What should happen with Leave a Legacy???

[WDWmazprty]

In reference to another thread about Leave a Legacy, I thought it'd be a good time to find out what the concensus is on here. What should be done with it? Keep it? Remove it? if so, replace it with what?

Let us know. :wave:

 

[jakeman]

Where is the option for "It takes me 30 seconds to walk past so I don't really care..."?

 

[flavious27]

Where is the option for "It takes me 30 seconds to walk past so I don't really care..."?

leave it.

 

[SirNim]

Make the entrance plaza warm and dynamic, not cold and static.

 

[flavious27]

Leave a Legacy is just another addition to the park that people can leave a legacy behind, like the paving stones at MK. My only complaint would be that there are some panels that were not made to disney quality and are almost faded away.

 

[s8film40]

Leave a Legacy is just another addition to the park that people can leave a legacy behind, like the paving stones at MK. My only complaint would be that there are some panels that were not made to disney quality and are almost faded away.

I think this is one of the worst parts of the whole thing is that they sell these to people this way, with the idea that it will be there forever. In reality though they are only obligated to leave it for the time period on the contract. These things require ongoing maintenance and at some point it will cost less to replace it than to keep it and they will go away.

 

[flavious27]

I think this is one of the worst parts of the whole thing is that they sell these to people this way, with the idea that it will be there forever. In reality though they are only obligated to leave it for the time period on the contract. These things require ongoing maintenance and at some point it will cost less to replace it than to keep it and they will go away.

who long is the contract for?

The stones will last the test of time, the panels if they made them right would last until the park is flooded over by global warming.

There will be alot of mad guests if they remove the leave a legacy stones completely from the property.

 

[s8film40]

who long is the contract for?

The stones will last the test of time, the panels if they made them right would last until the park is flooded over by global warming.

There will be alot of mad guests if they remove the leave a legacy stones completely from the property.

I believe the contract for leave a legacy is ten years. The panels have already started fading they certainly won't last too much longer as someone else above said some are faded very badly. Part of the contract is that they will replace and repair them throughout the contract as needed if they become damaged, faded, etc. The same is true of the bricks, I used to talk with the person who was responsible for maintaining the bricks. He would go out every night and touch up any that were damaged faded or needed to be replaced completely. His position was eliminated and he told me that they would be removed but they haven't yet. To the best of my knowledge they are no longer being maintained though. At some point these things will go away it's just a matter of time it cost too much to keep them up.

 

[VintageDisFan]

As someone who has both a Leave A Legacy tile and a Walk Around the World stone...and who has kept a copy of both of the contracts so I would know what to expect...I offer this information:

Walk Around the World - Guaranteed for 10 years from the sponsorship date.

Leave A Legacy - Guaranteed for 20 years from the sponsorship date.

So...They can remove it without any liability to me or my family after that time. Considering the cost to sponsor those things, I would have never expected them to be there forever. They were inexpensive to sponsor to begin with, so I think my family and I feel we've gotten our value out of them by now. If they removed them tomorrow, we'd be a little sad, sure...but they've served their purpose.

I'm not a big fan of the monoliths at the entrance to Epcot. I miss the lucite fountain and the open atmosphere of their entrance plaza pre-2000. As for the WAtW bricks, I have seen so many of them trip people walking through the plaza because they aren't level anymore. My friends and I like to say "Who did you trip over this time?" when they stumble...it's almost like a game now.

Anyhow...As someone previously posted...they will go away...it's just a matter of time. Disney will probably wait for the last agreement on them to expire and then try to retire them all.

I just feel bad for the people that answer the angry guest letters when they are removed...i'm sure people have gotten really attached to their stones and plates.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Use the slabs to create tops for lots of new bars in World Showcase

 

[s8film40]

Walk Around the World - Guaranteed for 10 years from the sponsorship date.

Leave A Legacy - Guaranteed for 20 years from the sponsorship date.

I thought this was the other way around, thanks for clarifying.

 

[mickey2008.1]

I voted lave it alone, but what I really think would work for everyone is move them to different parts of future world. Make them landscaping pieces by LWtL and UOE. Use there structure lines to blend in with the current builings and around the lake, but no going into WS. This way people still have there plates and memories, and it opens up the front plaza.

 

[flavious27]

As someone who has both a Leave A Legacy tile and a Walk Around the World stone...and who has kept a copy of both of the contracts so I would know what to expect...I offer this information:

Walk Around the World - Guaranteed for 10 years from the sponsorship date.

Leave A Legacy - Guaranteed for 20 years from the sponsorship date.

So...They can remove it without any liability to me or my family after that time. Considering the cost to sponsor those things, I would have never expected them to be there forever. They were inexpensive to sponsor to begin with, so I think my family and I feel we've gotten our value out of them by now. If they removed them tomorrow, we'd be a little sad, sure...but they've served their purpose.

I'm not a big fan of the monoliths at the entrance to Epcot. I miss the lucite fountain and the open atmosphere of their entrance plaza pre-2000. As for the WAtW bricks, I have seen so many of them trip people walking through the plaza because they aren't level anymore. My friends and I like to say "Who did you trip over this time?" when they stumble...it's almost like a game now.

Anyhow...As someone previously posted...they will go away...it's just a matter of time. Disney will probably wait for the last agreement on them to expire and then try to retire them all.

I just feel bad for the people that answer the angry guest letters when they are removed...i'm sure people have gotten really attached to their stones and plates.

20 years? I wonder when they are going to start to refurb the plates that you can barely tell were used.

 

[flavious27]

I voted lave it alone, but what I really think would work for everyone is move them to different parts of future world. Make them landscaping pieces by LWtL and UOE. Use there structure lines to blend in with the current builings and around the lake, but no going into WS. This way people still have there plates and memories, and it opens up the front plaza.

It sounds like a good compromise, there is plenty of open space throughout FW to place them. I wouldn't put them on the same plane as how the wand and the hat have dramatically altered the appearance of the parks.

 

[VintageDisFan]

To answer the comment regarding refurbishing the plates...

I just checked my contract. The guarantee only guarantees that the plate will be there. It doesn't mention anything about guaranteeing the condition of the plate. As a matter of fact, it says that the sponsor may not request maintenance on the plate and that they "shall have no control over the placement, appearance, or maintenance of" the plate.

In other words, if you sponsored one, you paid your fee to have the thing engraved one time on a metal plate and placed on the monolith. After that, there were no services guaranteed or implied.

Interesting...but it makes sense for...what was it? $35?

 

[flavious27]

To answer the comment regarding refurbishing the plates...

I just checked my contract. The guarantee only guarantees that the plate will be there. It doesn't mention anything about guaranteeing the condition of the plate. As a matter of fact, it says that the sponsor may not request maintenance on the plate and that they "shall have no control over the placement, appearance, or maintenance of" the plate.

In other words, if you sponsored one, you paid your fee to have the thing engraved one time on a metal plate and placed on the monolith. After that, there were no services guaranteed or implied.

Interesting...but it makes sense for...what was it? $35?

So when the first sponsorships start to end in 9 years most of the plates will be bare. somehow that is counter to leaving a legacy for the next generation to see.

 

[s8film40]

To answer the comment regarding refurbishing the plates...

I just checked my contract. The guarantee only guarantees that the plate will be there. It doesn't mention anything about guaranteeing the condition of the plate. As a matter of fact, it says that the sponsor may not request maintenance on the plate and that they "shall have no control over the placement, appearance, or maintenance of" the plate.

In other words, if you sponsored one, you paid your fee to have the thing engraved one time on a metal plate and placed on the monolith. After that, there were no services guaranteed or implied.

Interesting...but it makes sense for...what was it? $35?

That's interesting. From the conversations I had with the guy who repaired the bricks he said that if guests found one was damaged they could complain and have it repaired. I always assumed that this was part of the contract, could be that it was and Disney decided later to cover this in the Leave a Legacy contract, or they were simply doing this to be nice and appease guests who weren't happy.

So when the first sponsorships start to end in 9 years most of the plates will be bare. somehow that is counter to leaving a legacy for the next generation to see.

Like I said earlier this was the part I really disliked about the program, it was very deceptive in that way. They call it leave a legacy but the intention was never to have these there long term. If they had marketed it as a way to be a part of the millennium celebration then I think they would have set the right expectation.

 

[flavious27]

That's interesting. From the conversations I had with the guy who repaired the bricks he said that if guests found one was damaged they could complain and have it repaired. I always assumed that this was part of the contract, could be that it was and Disney decided later to cover this in the Leave a Legacy contract, or they were simply doing this to be nice and appease guests who weren't happy.



Like I said earlier this was the part I really disliked about the program, it was very deceptive in that way. They call it leave a legacy but the intention was never to have these there long term. If they had marketed it as a way to be a part of the millennium celebration then I think they would have set the right expectation.

Well in 17 years when the last sponsorships are up, I guess we will find out what will happen. I really think it will look bad for disney to have these slabs in the front of their 2nd gate that are getting worse without them trying to bring it up to disney standards. I doubt that you will be able to read most of the panels in the next 5 years, what are they going to do then?

 

[mp2bill]

I don't understand what the big problem is with these things. Either you stop to look at them, or you make your way into the park to start riding rides. I mean, what are they gonna do, put a ride in there?