What else would you like to see added to HKDL within the confines of the current park

[Supersnow84]

So let’s ignore the second gate and downtown Disney (and the fourth hotel zone but I don’t think that’ll get used for a while)

What would you like to see added to the current resort footprint using the available expansion pads, rethemes of existing attractions are fine but everything has to make sense within the design of the park

 

[616.1314]

• Main Street: both (1) day- and (2) night-time parades shall return
• Tomorrowland: give us back (3) Stitch Encounter and the classical version of (4) Space Mountain
• Fantasyland: is it possible to turn Clopin's into (5) Peter Pan's Flight? (given there will be a new restaurant in Arendelle)
• Adventureland: the land that really needs a solid ride, replace Riverview with (6) Indiana Jones
• Toy Story Land: expand with the pad between itself and Arendelle, add (7) TSMM and (8) Alien Saucers

 

[Supersnow84]

Would you replace the jungle cruise, I think the three language one is really unique, I would expand grizzly to put a ride like that on rather than change Adventureland (which I’d think is HK’s one “complete land”)

I’m not sure on the clopin’s but it would be a tight squeeze if so

Pretty much agree with the rest though I’m indifferent to different version of space TBH

 

[MysticMDisney]

I would personally love to see another dark ride in Fantasyland. Maybe possibly themed to Tangled and it can take up the area where Clopin’s or Fantasy Gardens is right now.

The return of original Space Mountain would be nice as well. Then maybe the big plot of land left by the demolition of Autopia could be used as a sort of Star Wars mini land. Marvel rides don’t really fit in a castle park for me but a Star Wars land could! Plus hyperspace mountain is right beside it so if they never bring back OG Space, then Star Wars could be a possibility.

I’d love for them to actually do the formerly planned Pirates land in the plot next to Grizzly Gulch. That would be epic!

 

[marni1971]

Pragmatically, in lieu of an original theme the Avengers E (already designed), Peter Pans Flight to replace Philharmagic (already designed apparently) and an original indoor pirates style adventure flume attraction east of Grizzly (concepts exist)

Shockingly I think Hyperspace Mountain works as - is.

 

[Supersnow84]

I would personally love to see another dark ride in Fantasyland. Maybe possibly themed to Tangled and it can take up the area where Clopin’s or Fantasy Gardens is right now.

The return of original Space Mountain would be nice as well. Then maybe the big plot of land left by the demolition of Autopia could be used as a sort of Star Wars mini land. Marvel rides don’t really fit in a castle park for me but a Star Wars land could! Plus hyperspace mountain is right beside it so if they never bring back OG Space, then Star Wars could be a possibility.

I’d love for them to actually do the formerly planned Pirates land in the plot next to Grizzly Gulch. That would be epic!

Is there any plans available or even artwork of the grizzly expansion, I’ve only heard rumours

I think clopins is a stretch but fantasy gardens is in an awkward spot, it would be tight regardless, and as for autopia we will have to wait another week to see if they say anything about quinjet

 

[marni1971]

Is there any plans available or even artwork of the grizzly expansion, I’ve only heard rumours

 

[Supersnow84]

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Thanks for that, grizzly east is probably the parks largest remaining expansion pad because they can’t get rid of the area west of small world

That area would have been absolutely stunning, would really increase the impact of grizzly which right now like mystic point leans too heavily on it’s one ride

 

[616.1314]

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The original Pirate Cove shall include one Haunted Mansion-style dark ride and another Splash Mountain-type flume ride
Not sure if the plot of land next to Grizzly is big enough to hold two E-ticket attractions

 

[marni1971]

The original Pirate Cove shall include one Haunted Mansion-style dark ride and another Splash Mountain-type flume ride
Not sure if the plot of land next to Grizzly is big enough to hold two E-ticket attractions

I doubt it; but this was instead of Grizzly (and the dark ride would have made Mystic redundant)

 

[DLR92]

That space between Arendelle and Toy Story should dedicate to Indiana Jones land. Extension of Adventureland.

I would love to see another dark ride of Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland. Mr. Toad Wild Ride is absent.

 

[Supersnow84]

That space between Arendelle and Toy Story should dedicate to Indiana Jones land. Extension of Adventureland.

I would love to see another dark ride of Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland. Mr. Toad Wild Ride is absent.

That pad is definitely not big enough for another sub land, at best you might get one more attraction on one of the 2 lands that border the pad (I always suggested midway mania)

The east grizzly pad is really the only large pad they have left in the current gate besides whatever they end up doing with autopia if that’s still earmarked for quinjet

 

[Supersnow84]

I doubt it; but this was instead of Grizzly (and the dark ride would have made Mystic redundant)

I know that the reason it was mystic over HM was because of Chinese customs but now that MM has been a smash hit I don’t think another dark ride in east grizzly in the same ballpark would be treading on each others shoes, especially since right now MM is the parks one world wide regarded attraction because Everest and Paris big thunder kinda overshadow grizzly

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

The original Pirate Cove shall include one Haunted Mansion-style dark ride and another Splash Mountain-type flume ride
Not sure if the plot of land next to Grizzly is big enough to hold two E-ticket attractions

I doubt it; but this was instead of Grizzly (and the dark ride would have made Mystic redundant)

Well THAT is fascinating - I had heard about the Pirate Flume but I'm not sure if I'd heard about a Pirate-y Haunted Mansion. I recall vague rumors from 2006 of an Adventureland-based Haunted Mansion in consideration for Hong Kong, but never heard mention of a connection to the proposed Pirate area.

I'd love to hear more about that, if there's any more to hear! A Haunted Mansion that goes all-in on its ties to Pirates sounds like a deeply interesting project.


EDITED To Add: If memory serves, this piece of concept art was linked to the Hong Kong Pirate Flume:

 

[Supersnow84]

They would have to remove all supernatural elements to make HM work, it’s why they went with mystic manor in the first place

They BIG might have been able to pass a Paris style haunted mansion where the ghosts are painted in a “negative” light so to speak but the OG HM wouldn’t pass in Hong Kong

I think with FEA and maybe one more fantasyland we would be good on dark rides for the moment, maybe the second ride could be a flat ride, WOSS was originally going to be a Luigi clone, I don’t know if that ride tech is popular but maybe something like that, or we a journey to the centre of the earth

That land would become the parks headliner regardless

 

[DLR92]

TBH they should really dismantle Toy Story Land. It the weakest land that doesn’t tie well. It just a filler land.

 

[Supersnow84]

I always found it strange that they announced a three land expansion, 2 fantastic designed original lands with great rides and a filler kids land

Wasn’t the biggest original complaint outside of its size the fact that too many of the clones were overly kid oriented

Though I don’t think the park can justify ripping a entire land down right now

 

[616.1314]

I always found it strange that they announced a three land expansion, 2 fantastic designed original lands with great rides and a filler kids land

Wasn’t the biggest original complaint outside of its size the fact that too many of the clones were overly kid oriented

Though I don’t think the park can justify ripping a entire land down right now

The initial proposal was Pirate Cove and Glacier Bay. Both got rejected by the HK government and so Disney came up with the three lands instead. (see the attached video below).

While TSL appears "weak" to some overseas Disney fans, it still has its reasons to stand in HK Disneyland. HKDL lacks both quantity and quality in terms of attractions, so while the rides in TSL are just (at most) "C-tickets", they can still boost the number by 3! Also, HKDL's major local rival Ocean Park is famous for its thrill rides, two of TSL attractions (namely RC Racer and Toy Soldier Parachute Drop) allows HKDL to catch up a bit in this aspect. Not to mention TS is a famous franchise in the city.

 

[Supersnow84]

The initial proposal was Pirate Cove and Glacier Bay. Both got rejected by the HK government and so Disney came up with the three lands instead. (see the attached video below).

While TSL appears "weak" to some overseas Disney fans, it still has its reasons to stand in HK Disneyland. HKDL lacks both quantity and quality in terms of attractions, so while the rides in TSL are just (at most) "C-tickets", they can still boost the number by 3! Also, HKDL's major local rival Ocean Park is famous for its thrill rides, two of TSL attractions (namely RC Racer and Toy Soldier Parachute Drop) allows HKDL to catch up a bit in this aspect. Not to mention TS is a famous franchise in the city.

Interesting I didn’t know they had a whole plan in the works that was that complete before being rejected

As for TSL I just wish it was a little better, of the 4 TSL’s it’s probably the worst (though I mean HK, Paris and Shanghai are all pretty equally bad) and it has a pad right next to it that they could have used for pretty cheap given the TSL theming is relatively cheap anyway

Maybe a better point would be that the land is underwhelming

 

[DLR92]

HK government did themselves a disfavor. They should have approved Glacier Bay. It likely we will never see another non-IP based attractions/ land too.