What Rides and Shows Need Fastpass?

[KingStefan]

OK, here we go, yet another FP like it or hate it thread.

If properly implemented (right number of passes distributed for each time period - CMs allow the right ratio of guests (FP to Standby), etc.) then in the aggregate it does NOT make the Standby lines longer. Or shorter. But it has to be implemented properly, and requires constant tuning and CM training, which I believe does not always happen.

It's queueing theory implemented, and it works well most of the time. I was there in the 70s, when there was limited E-tickets, no FP, and smaller crowds, and the lines as I remember them were longer. On some days MUCH longer. Now, I don't have statistics (although if anyone does, I'd be interested to see them), so I can't say for sure.

I personally love the FP system. I really could not live without it.

 

[Boray]

I personally love the FP system. I really could not live without it.

Ditto! :sohappy:

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

All of them, too really annoy the numpties.

 

[CommandoDisney]

One factor is that it makes standby-lines go much more slowly.

ok, i can see how that may be true. ive never experienced that, because whenever the standby line is long, i always fast pass it!

 

[Matpez]

ok, so i was trying to avoid this, but now i feel compelled to ask... WHY do people not like fastpass?

In the 1st hour of the day, before the FP lines open, get in line for Space Mountain or Peter Pan. You will see a MAJOR difference. Without the FP line, the attraction loads as it was intended and the queue continues to move.

Thats why so many don't like it.
:wave:

 

[KingStefan]

In the 1st hour of the day, before the FP lines open, get in line for Space Mountain or Peter Pan. You will see a MAJOR difference. Without the FP line, the attraction loads as it was intended and the queue continues to move.

Thats why so many don't like it.
:wave:

Come on! There are no lines the first hour of the day, because there are few visitors in the parks yet. The length of the line the first hour of the day has absolutely nothing to do with the lack of FP!

 

[Matpez]

The point is not that the park is empty, it is that the fastpass queue is not open yet.

The point is, watch as many many visitors queue for Peter Pan and the line keeps moving and moving like it was intended.

Just to clarify, I take full advantage of the fastpass system, but the reason some don't like it is because of an example like this.

 

[KingStefan]

Look, I've been through this all before. Someday, I'll write a short paper on it, but I just don't have time now. However, it seems like people who believe that FP makes Standby lines longer just plain won't be convinced. So it probably wouldn't matter. So for now, I'll just put forth a small argument here.

If you look as SWSA lines, the first two hours of the day, many, many visitors queue for it and the line keeps moving and moving like it was intended to. Then, after that the line gets longer and longer and so do the wait times. It doesn't have FP.

Maybe PP's FP is making SWSA lines longer? Not likely! :lol: It's probably because more people are queueing up.

Look, say PP's theoretical hourly capacity (THC) is 3000 (I have no idea what it is, I just picked a number). So maybe the practical capacity is 2000. Forget about FP for the time being. When the park opens, there is nobody on line. So of course the wait time is 0.

Now, most people DO NOT show up at the parks first thing in the morning. That is why many of us go for the rope drop, because we want to beat the crowds. But let's just ignore that for a minute, and say that people are queueing at a constant rate of 2800 per hour.

After 15 minutes, the wait time will be 6 minutes, after 30 minutes, the wait time will be 12 minutes, after one hour, it will be 24 minutes. So of course the line moves and moves.

After two hours the wait time will be 48 minutes. This happens whether you have FP or not.

 

[WDWTrojan]

Fastpass is great with top attractions during peak seasons ONLY. Otherwise it sucks. Clogs walkways, makes the stand-by wait far longer and keeps other attractions way busier.

The reason for the creation of Fastpass was to keep people out in the parks shopping and eating. Allowing guests to skip the line was simply a nice marketing bonus.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Fastpass is great with top attractions during peak seasons ONLY. Otherwise it sucks. Clogs walkways, makes the stand-by wait far longer and keeps other attractions way busier.

The reason for the creation of Fastpass was to keep people out in the parks shopping and eating. Allowing guests to skip the line was simply a nice marketing bonus.

Distributes guests wider, surely.

or keeps tadgers occupied for longer. :shrug:

 

[figmentmom]

Pirates. :wave:

 

[KingStefan]

The point is not that the park is empty, it is that the fastpass queue is not open yet...

I do understand your point, however, that the standby line moves more slowly when FP line is open. And that that is the reason some people don't like FP. However, it doesn't mean that people wait longer necessarily. This is what some people don't understand.

 

[tdonald]

Wow! Pirates has the most votes!

I've never waited more than twenty minutes for it, even on Christmas Day. It loads SO fast.


(You didn't here this from me, but for some reason at least 90% of the time at Pirates, the queue on the right is shorter than the left!) :lookaroun