What is the maximum you would pay for Lightning Plus?

[mickEblu]

As a Dream key holder who lives 25 mins from the park, I can just come back and ride any ride on another day if it has a long line. I have zero use to buy Genie+ or ILL selections. It only makes sense to those who either have keys but only use them every once in awhile, or for people using regular ticket admission. The only way I’d spend money on Genie+ is if they made it a singular price add-on to the key (like MaxPass was for that short period of time). Even then I hope they don’t do that simply because it makes standby atrocious for everyone.

This makes sense. I’d probably feel the same way. It usually takes us an hour twenty minutes average to get to the parks and we have two young ones with us. We need all the convenience we can get to make the effort/ investment feel worth it. With that said we re still buying it only half the time and we only go every 3-4 weeks on average. We also really have no need to get it unless another couple comes with us for child Switch. The only Genie + rides my kids can or want to go on are Haunted Mansion, Small World, Star Tours and Smugglers Run and you don’t really need Genie + for those 4 especially if you are either going to the parks early or staying late.

I acknowledge that the system sucks though. We re waiting fastpass level wait times but we re paying for it. There’s nothing Lightning about it.

 

[No Name]

Frankly the prices need to be higher. MUCH higher.

Other parks tend to START their prices for similar programs at around $100 a person/day. Frankly a place like Disneyland could command much higher. It's not as nice sounding as $20 (or free), but the number of people who would use it would go down significantly-making the standby lines move much less glacially than they are apparently moving right now.

Well those programs aren’t really similar because you can walk up and enter the quick line as often as you want, you don’t have to have reserved times, and they don’t charge additional fees for a couple of rides in the park. Genie+ is nowhere near the value of something like Express Pass and likewise it’s nowhere near the price.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Well those programs aren’t really similar because you can walk up and enter the quick line as often as you want, you don’t have to have reserved times, and they don’t charge additional fees for a couple of rides in the park. Genie+ is nowhere near the value of something like Express Pass and likewise it’s nowhere near the price.

They would be better served by pivoting to that model rather than the current "pay $20 and maybe you'll get to do everything you want more easily" they currently have.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

They would be better served by pivoting to that model rather than the current "pay $20 and maybe you'll get to do everything you want more easily" they currently have.

This is my biggest complaint with LL, I didn’t mind standing in a FP line because it was free, now that they expect me to pay extra for that same service my expectations are much higher.

If they want us to pay for a premium service it should feel like a premium service. If that means raising the price to $50 or $100 I’m fine with that, at least it’ll be a premium service. So many people are using it at the current price it’s not a premium service, you’re basically paying extra to stand in the normal standby line, it only looks better because the new standby lines are infinitely worse than they used to be because of LL.

LL hasn’t made the experience better, it’s made it worse for everyone.

 

[mickEblu]

This is my biggest complaint with LL, I didn’t mind standing in a FP line because it was free, now that they expect me to pay extra for that same service my expectations are much higher.

If they want us to pay for a premium service it should feel like a premium service. If that means raising the price to $50 or $100 I’m fine with that, at least it’ll be a premium service. So many people are using it at the current price it’s not a premium service, you’re basically paying extra to stand in the normal standby line, it only looks better because the new standby lines are infinitely worse than they used to be because of LL.

LL hasn’t made the experience better, it’s made it worse for everyone.

The whole thing is annoying because not only do you have to manage return times/ forecast availability all day you also have to pray that LL wait times won’t be too long. Just takes up too much head space. My solution is a “loose Genie +” day. The last time we bought Genie + we only used it on 6 rides and we were ok with that. 4 of them were instant return times - IASW, Incredicoaster, Star Tours and Buzz so not a lot of mental activity there. The other two were Smugglers Run and Guardians.

 

[No Name]

They would be better served by pivoting to that model rather than the current "pay $20 and maybe you'll get to do everything you want more easily" they currently have.

The lower starting point and greater flexibility do have their upsides, but the problem is the whole thing is too transactional. If you buy Express Pass, you pay the high price, stop thinking about it, and just freely enter the shorter lines. With Genie+ not only is it confusing, but you have to be making reservations and deciding whether to pay even more money for Individual Lightning Lane.

But Paris’s system (where basically everything is an individual lightning lane) is the absolute worst. I’m so glad that’s not the case here.

 

[Phroobar]

But Paris’s system (where basically everything is an individual lightning lane) is the absolute worst. I’m so glad that’s not the case here.

Not yet.

 

[mickEblu]

The lower starting point and greater flexibility do have their upsides, but the problem is the whole thing is too transactional. If you buy Express Pass, you pay the high price, stop thinking about it, and just freely enter the shorter lines. With Genie+ not only is it confusing, but you have to be making reservations and deciding whether to pay even more money for Individual Lightning Lane.

But Paris’s system (where basically everything is an individual lightning lane) is the absolute worst. I’m so glad that’s not the case here.

In theory isn’t Paris’ system better than Genie +? I’d imagine standby lines would be be shorter. Unless all the attractions are priced so cheap that it’s the norm and becomes the de facto standby line.

 

[No Name]

In theory isn’t Paris’ system better than Genie +? I’d imagine standby lines would be be shorter. Unless all the attractions are priced so cheap that it’s the norm and becomes the de facto standby line.

Yeah that’s a good point and I’d think it would make likes shorter, but I’ve checked the wait time data on thrill-data.com and the average wait times really didn’t and haven’t gone down at all. I don’t get why. Maybe these suckers are buying it? I don’t know. I haven’t been there which doesn’t help.

I really just dislike it because it wants guests to constantly decide between waiting or paying which just doesn’t seem enjoyable at all.

 

[OG Runner]

I honestly hated paying the extra money for Lightning Lane given I used to be able to get a free Fast Pass, but I do not like to
wait in line for 3 hours either and purchased LL twice for Flight of Passage on my trip in January.