member
Headed down in December to see for myself how I feel about all these new changes made to the overall experience but I have to say the Genie+ stuff was what finally killed the magic for me. Then those live streams this week rubbed dirt in the wound. I can't justify the price for the experiences being offered to other people, How am I going to fairly justifying it to myself? They have purposely removed what made them special and now have finally become the overpriced Six Flags I use to argue they weren't.
erasure fan1
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I'm not sure that is really a mainstream point of view. I don't think anyone wants a museum. All most people want, is that if you replace or update or change something. That it be as good or better than what they had before. Disney doesn't have a great track record with improving, updates and replacements. Couple that with all the nickel and dime upcharges, and of course a lot of people long for an earlier time.Neither for me as well. I'm disappointed in those who want Disneyworld to be a museum..but only at the time period they remember, nothing b fore, nothing afterwards. That's what Disneyland is for
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AdventureHasAName
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Easily Genie+ ... but that's more of a catch-all for basically all of the decisions the upper management has made for the last decade (and continues to make). The company has made it pretty plain that they don't want customers that resemble me. The decline is to big to ignore at this point.
Disney has moved in a direction that does not correspond to the values of my kids and grand kids, the prices have become of questionable value as Genie is just another money grab among all of the others, and basically Disney has sadly lost the magic we enjoyed as a family of three generations
We have moved on and are finding other venues in which to spend our money. We are saddened by the loyalty we gave Disney and they have not shown the same loyalty to us.
We have moved on and are finding other venues in which to spend our money. We are saddened by the loyalty we gave Disney and they have not shown the same loyalty to us.
Chi84
Premium Member
What are they doing that doesn’t correspond to the values of your kids and grandkids?
I feel for the super large families when it comes to this.
