Originally posted by Hurricane
But there are some things that just shouldn't be F-ed with, Toad was one, the WEDway people move is another, apart from the De-Walt-ing (my own creation, taking Walt and his genius out of the park and replacing it with Eisners Chicago School Economics) the new people mover just doesn't have the same memorizability of the old wedway. Dreamflight was great, you could always walk on and sit down in the cool, it wasn't a great ride but I think it was pretty decent (I'm sooooooooo glad they kept those projection screens that play the immersion movies)
Why can't old attractions be slightly revamped, remarketed and kept open if only on a scaled back basis (ie COP) so people can share memories with their children and friends, I would love to take my kids on WOM, but I will never be able to do that. When new E tickets are needed just build them somewhere else, theres plenty of space at EPCOT MGM and Animal Kingdom, MK has some openings also (sky ride stations, 20k leagues,
wow long post, thanks for listening
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't TTA almost exactly the same as was the WED-Way People mover? I mean, all they did was change the narration to sort of mimic what you hear on the WDW railroad and change only one of the scenes that you pass when going through the buildings. Oh, I guess you could also count the retro support added around the structures holding it up in the center parts of tomorrowland but those were more changes to the area than to this ride itself. I mean, the cars are exactly the same and the track hasn't been changed and the cars and the track are about all there are to this ride.
As for COP, I want it to stay as much as anybody else but let's face it, we're lucky it didn't close down with everything else that did from the original Tomorrow Land. I know that some will probably want to argue this with me but COP is very much out of place from it's surroundings. All of the other attractions in tomorrowland (In all of MK, in fact) are strictly entertainment based today. All of the rest of Tomorrowland conforms to a retro-future that never was but COP is a relic from Tomorrowland 1.0 which was made obsolete by the opening of Epcot. Let me stress again that I don't want to see this attraction leave but I sort of agree with Disney that it would be a logical move when they are ready to put in something new. The ride features old, unconvincing animatronics and at this point, unless they start chopping off the first few decades of the 20th century, they are going to have a light-year jump between the last second to last scene looking back and the final scene of the near future. I don't see any company thinking logically that would invest the money in new animatronics and speaker systems and such for an attraction that doesn't draw crowds even when it's open on a regular schedules. For those of us that really enjoyed it, it's sad but it's reality. Today's audience who has never been to WDW before does Alien Encounter and then goes on that one and sees an outdated attraction in the part of MK that is supposed to look the most modern. They could possibly wrap it on some sort of new story on the way in and keep it going for a few years longer but a lot of people in the "general public" would probably view that as Disney being cheap and trying to get more mileage out of a tired old attraction...
Now, Dream flight/If You Had Wings is another story... I don't mean to make light of anyone's warm memories of this retired attraction but what was that ride doing in Tomorrowland to begin with? It was a ride that promoted airline travel (with a specific carrier, I might add) It was 100% commercial. Many people were flying down to get to WDW when that ride opened. There wasn't anything particularly futuristic (retro or otherwise) about it from day one. I'm sure a lot of people were happy to see them replace it with a 100% Disney attraction. I know everyone thought it was a nice ride to cool down on and get away from the bustle of the parks but lets face it. If it's somewhere you can go to get away from crowds, that's not saying a lot for the attraction. I sort of miss it too but it's time had come...
I liked Horizons and WOM also but aside from a few unique elements (like the ride vehicles and the imax screens in Horizons) they were SSE with different themes... As a matter of fact, as a little kid, I remember getting the elements of SSE and WOM confused because they were so much alike. My best guess would be that that has a lot to do with the reason these rides have been/are being replaced so completely. Someone on here talked about TT being unimaginative compared to WOM... Aside from the theme of travel and the shape of the building, WOM was the twin of SSE. TT is actually a much more original ride that seems to be attracting a LOT more guest than WOM did in its final years of life as a walk-on attraction (like Horizons).... I myself was really upset with the way they changed JII but it was more because replacement was an obviously cheap, downgrade replacement like what happened with Kitchen Cabaret. I have my fingers crossed the the recent changes to JIYI will make the ride at least worth the time.. Nobody can deny that TT and MS are both enormous E ticket project and TT has been wildly popular probably well beyond managements expectations. I remember going for the soft opening of TT and they had well dressed people with Disney tags on asking people what they thought of the ride as they were leaving the unloading platform. The responses were all very positive and these cast members had smiles on their faces stretching from ear to ear...
I understand where you are all coming from. When I was a kid, I loved spending time in Communicore East & West and I can't even tell you the last time I darkened the automatic doors of Innoventions since their most recent change but I don't think for a minute that the Epcot experience would be better with the old attraction in place. Kids today get more out of their home computer than they would those two big buildings...
I think it's ok to say that we miss the old attractions and to gripe about how we don't like the new ones but to say they should have kept them... That's not realistic. They are in the business of catering to the majority and the majority of the visitors to WDW don't visit with the same feelings of sentiment that many of us from here do. It's just reality. Do we have to like it? No... but if we don't accept it, it's only going to detract from future visits by ourselves and by those that go with us that have to listen to all of us talk about how much better things used to be. Just something to think about, anyway
ok just a silly idea ..but how bout they take everything and start a whole new park ... a type of history of Disney theme parks Park .. yeah i know ..every one young wants the fastest, and the most modern thing there is