What does California have to do with WDW? Why can't Disney film a new film for WDW?

[WDWCPbrandon]

IMO, "Soarin' over California" seems like an E-Ticket bird dropping that will have to mold the Land. "Soarin' over the LAND" would show a lot more care for Epcot's essence. . .

But that's my opinion.

I totally agree with this one. I was thinking "Soarin' over the LAND" would be better too and it would showcase the many landscapes of America.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I just hope they don't show "Soarin' over Iowa", or "Soarin' over Nebraska". You'd be asleep before the end of the ride. :lol:

(No offense to any Iowans or Nebraskans. I've been thru both states, just not a whole lot to look at, IMO.)

If the idea by naming the attration "Soarin'" is to allow flexibility in the show, I'm all for it. If it's just a way to not "clone" the DL attraction.... :hurl: :hurl: :hurl:

 

[disneydisney]

The film doesn't state it is California and doesn't promote CA as being better than elsewhere. CA is a good example of diverse landscapes as you will see in the film. If they want to showcase different land environments then showing California is a good example. There are deserts, mountains, rivers, cities, harbors, beaches, farms, etc. You wouldn't know it was California unless you recognized the cities or mountains or beaches and of course Disneyland at the end. Remember to keep smelling during the ride. Just enjoy the film and enjoy the great attraction. I know you will like it once you see it.

You took the words right out of my mouth. I've be to DCA and Soarin' over California and most things in that ride you could never ever tell it was in California. You just think it was somewhere in the world. Even tho there are a few reconizable landmarks. Most reconizable landmarks in America are in California from the Golden Gate Bridge to the Hollywood Sign. Also, the Disneyland at the end is at night. I'm sure some of people will mistaken it for the Magic Kingdom because it is at night and the other will know it Disneyland because they know all about Disney and knew it was going to be that way.

You gotta take it for what it is, yes I would like them to film the ending over Epcot and/or the WDW Resort or whatever but i'm just thankful we are getting something oppose to nothing. :wave:

 

[Jekyll Baker]

Soarin' over California isn't a bad idea to open up with, I agree, just hope that it evolves to a wider scope. I agree with nettanyahoo that CA has the geographic diversity to make the ride interesting, but so would an equal land mass lying on the East coast (we just don't have deserts over here). And there's propably just as many recognizable landmarks too. And how could you get a more diverse geopgraphy than the entire USA (including Alaska and Hawaii)?

But why stop there. Why can't it become Soarin' over the Earth (Jon_in_NC touched on it)? Imagine soaring over the snowfields of Antarctica, the pyramids of Egypt, over the Himalayas, all the landmarks of Europe, etc, etc. This would actually help tie together FutureWorld with World Showcase, even ending the film flying over SSE then over or through the pyrotechnics of IllumiNations.

 

[SpenceMan01]

So there's money left over to build the huge gift shop we all expect! :lol:

Yep, gotta have the gift shop so they can sell many California themed items. "Hey, I went to WDW in Florida and I got you this awesome CALIFORNIA t-shirt!" :hammer:

Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to Soarin'. I haven't been on SOC, and I am sure it's going to make a great attraction at EPCOT. Like others have said, I am sure normal people won't even give it a second thought. (We just have to be difficult Disney Addicts )

 

[Timekeeper]

Please Be Specific

I would prefer a more geographically-specific attraction, such as:

"Soarin' Over San Fernando Valley"

:lol:

Timekeeper

 

[Scooter]

How about Soarin over DISNEY WORLD?

I would LOVE to have the feeling of swooping down Main Street towards the castle.
You could swoop down in Animal Kingdom towards the Tigers and get a little thrill.
I have always wanted to view WDW from a helicopter and this would present a tremendous oportunity to do just that.
The possiblilites are endless.

Imagine the feeling of swooping down on the water parks and feeling like you could almost drag your feet in the water in Typhoon Lagoon.

Fly around Bay lake and get an excellant view of all three Monorail resorts.
Fly over the Race track during the Richard Petty driving experiance.

I think I'm ON to something here. :lol:

 

[disneydummy125]

I, as a Floridian, could care less about what amounts to a travelogue for California. Yes, I'm sure it's a great film. Yes, I'm sure it's a great ride. But why give stroke to a state who's people are the biggest egomaniacs in the country (anyone who disputes it, take a trip to Hollywood sometime)? Hey! How about this (if Florida is boring, as some people appear to believe)? How about Soarin' over America, where you get to fly over, around and through geographic high points of our country, not one agrandized state with a film from a ride at a park that was meant to showcase it's host state.

Just my opinion, but...

I'm gonna have to disagree with you here. I am a Floridian, always have been and always will be, but I'm looking forward to Soarin'. The reason that this film is about California is because the park is called Disney's California Adventure, not Disney's America Adventure(not yet at least :lol: ). I mean, yes Florida is beautiful, but there isn't as much of a variety as there is in California. Plus, I know plenty of non-egomaniacs in California.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I felt the urge to state my opinion.

 

[cherrynegra]

Not sure if this has been posted, so I apologize if it has. But I think it would be great if they had a 'Soarin' film with the natural wonders of each of the nations represented in world showcase. I know that Soarin' won't be situated within WS, but I think its proximity would definitely warrant a film focussing on the natural wonders of the world.

 

[TinkerBell9988]

IMO, "Soarin' over California" seems like an E-Ticket bird dropping that will have to mold the Land. "Soarin' over the LAND" would show a lot more care for Epcot's essence. . .

But that's my opinion.

I agree 110%. I'm looking forward to the attraction anyway, but the title "Soarin' Over the Land" seems more fitting to the Land to me... :animwink:

 

[Bairstow]

Here are my five reasons why:

1. It's cheaper.
2. Disney knows that showing the California film now will be the only way most people who go to WDW will ever see the film. It's pretty clear that the film will eventually be replaced by a more appropriate, localized film because given the size and cost of the theatre, this attraction isn't going anywhere for a long, long, time. Soarin' is a great attraction with excellent cinematography and a wonderful score by the recently deceased film composer Jerry Goldsmith. It's worth seeing, and anyone who has seen it has enjoyed it, and because Disney knows that most people in America who visit their parks only visit one of their parks or the other, showing this film in Florida is going to be the only way that the East Coast is going to experience it. Sure, you might suggest that the California film could be installed after the localized Florida is shown, but that would be at least 5 years from now, and by then the California film would be horribly dated. If Disney is going to show their eastern park-going constituency how great a film this is, now is the time to do it.
3. It's cheaper.
4. Disney knows that this film is successful. They've already spent an embarassingly large amount of money to build the theatre and attraction building, and if there's one thing the company doesn't like it's an unneeded risk. Cloned attractions are safe, and by showing a film and format that they know worked once before garuntees that there's not going to be a negative response when this one opens. If, or rather when the Florida version of the film is introduced, it can draw a negative response without the executives who authorized the construction of the Florida theatre being held acountable for the entire project failing. This way they're gambling with $5 million and have $45 million in the bank, rather than putting everything on the table.
5. It's cheaper.

 

[thedisneyfan]

To all who say that Florida isn't exciting and doesn't have much to offer, then I guess that YOUR IMAGINATION IS AS SMALL AS FLORIDA IS LARGE!!!

Let's see what Soarin' over Florida would have to offer:

1. Great fly overs of Orange, Lemon, Grapefruit and other citrus groves as far as the eye can see!

2. Great beaches with more variety than California. You have the Atlantic beaches for sure, but you also have the Gulf coast beaches, and the beaches and crystal blue waters in the Keys along with the coral reefs there!

3. The Keys and all of the great islands that are a part of Florida!

4. And the Everglades, with all of the birds, alligators and other wildlife. I guess you couldn't imagine speeding over the everglades and tall grass just like in an air boat? Oh, I forgot that this isn't supposed to be some kind of air ride.

5. The vast fields of vegetables and food being grown. Good thing that this attraction isn't being placed in the Land pavillion.

6. The first and oldest colonial site in America: St. Augustine! Old fortifications and buildings (just like in the Dry Totugas).

7. The art deco style in South Beach, Miami. Not to mention all of the modern cities in Florida.

8. The vast Southern Pine forrests.

9. Oh yeah, Cape Canaveral and NASA and the lift-off views from the Space Shuttle looking over the entire Floridian Peninsula. I just can't see how that would be cool. At least this attraction isn't being placed in a theme park that has some sort of space and NASA tie-in.

10. And last but not least, the vastness of Walt Disney World! The theme parks and the resorts. Flying through the massive WDW entrance to start the end of the ride with the tour of WDW and then end the ride flying past the exit sign.

What this all means is that Florida INDEED provides a great deal of possibilities for such an attraction. Don't limit your imagination. I've never experienced the DCA version so this is not a knock against it, just that a Florida version could be exciting in its own right. I also like the idea of a total USA version that encompasses coast to coast plus Hawaii and Alaska. The possibilities are endless with such a version not to mention a global version. Just remember, imagination is only limited by the permission of our vision!

 

[General Grizz]

Here are my five reasons why:

1. It's cheaper.
2. Disney knows that showing the California film now will be the only way most people who go to WDW will ever see the film. It's pretty clear that the film will eventually be replaced by a more appropriate, localized film because given the size and cost of the theatre, this attraction isn't going anywhere for a long, long, time. Soarin' is a great attraction with excellent cinematography and a wonderful score by the recently deceased film composer Jerry Goldsmith. It's worth seeing, and anyone who has seen it has enjoyed it, and because Disney knows that most people in America who visit their parks only visit one of their parks or the other, showing this film in Florida is going to be the only way that the East Coast is going to experience it. Sure, you might suggest that the California film could be installed after the localized Florida is shown, but that would be at least 5 years from now, and by then the California film would be horribly dated. If Disney is going to show their eastern park-going constituency how great a film this is, now is the time to do it.
3. It's cheaper.
4. Disney knows that this film is successful. They've already spent an embarassingly large amount of money to build the theatre and attraction building, and if there's one thing the company doesn't like it's an unneeded risk. Cloned attractions are safe, and by showing a film and format that they know worked once before garuntees that there's not going to be a negative response when this one opens. If, or rather when the Florida version of the film is introduced, it can draw a negative response without the executives who authorized the construction of the Florida theatre being held acountable for the entire project failing. This way they're gambling with $5 million and have $45 million in the bank, rather than putting everything on the table.
5. It's cheaper.

You forgot one.

It's cheaper.

 

[Bairstow]

To all who say that Florida isn't exciting and doesn't have much to offer, then I guess that YOUR IMAGINATION IS AS SMALL AS FLORIDA IS LARGE!!!

I don't mean to be disagreeable, but your state is about as flat as a pancake my friend. I won't argue that Florida isn't a beautiful state, because it is, but Florida's beauty, as you pointed out, is mostly in things that you have to get up to, or into, to enjoy. It would be disrespectful, not to mention impossible, to convey the beauty of St. Augustine with a fly-by. The format of this screen and the nature of the motion element requires fly-bys, and speaking from personal experience, Florida isn't the most interesting state to fly over. After all, the only three mountains in the state are... well we don't need to mention them. I'm not knocking your state, I just don't think a film of areal photography based around on Florida would work, or do the state justice. Now Tennessee on the other hand...

 

[thedisneyfan]

I don't mean to be disagreeable, but your state is about as flat as a pancake my friend. I'm not knocking your state, I just don't think a film of areal photography based around on Florida would work, or do the state justice. Now Tennessee on the other hand...

Uh, I'm from Pennsylvania. :wave:

Oh and I forgot,

11. Hurricanes and Tropical Storms. Something that you don't get in California. The possibilities with this are endless as well. These ideas just keep popping into my mind. I'm sure there are many more!

 

[Bairstow]

Uh, I'm from Pennsylvania. :wave:

Whoops. We know what assuming does.
If you can find a pilot willing to fly into a hurricane with a nine million dollar IMAX camera strapped to his helicopter I'll be the first in line to watch.

 

[disneydummy125]

11. Hurricanes and Tropical Storms. Something that you don't get in California. The possibilities with this are endless as well. These ideas just keep popping into my mind. I'm sure there are many more!

Maybe if they redid the California film they can put an earthquake in it.

 

[Erika]

Whoops. We know what assuming does.
If you can find a pilot willing to fly into a hurricane with a nine million dollar IMAX camera strapped to his helicopter I'll be the first in line to watch.

:lol: I'll be right behind you.

2. Great beaches with more variety than California. You have the Atlantic beaches for sure, but you also have the Gulf coast beaches, and the beaches and crystal blue waters in the Keys along with the coral reefs there!

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but aren't the Floridian beaches pretty much flat & sandy? I don't mean that in a bad way, because they ARE beautiful, but the West Coast seems to have so much more variety, especially with the Palisades (I've not seen the movie, so I'm not sure they are featured).

 

[Marijil]

I understand the complaint.....California is very specific as it should be in a park located in California and celebrating its essence.

Soaring over the land is a great idea....but should be encompassed in the Land Pavillion when u think about it...and it sure would make the boat ride pale in comparison

Soaring over Florida....i think the most interesting things to soar over in Fla would be WDW....and Shaquille O' Neal

How about soaring over Eisner's place....guard towers, attack dogs, Katzenburg target range...and Roy and Stan picketing outside the heavily patrolled gate

 

[AEfx]

I don't mean to be disagreeable, but your state is about as flat as a pancake my friend. I won't argue that Florida isn't a beautiful state, because it is, but Florida's beauty, as you pointed out, is mostly in things that you have to get up to, or into, to enjoy. It would be disrespectful, not to mention impossible, to convey the beauty of St. Augustine with a fly-by. The format of this screen and the nature of the motion element requires fly-bys, and speaking from personal experience, Florida isn't the most interesting state to fly over. After all, the only three mountains in the state are... well we don't need to mention them. I'm not knocking your state, I just don't think a film of areal photography based around on Florida would work, or do the state justice. Now Tennessee on the other hand...

Exactly.

Visually, it might be "pretty", but not have the impact that a ride like Soarin' is trying to have with the varied heights/landscapes. FL is a great place - just not conducive to this type of attraction.

That said, I love the idea of "Soarin over WDW", only because actually installing the film in a WDW park would be about the most blatant example post-modernity thing I can imagine; I could write a book (or a very long article, at least) about the act of going to a theme park to ride a mechanical device that simulates...going to the same theme park.

AEfx