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What would YOU do to improve SGE?
- Thread starter Stitchfan712
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General Grizz
New Member
AgreedCorrus said:
NemoRocks78
Seized
Never meant to start anything.....Corrus said:
Let us return to our regularly scheduled posting....
:lol:
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Corrus said:
Thats a fair comparison, cause i guess Eisners Disney is now creating attractions that equate those Universal built umpteen years ago.
Now that is buisness development.
How about comparing attracations put in over the last 5 - 6 years.
Just one thought............Mission Space....................
ClemsonTigger
Naturally Grumpy
My first choice would be to return to AE3
But if stuck with Stitch (and I personally like Stitch and would have liked to see him in an appropriate unique ride), ya gotta overhaul the whole thing. First remove the cartoons from the message screens. Either do live characters or 3D, but having 2D cartoons just doesn't flow in a 3D attraction.
Second, in the pre-show, the silliness with regard to Level I, II, III has to be changed. Level I is what, being cute?, Level II is being a nusiance with bug eyes and a sinus infection? Robot wetting itself?, please...
In the main show, whole theme and dialog has to be redone. The dark time is just dead time, half the time the lasers are just spinning around and trying to (lock on?) There should be laser light beams, the in seat laser explosions are good. The whole level III prisoner thing is lost once Stitch appears, he doesn't seem to know that he is a prisoner, and his hijincks have no rhyme or reason. Bouncing off the shoulders, what was that...a tigger impression. While different from oranges or pie or fire, I do wish the chili breath is replaced with something else.
As has been said by everyone, make an ending. Possibly you could have Stitch return after a jaunt in the park to invite everyone with him, "C'mon everybody, lets go" then once the door opens, have another anamatronic waving us to join him in the parks.
But if stuck with Stitch (and I personally like Stitch and would have liked to see him in an appropriate unique ride), ya gotta overhaul the whole thing. First remove the cartoons from the message screens. Either do live characters or 3D, but having 2D cartoons just doesn't flow in a 3D attraction.
Second, in the pre-show, the silliness with regard to Level I, II, III has to be changed. Level I is what, being cute?, Level II is being a nusiance with bug eyes and a sinus infection? Robot wetting itself?, please...
In the main show, whole theme and dialog has to be redone. The dark time is just dead time, half the time the lasers are just spinning around and trying to (lock on?) There should be laser light beams, the in seat laser explosions are good. The whole level III prisoner thing is lost once Stitch appears, he doesn't seem to know that he is a prisoner, and his hijincks have no rhyme or reason. Bouncing off the shoulders, what was that...a tigger impression. While different from oranges or pie or fire, I do wish the chili breath is replaced with something else.
As has been said by everyone, make an ending. Possibly you could have Stitch return after a jaunt in the park to invite everyone with him, "C'mon everybody, lets go" then once the door opens, have another anamatronic waving us to join him in the parks.
I'd like to see the added use of 3d technology. Stitch would appear in the tube, laser cannons and all. Then, the lights go out, and using 3d projectors becomes more interactive more directly with you. This would be a first use of it's kind for a 360* 3D Projection.
The glasses could be easily explaned as "saftey glasses" and just think of the storyline that could be told.
The glasses could be easily explaned as "saftey glasses" and just think of the storyline that could be told.
Legacy
Well-Known Member
Modify the story line to fit the cartoon more. Bring in Lilo and have the story being Stitch (along with Lilo) trying to escape from Gantu's clutches. Drop the SIR wannabe and bring back a darker character that fits more of a bad guy role to work for Gantu (Or, make a Lilo or Pleakly animatronic). They are trying to bust out Stitch and they need our help. Make Gantu the bad guy, actually give the guests a viable role and allow the attraction to END rather than stop.
(I know it's a stretch, but Imagineering could make something like that work. I just have a problem seeing Stitch without Lilo.)
(I know it's a stretch, but Imagineering could make something like that work. I just have a problem seeing Stitch without Lilo.)
dxwwf3
Well-Known Member
Legacy said:
That is the reason I was skeptical about this attraction from the start. I can see kids asking their parents "Where's Lilo?" And for good reason. Adventureland would have been a better fit and we all know that. But what's done, is done so hopefully they can make the best of it.
With these responses, I am afraid this attraction will never satisfy anyone, in any form. Even with a rescript, it just won't.
There's too many conflicting ideas of what the ride should be. Dark, light, silly, serious, live, animated...etc etc etc.
How can disney ever satisfy this? I don't think they can.
There's too many conflicting ideas of what the ride should be. Dark, light, silly, serious, live, animated...etc etc etc.
How can disney ever satisfy this? I don't think they can.
Legacy
Well-Known Member
I feel that utilizing the AE format for Stitch is limiting the potental of the franchise. I would much rather see a dark ride like Pooh or Snow White (specifically those two: Pooh's aeshtetic and Snow White's tone) than a sensory experience. With the great story and characters in the attraction, I ALWAYS thought a dark ride would be a more rewarding experience.
But at least Stitch isn't going the way of Kuzko.
But at least Stitch isn't going the way of Kuzko.
A dark ride......no offense, but the last thing WDW needs is yet another dark ride.
I'm not a fan of them personally though. I find myself utterly bored on dark rides...unless you consider Pirates to be a dark ride, which I don't.
I'm not a fan of them personally though. I find myself utterly bored on dark rides...unless you consider Pirates to be a dark ride, which I don't.
dxwwf3
Well-Known Member
Stitchfan712 said:
That is exactly what I said when I first heard of plans to replace AE with a Stitch attraction that had children's interests in mind. The technology just doesn't seem to work that way. It needs to have darkness to be the most effective. And it's hard to have alot of darkness in a children's attraction.
But let me also say this, if anyone can fix this attraction WDI can. Keep hope alive because they might be able to pull a rabbit out of their hats on this one. I can tell you care about this attraction and it's well being. I sincerely hope that they fix this attraction for your sake and the sake of all Stitch fans. It's just not going to be easy.
Legacy
Well-Known Member
Yep, Pirates is a dark ride.Stitchfan712 said:
Spiderman is a dark ride too.
So you find dark rides boring. Would a dark ride following Stitch be boring to you, or would you enjoy it? The nice things about dark rides is that they focus on the stories and characters over technology. You seem to love Stitch, and not just the character but the story as well. A dark ride is the most effective device for developing those two things (which would make a better attraction).
Lynx04
New Member
I think a Stitch ride using a tamer version of Spiderman would be much better then the use of AE format. Imagine going through a building with Stitch bouncing all over the place knocking things about, really trying to escape, as guests follow him around and watch however they are trying to catch him. I am suprised that other parks have not exploited the Spiderman tech. I wonder if it is because Universal has a patent on the tech.Legacy said:
Legacy
Well-Known Member
Exactly. A Stitch attraction should be active rather than passive (active is high-movement, passive is little movement). AE's technolgy is passive, and that hurts Stitch's character. A dark ride using (relatively) fast vehicles with a lot of movement would be MUCH more Stitch-like and would be a better fit. Set the attaction in Hawaii, have fun looking scenery with a combonation of animatronics and projections. It would be HIGHLY effective, HIGHLY entertaining and actually family-friendly.Lynx04 said:
(I just want to see a life-size Gantu).
Perhaps I am misunderstanding what a "dark ride" is.
I'm under the assumption that "Winnie the Pooh" is the definition of a dark ride....as is the Alice in Wonderland attraction at Fantasyland in DLR. I'm thinking the 2-D painted boards with limited movement that you pass by, most of the entertainment comes from the audio.
I find myself bored on these. They feel cheap.
I'm under the assumption that "Winnie the Pooh" is the definition of a dark ride....as is the Alice in Wonderland attraction at Fantasyland in DLR. I'm thinking the 2-D painted boards with limited movement that you pass by, most of the entertainment comes from the audio.
I find myself bored on these. They feel cheap.
Lynx04
New Member
That is the old dark ride, rides like:Stitchfan712 said:
Spiderman
Dinosaur
Indy @ DLR
Even Mummy (although a hybrid)
These are all next steps in the evolutionary chain of "DarK Rides"
That is why I am disappionted in the WDW Pooh, it didn't employ any new type of experience. Now Pooh in DLT, now that is a well developed darkride.
CoffeeJedi
Active Member
i've always considered a dark ride to be any ride where the environment is primarily responsible for creating the experience (as opposed to say, a roller coaster, where its the motion of the train). While Indiana Jones certainly has a thrilling ride experience (speed+jerkiness), its really the temple itself and the show elements that make it work. (as opposed to SM or BTMRR where the effects enhance the motion of the roller coaster).Stitchfan712 said:
So PotC and HM are dark rides, Indy primarily is, and ToT, Splash Mtn are good examples of hybrids, BTMRR and Space Mtn are coasters with heavy dark ride influence.
I think you've hit the nail right on the head here, sitting in the dark while Stitch does things TO you just doesn't fit the "feel" of L&S. Can you imagine the Haunted Mansion as a high speed chase? Pirates without the rollicking motion of the boat? Of course not, and that's why sitting in the dark worked great for a hideous alien beast, but NOT a hyperactive ball o' destructive fluff. A better idea for a Stitch attraction (to keep the intergalactic police recruits theme) would have been a frantic chase to simply keep up and try to minimize the damage 626 is creating (if only they would have retrofit Mr. Toad to THAT ride).Legacy said: